kopiluwak

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You get a big ass sword, an achievement and so on.
I went through all the hustle and fought the gauntlet to the Dengi king (twice), and honestly I though it was not worth it at all... the benefit are marginal, I honestly believe it's best to weather the invasion, wait it out, farm groups in Imogen and buy W.E.G.A. armours... that's a better way to "make use" of the invasion, it's the optimal and most beneficial way to just farm them.

I was hoping, from the several dialogues mentioning the Dengis, that we would get a horde of monstrous rapist and cannibals, that we could witness some of that, hell maybe even capture a Dengi as a bodyguard or a big muscle mammy, a breeding farm...

This whole event chain is disappointing imho, it's too "surface level" I think there could be so much to expand on (and to be fair, as the game will still be in development for a couple of years, will likely be expanded on) but I can't shake the feeling that Grim just doesn't dare to go into spicy content.
 

Clemency

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Can anybody tell me what Survival and Stealth max at?
Survival is currently capped at 80 and will be raised to a 100 cap for the MC for 0.8.4.6. NPC Survival is capped at 80 for repeatable actions and will be raised to 100 next patch as well. They ultimately cap at 120 thanks to Perfectionist, unless they start with higher Survival.
Stealth is capped from repeatable actions at 90 (one of the workplaces of 5 at the Assembly Plant). Baneclaw dung should be capped lower at 70.
How do you get more than 96 occupants in the household? If it's the annex how many extra does each one get you?
128 total. You only build and upgrade one annex. You cannot delete it once built.
It's not some random specific storm - it's simply storm weather, the one with the warning like this:
Shoutout to when she used to appear during heatwaves from over a year ago.
If you weren't such an asshole you'd used it advantageously. Like no sub, cannot access Crystal Heights, no rep, and then not until the farcical weather. They can access Watery Eyes.
If you look to exploit the Stormchild, waiting for a storm and going to Crystal Heights is the advantageous solution because she will be the first to appear, which means no matter how many times you F5, it will be her and you simply just reroll her stats with every refresh. You would not be shown anyone else last I checked, just her, on every refresh. Which means this:
My Stormchild has huge beauty 122, and huge charisma 97
can be better. I rerolled her easily at Crystal Heights and got a 145 Beauty Stormchild. And because I saved after the auction purchase but before I left the auction hall, I can just load that save if I did not get the trait I want her to. Sure, I would need influence to enter Crystal Heights, but I only need to get 1000 influence once (higher if control is low) and its very easy to reach, for the convenience of only rerolling one single NPC instead of having to go through a lot of rng.
any tips about dealing with the dengi king?, i currently have all my characters with their max dex, best armour and high strenght with heavy sword but i always get obliterated xD
Worse comes to worst, you can just use your two cybercannons. The third one is locked behind Aria's grand questline, same with the two miniguns. One cybercannon from direct purchase in the Mastersphere, one from deciphering a twin-cipher taken from Rosita's The Goonies quest (attack the Goonies) and the level 2 rumors mission from Divine Juices in Watery Eyes (auto deciphered in the library with appropriate stat, I forgot if INT or Aca/Sci).

Health implant level 2 (NPC Menu ----> Actions ---> Crystal Heights clinic). What's their Melee Combat/Ranged Combat stat, 150? Do you have your ? As mentioned, the Combat Tendstims you buy from the Mastersphere can be used to heal during combats.

Alternatively, if you are not min-maxing willpower for the one achievement or because you like seeing high willpower, you can use which costs willpower to cast and requires Prowler in the Depths questline books.
do you get anything especial for killing the guy?
The MC gets the trait Defender of Ikaanos which passively increases every NPC's Respect til 50. Surprisingly, I think it works for all scripted NPCs in containers that are already generated, not just the ones in your house. For example, I did not recruit Kyle til recently, but his respect is already at 50. Might be a bug, but it can make lore sense..
 

greatkahn

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If I have maxed out my workers at my mines (75/75 workers at Kahill for example) I no longer get the option to send my friendly captives off to work there as guards. Is that a bug or intentional?
 

JGreen90

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Survival is currently capped at 80 and will be raised to a 100 cap for the MC for 0.8.4.6. NPC Survival is capped at 80 for repeatable actions and will be raised to 100 next patch as well. They ultimately cap at 120 thanks to Perfectionist, unless they start with higher Survival.
Stealth is capped from repeatable actions at 90 (one of the workplaces of 5 at the Assembly Plant). Baneclaw dung should be capped lower at 70.

What is stealth capped at? I cannot raise past 40. My survival on gaining dexterity gained to 80 from 65 since raising my dexterity to 75 from it being limp. Where no stats were gaining. Hunting also slightly raise my stamina to 50. I had been lazy in my game not getting Cassius. I had two hunters Jack had huge survival wildborn, and Loren was a jeager wildborn. They gained stuff maybe to 100 while I am hunting and stopped at 100, I thought, it's probably 80, noticed they gained points didn't check, from 75. I had been lazy so far, I just got the Black Guard and Cassius, I might change to Clea it depends on my set up. Cassius, Kate, Black Scorpion, and a shooter with an ammo pack, dislike the guy at Virax springs, Ayden, armour and weapon cannot be changed. I dislike Black Guard because of his family quest. Ayden normally guard captain after boosting him a little. Haven't mucked with Clea enough. My Cassius I just got has 60 medic, haha.

What does Stealth cap at and what affects those two traits, Survival and Stealth gaining? When I made 65 it was in 1 in 10 rolls that would gain points, stealth points, and survival points, and maybe stamina. They stopped 1 in 50 nothing until raising dexterity. But my Stealth hasn't gained neither had stamina past the above? My skills due to being lazy not acquiring a better party were simply buffed to get Cassius up to 75 each, melee, gun, strength, dexterity wasn't needed, stamina is much less at 50. I didn't commit to training, and training a bunch of people I am changing.
 
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Hairybum

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What is stealth capped at? I cannot raise past 40. My survival on gaining dexterity gained to 80 from 65 since raising my dexterity to 75 from it being limp. Where no stats were gaining. Hunting also slightly raise my stamina to 50. I had been lazy in my game not getting Cassius. I had two hunters Jack had huge survival wildborn, and Loren was a jeager wildborn. They gained stuff maybe to 100 while I am hunting and stopped at 100, I thought, it's probably 80, noticed they gained points didn't check, from 75. I had been lazy so far, I just got the Black Guard and Cassius, I might change to Clea it depends on my set up. Cassius, Kate, Black Scorpion, and a shooter with an ammo pack, dislike the guy at Virax springs, Ayden, armour and weapon cannot be changed. I dislike Black Guard because of his family quest. Ayden normally guard captain after boosting him a little. Haven't mucked with Clea enough. My Cassius I just got has 60 medic, haha.

What does Stealth cap at and what affects those two traits, Survival and Stealth gaining? When I made 65 it was in 1 in 10 rolls that would gain points, stealth points, and survival points, and maybe stamina. They stopped 1 in 50 nothing until raising dexterity. But my Stealth hasn't gained neither had stamina past the above? My skills due to being lazy not acquiring a better party were simply buffed to get Cassius up to 75 each, melee, gun, strength, dexterity wasn't needed, stamina is much less at 50. I didn't commit to training, and training a bunch of people I am changing.
 
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JGreen90

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I went for it as a stat to get the secret garden quest. probably pointless. But could never follow her and she dies every time to whips. So I went for it in this game. Boneclaws melt, I have stim allergy. I'll clear the entire cave and mother and x2 with no health loss, black scorpion cassius kate myself and a good ammo pack w either plasma or coil.

I guess I better steal stuff at the assembly plant
 

JGreen90

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There's an error in this game. My control is losing, despite a reset to the negative event. It literally just depletes anyway, and it doesn't tell me why. If I load the game it has shown the reason, like bandits moved back into fort Marston or Stokke, it carries on the loss regardless of me proceeding to a day with no loss of control. I have been trying to work my blacksmith and training, not doing bounties for the last few days. My control went down from 22 to 16. If I do bounties it doesn't seem to degrade.

Also I'm having another error. I haven't got affinity yet, but my household is losing affection. I had some awful feminists but I raised the girls to undying and everybody else to loving. I've haven't been focused on anything except making two workshops, full and with good people. Everything upgraded, and training stats and reading book. Despite not buying the gang in watery eyes I am losing a lot of affection. Even on doing daily pool parties. Dunno why. Maybe not enough maids not enough butlers. I am not adding these people yet. Affinity will wallop affection to max, in the last game it didn't degrade. But I raised huge corruption? This game I haven't been corrupting them daily. Too much blacksmithing? Dunno why the big loss from undying?
 

Ennoch

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There's an error in this game. My control is losing, despite a reset to the negative event. It literally just depletes anyway, and it doesn't tell me why. If I load the game it has shown the reason, like bandits moved back into fort Marston or Stokke, it carries on the loss regardless of me proceeding to a day with no loss of control. I have been trying to work my blacksmith and training, not doing bounties for the last few days. My control went down from 22 to 16. If I do bounties it doesn't seem to degrade.
Certain factors lowers (and/or has the chance to) Control without showing up in the end-day event log. Presence of Urban Titans. Investing into certain gangs. Active Dengi Invasion. Supporting the Bandit Faction.
 

JGreen90

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Certain factors lowers (and/or has the chance to) Control without showing up in the end-day event log. Presence of Urban Titans. Investing into certain gangs. Active Dengi Invasion. Supporting the Bandit Faction.
Hmm yea urban Titans showed up, gangs probably moved in, despite loading. I have the felton gang. None others. Literally not far into my game. Not gone mad doing stuff except getting two workshops full of people. I am roughly 160-170 days in. Haven't cleared the evelyn thing yet, not beautiful enough.
 

Clemency

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What does Stealth cap at and what affects those two traits, Survival and Stealth gaining?
I already stated the stealth cap if you checked the rest of my reply. Steal from the plant. Both stat gains are pure RNG.
but my household is losing affection
Could be a few things. Active and unmet salary demands in the settings. High demoralization causing high fear. Using zeal when preaching in the shrine.

Pool parties are capped at Loving, so it could not keep Affection up.
 
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