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Here's a preview of the Prostitution framework coming in 0.8.1.

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In case that link above describes somewhat realistically the essential features of prostitution in Ikaanos, there is not much future in pimping IMHOP.
Criminally stealing a clip from MOR Wiki: " Founded by the adventurous second wave of settlers that landed on Raana's surface in 2230, over two and a half centuries ago, the Ikaanian metro area of today boasts almost 600,000 inhabitants and has a history that's rich in both tragedies and achievements "
Pimping a pitiful few slaves, max. 6, for that size of potential clientele is more a tragedy than an achievement.
Definitely not a business, more like a disgusting hobby to some slimy pervert criminal, perhaps. A very modest start to a crime lord career, methinks.
I am not holding my breath waiting for this addition - and yet I know I must let my MC try pimping in order to learn if I can tolerate that while waiting for those passive punks of Kymanto to finally wake up and start heaping wealth on my MC for all he's done for them.
Just my first thoughts, sorry.

 

[madchef]

In case that link above describes somewhat realistically the essential features of prostitution in Ikaanos, there is not much future in pimping IMHOP.
Criminally stealing a clip from MOR Wiki: " Founded by the adventurous second wave of settlers that landed on Raana's surface in 2230, over two and a half centuries ago, the Ikaanian metro area of today boasts almost 600,000 inhabitants and has a history that's rich in both tragedies and achievements "
Pimping a pitiful few slaves, max. 6, for that size of potential clientele is more a tragedy than an achievement.
Definitely not a business, more like a disgusting hobby to some slimy pervert criminal, perhaps. A very modest start to a crime lord career, methinks.
I am not holding my breath waiting for this addition - and yet I know I must let my MC try pimping in order to learn if I can tolerate that while waiting for those passive punks of Kymanto to finally wake up and start heaping wealth on my MC for all he's done for them.
Just my first thoughts, sorry.

A disgusting hobby, you say? More or less disgusting than living in a loop of waking up with a blowjob from a girl who calls you Daddy and judging by age, could as well be your daughter, then asking her questions implying she should always be a sex toy, then going to give lectures and return home to whip that same girl and then fuck her, just because you can?

Tolerate pimping? And how are you dealing with the fact that all other players of this game are constantly fucking 'your' paperdolls, most of which don't even have full sets of GCs?

And then you complain the number of available slaves is too little. I don't know... Have I missed that moment when mathematics became the kinky core of pornography?

 

[tsap]

A disgusting hobby, you say?

Yeah, I wrote that much, didn't I - so I guess you got my intention quite correct. Congratulations about that. Jumping to assumptions about my game style didn't go that well, however. The slaves in my game don't call MC 'Daddy' but Master and I do not return home to whip slaves. Those slaves in my game follow their Master on his little travels and return home in his company. You do what you do, I suppose, but that does not need to describe my gaming.

Tolerate pimping? And how are you dealing with the fact that all other players of this game are constantly fucking 'your' paperdolls, most of which don't even have full sets of GCs?

I am perfectly ok with all other players constantly fucking 'my' paperdolls, thanks for asking. Unfortunately you guessed wrong about the GCs. The slaves in my game do have full sets of those.

And then you complain the number of available slaves is too little. I don't know... Have I missed that moment when mathematics became the kinky core of pornography?

I wasn't actually complaining as much as stating a fact about the numeric relation between current maximum of player controlled slaves and the number of Ikaanos citicens. There is a chance to know what is much and what isn't, even without applying exact math or assuming it taking over pornography.

 

[madchef]

Yeah, I wrote that much, didn't I - so I guess you got my intention quite correct. Congratulations about that. Jumping to assumptions about my game style didn't go that well, however. The slaves in my game don't call MC 'Daddy' but Master and I do not return home to whip slaves. Those slaves in my game follow their Master on his little travels and return home in his company. You do what you do, I suppose, but that does not need to describe my gaming.

I am perfectly ok with all other players constantly fucking 'my' paperdolls, thanks for asking. Unfortunately you guessed wrong about the GCs. The slaves in my game do have full sets of those.


I wasn't actually complaining as much as stating a fact about the numeric relation between current maximum of player controlled slaves and the number of Ikaanos citicens. There is a chance to know what is much and what isn't, even without applying exact math or assuming it taking over pornography.

You know exactly what type of a porn gamer I assume you are: this odd harem-collector weirdly jelaous of his 'possessions' having sexual contacts with other in-game characters, while not really paying heed to other circumstances which make these fictional scenarios highly improbable, immoral and hurtful (slavery, corporal punishment, dubious consent, age difference, etc). The type of relationships you can have with your live-in females are sooner or later leaning towards Master/slave type. They're slaves or soon to be slaves... something you don't have a problem with, right? What you have a problem with is that you can (not necessarily must) have these slaves fuck other fictional men, is that correct? I bet you wouldn't have a problem with them having sex with other women. Am I right? The other, non-MC dick (not imaginary yours) is what makes you feel uncomfortable, let's be honest.

Your market analysis must be one of the silliest arguments I've seen here. It's as if you couldn't open a bakery in NYC because you can only bake and sell that many muffins and bagels in a city of more than 10 million hungry stomachs. Do you think that RL pimps operate armies of prostitutes proportionate in size to the number of locals? Economy 101: it's not a good business if your supply exceeds the demand. Which rarely happens, as human greed is bottomless, Mr. A-Mere-Six-Virtual-Slaves-I-Don't-Want-To-Share-With-Anyone.

 

[Konstantinus]

Somehow this discussion reminds of MGD where regular discussions about who of the waifus would be awesome to fuck with other players are unconcerning but every ember of pointing out, that some bosses with whom you have a thing still need to do their job and so technically get battlefucked from other random adventurers is killed immedeataly and the topic will be changed.

But to be more on topic, that is one of the interesting parts of this game, discussion if it is ethic to have slaves and on which level it starts to be not.

 

[GD-studios]

Pimping a pitiful few slaves, max. 6, for that size of potential clientele is more a tragedy than an achievement.

The household is growing, however. This is from Alpha 0.8.2 - with the introduction of random slaves:

 

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The household is growing, however. This is from Alpha 0.8.2 - with the introduction of random slaves:

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Good to know. Yet I was never one of those 'MOAR-players' - just to correct some assumptions recently attached on me.
In my latest game-efforts my MC has 2 slaves, no more, and his fix idea is to keep them safe, happy and healthy. That is the reason why I got a little bit restless seeing your example of Lovisa's rough session. Perhaps it would be nice to be able to track down those two 'friends' who violated her and give them a little reminder of something.

 

[GD-studios]

Good to know. Yet I was never one of those 'MOAR-players' - just to correct some assumptions recently attached on me.
In my latest game-efforts my MC has 2 slaves, no more, and his fix idea is to keep them safe, happy and healthy. That is the reason why I got a little bit restless seeing your example of Lovisa's rough session. Perhaps it would be nice to be able to track down those two 'friends' who violated her and give them a little reminder of something.

Ah, that's actually the original idea of MoR - one, or a maximum of two slaves at the same time. Then people started hoarding and now we're up to ten slots (eight household, wife and arena) .

Regarding the "rough session" in the screenshots; that's under the worst possible conditions; sending her out in the slums, without guards, and without bribing local gangs - just to have those events executing.

Making them Escorts, with watchful guard's eyes and all bribes paid, is far less intimitating. Pimping them alone in Ikaanos' seedy part is one way of lowering their Willpower quickly, however. We have hundreds of possible combinations here, so players will be able to experiment a lot with balancing income and risk.

 

[tsap]

Ah, that's actually the original idea of MoR - one, or a maximum of two slaves at the same time. Then people started hoarding and now we're up to ten slots (eight household, wife and arena) .

Regarding the "rough session" in the screenshots; that's under the worst possible conditions; sending her out in the slums, without guards, and without bribing local gangs - just to have those events executing.

Making them Escorts, with watchful guard's eyes and all bribes paid, is far less intimitating. Pimping them alone in Ikaanos' seedy part is one way of lowering their Willpower quickly, however. We have hundreds of possible combinations here, so players will be able to experiment a lot with balancing income and risk.

Arena and Virax there close by have added my enthusiasm for the game a good deal. Next 'big' thing I am drooling after - odd as it might appear - is the wife arrangement and legacy, but that probably comes just from me being such a sick, immoral and hurtful bastard.

 

[mrttao]

Ah, that's actually the original idea of MoR - one, or a maximum of two slaves at the same time. Then people started hoarding and now we're up to ten slots (eight household, wife and arena) .

the named girls have a ton of unique content:
1. backstory is unique
2. 3d renders are unique
3. dialog is unique
4. unique abilities (% boost to income, better gardener, etc) which are NOT represented via the trait system (and are in fact not really documented in game. gotta check the wiki for those)
5. unique questlines specific to individual girls

this is not "hoarding", but wanting to experience the game's content.

honestly randomly generated girls were introduced far too late. I can't justify wasting a slot on them when there are still several girls who I didn't experience the unique content of who are competing for those slots.

On top of that, the game is fairly grindy so I have little incentive/interest in replaying it from the beginning with a different set of slaves

also, the good mercenaries cost a fuckton. so having more girls working and earning an income (which you can then pour into investments) helps a lot. As ramping up from poor to rich takes a while.

Personally? I want a housing capacity that is at a minimum equal to the number of unique girls. So I can experience all their unique content without alt-saves replaying.

 

[mrttao]

Also, I would think you would want it to. You put in all this effort, I would think you would want people to actually see it.
I imagine most players just miss out on all the unique girl specific content you make, due to their slots being filled with other girls.

most slave-girl specific content? I have not seen it myself.
because I happened to have chosen different girls for my very limited slots.
and I am not making alt saves for it considering the grind involved.
so... I am currently just waiting for more slots to unlock so I can then look up the most content rich girls on the wiki and put them in it to experience said content.

 

[tinman18]

What hargan said. A smaller quest, the great house parameters and a unique ancient family weapon (Colt .45 Peacemaker).

The Tier2+ quest will soon get a second chapter, which involves a custom slave affiliated to your brother. I'll post more about this later!

I'm a Tier2 member & have the Tier2 html. How do I get the Colt Peacemaker? It dosn't show up in my inventory.

 

[HereandNow2022]

I'm a Tier2 member & have the Tier2 html. How do I get the Colt Peacemaker? It dosn't show up in my inventory.

You do the quest.

 

[GD-studios]

the named girls have a ton of unique content:
1. backstory is unique
2. 3d renders are unique
3. dialog is unique
4. unique abilities (% boost to income, better gardener, etc) which are NOT represented via the trait system (and are in fact not really documented in game. gotta check the wiki for those)
5. unique questlines specific to individual girls

this is not "hoarding", but wanting to experience the game's content.

honestly randomly generated girls were introduced far too late. I can't justify wasting a slot on them when there are still several girls who I didn't experience the unique content of who are competing for those slots.

On top of that, the game is fairly grindy so I have little incentive/interest in replaying it from the beginning with a different set of slaves

also, the good mercenaries cost a fuckton. so having more girls working and earning an income (which you can then pour into investments) helps a lot. As ramping up from poor to rich takes a while.

Personally? I want a housing capacity that is at a minimum equal to the number of unique girls. So I can experience all their unique content without alt-saves replaying.

Yeah, I was mostly kidding when calling it hoarding.

I've done some changes to the engine lately, making the game take up far less kbs and browser load. My guess is that the current cap on slaves before the engine suffers a slowdown is now (at least) a three digit number.

So, slave cap increase will be a priority in future updates.

 

[GD-studios]

I'm a Tier2 member & have the Tier2 html. How do I get the Colt Peacemaker? It dosn't show up in my inventory.

Instructions on starting the quest can be found

You must be registered to see the links

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[mrttao]

Yeah, I was mostly kidding when calling it hoarding.

I've done some changes to the engine lately, making the game take up far less kbs and browser load. My guess is that the current cap on slaves before the engine suffers a slowdown is now (at least) a three digit number.

So, slave cap increase will be a priority in future updates.

huh. I did not realize that it was due to technical reasons.
In that case I would have suggested reworking it so that excess slaves would be in stasis. Allowing you to obtain and experience all unique slaves, but not have to keep them.

Expand the main mansion from 2 rooms to 4 or 6 or whatever number the game can handle.
Those slaves actually get calculations done for them.

While the annex get reworked into some sort of stasis like storage. Where slaves put in there get no calculations done for them at all. They do not grow skills, they do not go to jobs, do not gain nor lose affection/happiness/etc, they neither earn nor spend gold.
Oh lorewise they are off doing their own thing, working and taking care of themselves. But mechanically they are frozen.

This would allow someone to experience all the different unique girls. But not have to actually keep them active, nor have to deal with the fact dismissing a slave permanently deletes her from the game.

 

[Konstantinus]

huh. I did not realize that it was due to technical reasons.
In that case I would have suggested reworking it so that excess slaves would be in stasis. Allowing you to obtain and experience all unique slaves, but not have to keep them.

Expand the main mansion from 2 rooms to 4 or 6 or whatever number the game can handle.
Those slaves actually get calculations done for them.

While the annex get reworked into some sort of stasis like storage. Where slaves put in there get no calculations done for them at all. They do not grow skills, they do not go to jobs, do not gain nor lose affection/happiness/etc, they neither earn nor spend gold.
Oh lorewise they are off doing their own thing, working and taking care of themselves. But mechanically they are frozen.

This would allow someone to experience all the different unique girls. But not have to actually keep them active, nor have to deal with the fact dismissing a slave permanently deletes her from the game.

This would actually defeat the point of this being a Sandboxlifesimulation. Unless he says we will get Kryostasischambers but even that would feel meh. But from Discord it is said something similar, like Arena is planed for the expansion after the comming one. That we will be able to buy external storages and plantations where we can send them to make money but not being in househould.

 

[mrttao]

This would actually defeat the point of this being a Sandboxlifesimulation. Unless he says we will get Kryostasischambers but even that would feel meh. But from Discord it is said something similar, like Arena is planed for the expansion after the comming one. That we will be able to buy external storages and plantations where we can send them to make money but not being in househould.

I disagree.
1. There are lots of other technical limitations, yet this game still manages to achieve its goals.
2. This is not just adding an "unrealistic" occurance, but rather you are trading several current unrealistic things for this one. In a manner which I think results in a net positive.
3. What else can you do, technical limitations exist. You can only choose between several different options of how to handle those technical limitations. Pretending they are not a thing isn't helping anyone.
4. The external plantation idea you suggested is not in any way shape or form addressing the technical limitations. It does not matter to the game if they are in a plantation or the annex, they require the same amount of system resources. Making the stasis occur while they are in a "plantation" is technically identical to my suggestion.

 

[QQP_Purple]

Is there any way to stop a girl hating me? Like I've got charisma related skills in the 80's and yet I still fail all my rolls.

Also the girl in question just seems to automatically hate me more each day and I can't keep up. It's like I broke something and now it's on an autopilot toward hell.

 

[Gunner Rey]

Is there any way to stop a girl hating me? Like I've got charisma related skills in the 80's and yet I still fail all my rolls.

Also the girl in question just seems to automatically hate me more each day and I can't keep up. It's like I broke something and now it's on an autopilot toward hell.

Which one is it?