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Just started a new game to try out the new patch, and maaaaan Sloppy is rough. Adrienne apparently always has both Sloppy and Bratty, which makes her kind of a nightmare to deal with. Sloopy is a 15% chance to decrease discipline. All the ways to increase discipline (guard duty, stables, arena, academy, etc.) have a 15% or lower chance to proc, so unless you assign them to multiple sources, discipline gain will average out to zero.
You can reduce Sloppy by increasing perfectionist, but unless you start at character creation with the taskmaster trait, you're shit out of luck, because raising perfectionism requires 60 discipline. And the one source that COULD outpace the discipline loss, house maid with a maid dress and eventually the head maid title, straight up disables discipline gain.
So to actually get rid of Sloppy, you need to make them a liability in your tavern, keep them afraid, have them trained by a workaholic, and then reward their bad behavior by buying them a pony.
I'm mostly salty because Sloppy fucks up the one thing that Adrienne is supposed to be good at, which is accounting.
You can reduce Sloppy by increasing perfectionist, but unless you start at character creation with the taskmaster trait, you're shit out of luck, because raising perfectionism requires 60 discipline. And the one source that COULD outpace the discipline loss, house maid with a maid dress and eventually the head maid title, straight up disables discipline gain.
So to actually get rid of Sloppy, you need to make them a liability in your tavern, keep them afraid, have them trained by a workaholic, and then reward their bad behavior by buying them a pony.
I'm mostly salty because Sloppy fucks up the one thing that Adrienne is supposed to be good at, which is accounting.
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Change sloppy for her from 100 to 0
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Clemency
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Guard Duty + Educator + a title is my go to. I do have a significant Medicine stat, so training her Medicine up is fairly routine for me.
Sloppy works like Pure/Malevolent and Shy/Extroverted. Sloppy is lumped with Perfectionist.
0-25 = Sloppy
26-75 (or some specific number I do not care to look up again) = none
75-100 = Perfectionist
Wait, she always has both? Since when? Mine just has superficial.
IIRC she (and some other mercs and such) does get somewhat randomized traits, but they're set at day start instead of upon recruitment.
So it sounds like you just got unlucky.
Guard duty gains depend on the skill of the captain, but it's way over 15% on a good captain. Also Educators exist. You definitely can gain way more discipline way faster than Sloppy loses it, at least up to 80.
From 0.8.4 changelog:
- An assigned maid has a 15% daily chance of decreasing her Sloppy trait (upcoming feature).
But nevertheless, as we've established, gaining discipline is way easier than you think, and all you need to do is keep it above 60 while the title you've given them increases their Perfectionist trait out of the Sloppy area.
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Since the patch those traits were created. So 0.8.4.3 or 0.8.4.2. If you have a Perfectionist Adrienne already, then the autopatcher will not give her Sloppy. But those without (or maybe without max discipline, since my Bud had no perfectionist but no Sloppy), they get it. My Dexter suddenly got Sloppy and I did not realize it. As for Bratty, I am not fully sure what's the mechanic for that. I know my Dakota and Aisha got autopatched with Bratty, but other guaranteeds like Felix did not get it.
Well, my Adrienne got neither, Dakota and Aisha got Bratty and Evelyn is the only Sloppy.
Bratty is not as bad as Sloppy, but I sure hope there's gonna be a better mechanic for getting rid of it.
Yeah, like I said I just started up a new run because my main save is already in the Third Republic with a pretty stacked household. On a new save I try to prioritize Averil for food and, until I get Zapin Fields, keep my household pretty small. I don't really have a good guard captain candidate yet. It's possible that I just got unlucky, but I save-scummed the shit out of Adrienne over multiple days and always got Bratty, Sloppy, Superficial, Materialistic, Jaded, Starlet, and Extroverted. REALLY bad trait loadout for the early game haha
EDIT: Oh yeah, and now that I'm thinking about it... My Adrienne has 10 Discipline. Assuming that with a really great Captain, guard duty has a 50% chance of raising Discipline, and Sloppy never procs, that's 100 days to get her to 60 Discipline so that she can START losing Sloppy. All on a character that will never put a weapon in her hand once she gets rid of Sloppy. I am glad that in the next patch Maid duty will decrease Sloppy, but it's crazy to me that this version survived playtesting at all.
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There's mercs that'll do the job well from the start, but if you're not looking to work to pay their salaries every damn day, Truls and the Cultist Monk are easily enough capturable until Cassius can be obtained.
I think Bratty and Sloppy are overhyped in so far as how bad they are, and if I were to start over and Adrienne got that exact set of traits, I would still take her ASAP and do what I always do with her, stick her in the Golden Dragon.
That's... actually a really good idea. Guess I'm stuck with Banker McSquareJaw as my accountant for yet another run
I don't get it, isn't Armand better in every way as an accountant to begin with? As far as I am concerned, Adrienne belongs to the streets with the rest of them. Even before sloppy and bratty she was pretty lame, accountant bonus or not.
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So, I finished the main quest, is this truly over now? Other than Dengi invasion, I mean. I wanna get an opportunity to swat that cunt Ezra, the little shit has been getting on my nerves.
manmademonster
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Dev is currently writing and scripting out elements of the alternative path for the main mission, where you sell Aria and advance in the existing political hierarchy. No idea if that route will allow you to 'swat' the twit, but I'd imagine you'll eventually get a chance to squash the rebellion.
manmademonster
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Entrusting important responsibilities to women? They have another way to serve the house.
Nah, I meant removing him from the picture after the rebellion succeeds, Stalin-Trotsky style. The cockblocked twat hates my guts, I intentionally picked options to fuck him over during the mastersphere assault (they must be there for a reason?), so I expected some kinda closure now that the idiot has been given command over the entire 3rd republic military.
Ed: eh, I looked through the code, and it seems disp_ezra affects nothing but a couple of alternate text lines at the moment. Shame.
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On a somewhat related note, Aria happened to be halfway pregnant (eat that, Ezra) when she skipped the house to play a chancellor. What's gonna happen to the child now? I'm not paying any alimonies!