Thoodie

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Thoodie

Any plans for non yaoi content in the game? Female enemies doing *female enemy things* to Max?

No complaints from me if not, the game is amazing and I can't wait to see what else you add. I've always adored your art!

Keep up the great work!
I get this request from time to time, so maybe I'll eventually add 1 or 2 actual females, didn't really plan on it though! Thanks for the positive feedback.
 
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Hedon Gaming

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Hi Guys!

Since i really enjoyed this short demo i made a short gameplay video for those who want to check it, how the game looks like.





PS: If You want to play the game in Full Screen. Create a shortcut to the game on the desktop. Go the shortcut preferences and there is an option to force launch the game in Maximized window to match Your screen. Worked for Me on W10 , but depending on Your Screen Resolution there might be scaling quality problem.

Hope this is usefull :)

Post Edit: I updated the second link because PornHub have sent me notification that publishing video with "animals sex, even cartoon is not allowed" lol. So i removed the H scene with Doogo.
 
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Andragon

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Thank you for the positivity! I think a prime reason that you don't see it often is because bestiality is a risky and mostly avoided subject alltogether. I sadly am also already working on a replacement enemy for it, so I must warn you the Lynx will most likely be removed at one point. I will keep the animations online somewhere for those who want to see it.
I might think of other enemies that can knot the elf, without being bestiality. The main antagonist Fae has a demonic knotted penis, I did a big animation with audio for her already as well. I can't post links yet because my account is too new, but you can find it on my Twitter (compressed) and on Patreon.
It's such a shame that a site designed for people to do what is not normally done has frowned on the people who actually do what is normally not done.
 

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Thank you for the positivity! I think a prime reason that you don't see it often is because bestiality is a risky and mostly avoided subject alltogether. I sadly am also already working on a replacement enemy for it, so I must warn you the Lynx will most likely be removed at one point. I will keep the animations online somewhere for those who want to see it.
I might think of other enemies that can knot the elf, without being bestiality. The main antagonist Fae has a demonic knotted penis, I did a big animation with audio for her already as well. I can't post links yet because my account is too new, but you can find it on my Twitter (compressed) and on Patreon.
Good for you for trying to be more objective and acknowledging that bestiality can be a big turn off for some people despite liking it yourself. I feel like it's important for an artist to create things they like, and what they want to see, so their art can be uniquely their own personal expression. But at the same time, realizing they are an entertainer, and they have put themselves in their audience's shoes. You have to find a balance and give people what they want to see without pandering (or in this case not give them something they don't want to see).

All too often to I see too many kinks in one work. I'll come to see one kink and then leave because of another unrelated kink was included. One word of advice I can give is to not throw in every kink but the kitchen sink in porn. Somethings are just a turn off if you aren't specifically into them. Personally, I avoided the "Lynx" enemy (I don't want to see that shit) and wished f95's tags would be used properly for once (no bestiality tag to warn me, but no one uses these tags right).

I'm glad you want to remove it from the game, I really am, but consider this: The great thing about a video game is that they're an interactive experience. So why not replace the Lynx with something that isn't bestiality (like the Fae), but create a menu that can replace the Fae with the Lynx if a box is checked, that way the bestiality is optional. The default would ofcourse be the Fae, so you have to go out of the way to see the bestiality, but it's still there for anyone who really wants to see it. Everybody wins. I can play this game without the fear of seeing bestiality, Andragon can continue to view the bestiality and Thoodie's game can appeal to more people.
 

Thronico

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........I can play this game without the fear of seeing bestiality, Andragon can continue to view the bestiality and Thoodie's game can appeal to more people.
It's more than likely due to Patreon ToS. They crack down on stuff like incest and bestiality under the guise of it being a potentially legal issue.
 
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Sivius

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The art and animation is amazing, which isn't a surprise, but the gameplay is... not so good. I mean, the Angel Girl style gameplay wasn't great to begin with, but it hasn't gotten any better over the years.

I'd suggest a more general platformer would be more fun, but that's rethinking your core gameplay and might be more than you want to take on. Otherwise, it needs some tightening up. I think you should shrink the hitboxes so they feel a bit more natural. Only the front half/two-thirds of the one that runs up on you from behind, for example. As it is, it's way too common to get pulled into a capture scene when it feels like you should have made it. Someone else mentioned the problem with tentacles, which pop up beneath you without adequate warning way too often. It also feels like there's a lot of blocker/wait-it-out type enemies that mean stopping and waiting, which makes the tentacles even worse. The random appearance of enemies turns it into a luck-based game, too. Maybe a bit more logic into what appears together, spawn timing, and generating "no escape" scenarios. Like someone else mentioned, the jump's too floaty - which pretty much comes with the Angel Girl style, I know - and the attack feels a bit too slow.

I'd love to see this as a game I'd play regularly, which is why I'm commenting, but as it is I'd probably just load it up to look at the gallery. With Thoodie's artwork, this has the potential to become a classic if the game side of it comes together.
 

ttt111111

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add some cheats because these shit hitboxes and unresponsive button mashing segments make the game impossible
also a fucking timer, really
 

Plake

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Thank you for the positivity! I think a prime reason that you don't see it often is because bestiality is a risky and mostly avoided subject alltogether. I sadly am also already working on a replacement enemy for it, so I must warn you the Lynx will most likely be removed at one point. I will keep the animations online somewhere for those who want to see it.
I might think of other enemies that can knot the elf, without being bestiality. The main antagonist Fae has a demonic knotted penis, I did a big animation with audio for her already as well. I can't post links yet because my account is too new, but you can find it on my Twitter (compressed) and on Patreon.
Glad to read there will be an alternative enemy to the canine. But to not annoy the peeps that do like that in their game: maybe insert a button in the main menu so players can choose?

Also, can somebody point me to the topic where we can ask for fan sigs? I am a noob in design, but would LOVE to get q fan sig for this game!
 

smegmaboyo

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i like the idea of corruption seeds and would like to see it become more fleshed out over time
i can't say i'm a fan of the very stiff movement & combat, i.e only one real attack, no attacking in more than one direction or even turning around, it feels like a worse version of KooooNsoft's Witch Girl.
art is very good and if the question to focus more on yaoi/non-yaoi is still up in the air i'd like to say to add as many cute boys and/or futas as you feel appropriate
as far as demos go this is pretty bloody good and i'm more than interested to see where it goes
 

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Looking really nice, wouldn't mind a low attack (dunno if that was mentioned at all).

I know obviously heaps of people already going on about the game being gay only so far, personally I'm into futa and with max being very feminine it's easy enough for me to just imagine him as one, not to be offensive or anything to your character or game just my take on it.

Also obviously not my thing but I agree with the other players who like gay content and how there really isn't much for them out there, but I also can't help but want some of the really good art to be my thing too :p

Really like your art style and it plays really solidly so far, looking forward to more thanks :)
 
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Mirza86

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Ok, so... I identify as a straight male and am married to my beautiful wife of 7 years... So why is this so damn arousing?!? Maybe its the top notch animations/sounds along with the art depicting just how damn good Max is feeling but Jesus Christ... Amazing job for fucking with my sexuality Thoodie. Seriously, please keep this up, I wanna know where this goes.
 
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Beggarman

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Ok, so... I identify as a straight male and am married to my beautiful wife of 7 years... So why is this so damn arousing?!? Maybe its the top notch animations/sounds along with the art depicting just how damn good Max is feeling but Jesus Christ... Amazing job for fucking with my sexuality Thoodie. Seriously, please keep this up, I wanna know where this goes.
shitpost answer: nah u gay lol

Serious answer: Max is still designed to be cute and feminine. The fact that you find them arousing is because you're seeing those qualities. Everyone can stop worrying that they're gay now. (not trying to sound combative, just saying)

Vaguely-related-rambling-directed-at-nobody-in-particular: When people are complaining about there not being other games with art like this, I think it's that focus on cuteness that people are referring to. Or at least it's what I'm referring to.

I'm not too good at explaining this, but in my experience, the vast majority of games that come out with female MC's go for significantly sexualized characters. Even if the art style trends on the cuter side (e.g. something like Atelier Tia), characters still tend to have above-average tits and ass sizes, and wear clothes which are overtly sexy and/or exotic. Few games go for smaller proportioned characters and more common girly clothing choices unless there's an additional reason to. Usually, that additional reason is that the character is a trap, genderswapped M2F, or a loli (and even then, the genderswap option is usually limited to text-only games like Newlife, where there's a lot of options that frankly don't change much). Basically, unless the game really needs to sell the character as young or feminine, these attributes are usually ignored in favour of big tits and skimpy clothes.

I think that's why so many people (me included) seem to be expressing frustration in this topic. Yes, there's plenty of female-protagonist games in this vague genre. No, I don't want this game to be altered to my tastes - this niche is catered to less than most of my own, plus I like the game anyway. But... I mean, there aren't many games with cute, non-hypersexualised main characters, and I don't think there's many other ways to say "Hey, we want more of this sort of thing!" Just kinda shitty that it comes off like complaining about this game.
 

Mirza86

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shitpost answer: nah u gay lol

Serious answer: Max is still designed to be cute and feminine. The fact that you find them arousing is because you're seeing those qualities. Everyone can stop worrying that they're gay now. (not trying to sound combative, just saying)

Vaguely-related-rambling-directed-at-nobody-in-particular: When people are complaining about there not being other games with art like this, I think it's that focus on cuteness that people are referring to. Or at least it's what I'm referring to.

I'm not too good at explaining this, but in my experience, the vast majority of games that come out with female MC's go for significantly sexualized characters. Even if the art style trends on the cuter side (e.g. something like Atelier Tia), characters still tend to have above-average tits and ass sizes, and wear clothes which are overtly sexy and/or exotic. Few games go for smaller proportioned characters and more common girly clothing choices unless there's an additional reason to. Usually, that additional reason is that the character is a trap, genderswapped M2F, or a loli (and even then, the genderswap option is usually limited to text-only games like Newlife, where there's a lot of options that frankly don't change much). Basically, unless the game really needs to sell the character as young or feminine, these attributes are usually ignored in favour of big tits and skimpy clothes.

I think that's why so many people (me included) seem to be expressing frustration in this topic. Yes, there's plenty of female-protagonist games in this vague genre. No, I don't want this game to be altered to my tastes - this niche is catered to less than most of my own, plus I like the game anyway. But... I mean, there aren't many games with cute, non-hypersexualised main characters, and I don't think there's many other ways to say "Hey, we want more of this sort of thing!" Just kinda shitty that it comes off like complaining about this game.
Ha! Im not really worried about my heterosexuality to be in dire peril or anything, as I know that human sexuality has a crazy wide spectrum. I just found it odd that I would be turned on to the degree that I was with it being a game that is basically M/M only. On a side note, I am a big fan of CHYOA and see that you have a profile on it and will have to check out your stuff! Cheers.
 
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Only problem I tend to have with this genre of game is that most enemies end up being disgusting hentai monsters and plants instead of actually sexy enemies. You can make different scenes with humanoid characters without it being repetitive.

Please, no more pig-faced orcs or rapist zombies.
 
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