khumak

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Bit of a question for you "experts" in Raana. Is there any realistic way to do a high-end combat party that doesn't rely on the handful of mercenaries with ammo packs and maybe Dexter for his crit chance? I can't figure out how to make a melee-focused party work, since only the player character can start in close combat. If that changed (Please, Grim, please!) so any character with the right skills could do it, that'd probably make slaves a good choice for melee-focused groups. I can put a plasma gun on anyone, but the ammo costs seem to turn most combats into economic losses. Of course, there's a case for just not using anything above a rifle or so for most combats (Although Bud is so cheap with his ammo pack that it's hard to justify leaving him at home for any budget team anyway) since most fights don't need them. But you do seem to need the expensive guns for some of the newer quests, so you're either eating huge ammo costs or huge hiring costs for temporary mercs.

Lack of effective combat party variety is probably in my top three criticisms right now, but I'd love it to be user error.
MC is the only one who can currently start in the close position so for everyone else, ranged combat is superior to melee except in long battles because you have to waste a turn moving in. With that being said, a pure melee strategy still works fine in pretty much all situations. It just takes a bit more work to get there. You'll want everyone to use a greatsword and that requires at least 75 strength to avoid a damage penalty and you'll also want everyone's melee skill to be high enough to be guaranteed to hit so somewhere in the 120+ range.

I would say for a pure melee party you're going to want everyone to have either warrior or brawler, preferably both. Malevolent and Crackshot also help. If you're going with an all slave party, health is going to be a potential problem since most slaves cap at less than 100 health. You could give them all stealth suits, but then MC has to solo tank everything which is literally impossible for the toughest fights unless you're ok with MC taking permanent stat losses every time he gets taken down.

In long fights melee actually out damages plasma but in shorter fights you will consistently take more damage than you would with ranged because of the need to waste a turn moving in. In long fights the increased damage makes up for that wasted turn but the first round still hurts since you won't ever get a kill that round unless MC 1 shots something.

Some good options for a pure melee party if you're not using the top tiers would be Dexter or Kelly for their Crackshot ability, plus Rebecca, the ex arena champ in Kahill, and Zenobia for their guaranteed combat traits. Some of the lower tier mercs also have warrior, brawler, or both and could make good options because of that.
 

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Bit of a question for you "experts" in Raana. Is there any realistic way to do a high-end combat party that doesn't rely on the handful of mercenaries with ammo packs and maybe Dexter for his crit chance? I can't figure out how to make a melee-focused party work, since only the player character can start in close combat. If that changed (Please, Grim, please!) so any character with the right skills could do it, that'd probably make slaves a good choice for melee-focused groups.
I use combat staffs on myself, 2 slaves, and 1 mercenary and obviously have 1 equipped with heavy gun.
I hand to hand every battle.
It is easy and I spend nearly $0 on ammo.
 

khumak

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I'm trying to do the In The Name Of God quest. I have done all the courses, I have the lvl 2 portable PC, and I have maxed the home tech lvl. But I can't hack the door in Sewo. I used to in past games, but I can't now. Has something changed?
You need around 70 science skill to hack it in a reasonable time. You could probably do it with less but it might take 12+ hours. If you try it at like 25 science it's probably completely impossible. Having a techie with you gives you a minor boost but not enough to make up for low science skill.
 
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PrinceGriss

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Lack of effective combat party variety is probably in my top three criticisms right now, but I'd love it to be user error.
Started originally focused as a mercenary/combat build and had two slaves with rifles (michelle/juno), Peasant w/ rifle, and Loren w/rifle. Cost less than $100 a day, not including using some stimpacks after some fights.

I don't remember it being too hard to regularly cycle through Watery Eye's freebooter, Celior mercs, Marston Ave mercs, and Stokke hill bandits, etc. You should be able to collect enough rifles to give you extra 30-06 ammo to keep this going for awhile. You can further supplement this with arena fights. I rarely bothered with fights outside the city.

With the latest updates, when you get good enough armor across your entire party to tank weaker enemies you can start dedicating at least one character with a combat staff to almost guarantee a male slave every fight. These guys can be sold for about $300-700 extra per fight.

Now that this run is about 500+ days in, I abuse the ammo pack mercs when I feel like doing any combat:
Aria (free) or Enya ($45) w/ Power Katana (Loren would be better /w +3 free dmg, but my Enya has about 139 melee from using her so long)
Space Marine ($260) w/ Plasma Rifle (ammo pack)
Connor ($330) w/ Plasma Rifle (ammo pack)
Mr. Doyle ($25) w/ coil gun
~$660 a day which is about one arena fight if you don't have any investments or other income streams.

Oh, also don't forget bounties. I don't think it's possible to take the actual bounty as a slave, but at 4/6 up you can start getting coilguns and plasma rifles for basically free after almost every fight (6/6 fights can rarely give two plasma guns, which is like an extra $9k). Plus whatever loot money and the bounty reward. Just remember to wrap everything up before 21:00, so you can turn in the bounty for a fresh one the next day.
Bounties will be important later when your control starts reducing the amount of bandits being respawned.
 
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Quriosity

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You need around 70 science skill to hack it in a reasonable time. You could probably do it with less but it might take 12+ hours. If you try it at like 25 science it's probably completely impossible. Having a techie with you gives you a minor boost but not enough to make up for low science skill.
My Science is 64. So I am screwed, then? Guess I can try to get a techie to come.

<edit> I just looked. I have no one with techie skills. This seems like a bug, if a quest has no possibility of moving forward.
 

khumak

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My Science is 64. So I am screwed, then? Guess I can try to get a techie to come.

<edit> I just looked. I have no one with techie skills. This seems like a bug, if a quest has no possibility of moving forward.
There are books and academy classes that raise science skill significantly. If you've already taken all the classes and read all the books then it's harder but you can gain science at the historical society. It takes a LONG time though. I did that quest with around 70 science and it took awhile but I would think it should be possible with 64. You might have to spend all day on the hacking part though. Each click has a chance to succeed or fail so just because you failed once doesn't mean you can't do it. You might have to try each of the 4 hacks 10, 15, 20 times each before you succeed if your skills are low compared to the hacking difficulty. At high science skill you'll succeed on all of them on the first or 2nd try.

The hacking portion of Mai Lynn's quest is even harder although that one can be bypassed.
 

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I was wondering how you raise devotion or is it just an over time thing, I cant find any info on it.
 

Dollars303

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My Science is 64. So I am screwed, then? Guess I can try to get a techie to come.

<edit> I just looked. I have no one with techie skills. This seems like a bug, if a quest has no possibility of moving forward.
I've never used books or anything else, you can raise science with a lucky roll socializing at the redhaven Furry's Tavern. It gives it to you on the second social action. Also you can get it as a rare thing if you go to the assembly plant and work there and socialize there.
Edit: It's also possible to raise your academic skill there too. i think they max out around 80 for academic and 100 for science in those two places.
 
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ntelinatsos

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Thanks,I got it. But I have one more question. How do I increase Loren's corruption? It always stays at 35 even if I choose "Demand sex".
The best way to increase any slave's corruption is through bondage. If your Flagellation is too high, you wipe them many times, until they start gain corruption, then you can have a sex with them to increase more Corruption.
 

ntelinatsos

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I'm assuming you got to the Task 2 for the Hunt Research (Infinity), as well? It's currently unfeasible until there is a new way to consistently train slave's intelligence outside of letting them sit as students and pray to the RNG gods. It would be nice if you could raise intelligence as easily as you can with servants. If you really want the 195K, you can always take a high INT slave and shorten the days, but you're easily looking at 400-500 days for 20-30 levels.

I'd suggest skipping it until it's reworked.
Actually i'm in task III and that's even harder than task II.
See the image above this post.
 

khumak

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In the first screenshot you can see the Intelligence of my slave (35) and in the second screenshot, you can see the Intelligence of my slave 20 days later, studing in History and Anthropology (9% chances to increase Int per day).

As you can see, in 20 days she got zero Intelligence, and i need to increase her Intelligence up to 85 (+50 Int).

So, i'm asking to add a new way to increase our slave's Intelligence, since in the current system, is kinda impossible.
You could marry her and take her to the cafe over and over again. There's a small chance of increasing her intelligence each time. The chance increases if you have science and/or academics higher than 90 (both is better). There's also an extremely small chance that she will increase your intelligence as well but that only works if you have high academics and science and even with that it's a less than 1% chance. I haven't tried it in awhile because the chance is small enough it pretty much requires abusing F5 unless you want to grind it out for 20+ years in game. Technically you can use that method to boost a girl to 120 intelligence though.

The academy is really the only passive way I think. I don't know what the cap there is but I know for sure that Averil has gained points there and she starts at 80.

Starting from 35 intelligence is probably not worth it though. You might be better off hitting the slave auction and buying a virgin with high intelligence. Then you can train up her other stats.
 

Gunner Rey

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My Science is 64. So I am screwed, then? Guess I can try to get a techie to come.

<edit> I just looked. I have no one with techie skills. This seems like a bug, if a quest has no possibility of moving forward.
You just need higher Science to do that one, it's more of a longer term goal. Science is not that difficult to get, but depending on how you do it you may have to spend some time getting there. Have you read the books? As I recall you said you did the courses at the Academy. If not, stop at the bookstore and pick up the science books and you'll be there in no time.
 

Quriosity

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You just need higher Science to do that one, it's more of a longer term goal. Science is not that difficult to get, but depending on how you do it you may have to spend some time getting there. Have you read the books? As I recall you said you did the courses at the Academy. If not, stop at the bookstore and pick up the science books and you'll be there in no time.
I have read all the books in all the subjects. I have done all the courses. I guess I will sit in at the academy, and see if I can grind some smarts :p
 

Fade710

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Is there a pregnancy's timer somewhere, I thought I saw one but then I couldn't find it again?
 
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