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There is a hint system at the top of the screen and several chapter 3 guides linked on the main page.
I think it's a bug where I choose both route (normal and NTR) that's why I can't talk to Alvin
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If he's pissed use the laptop in MC's room. Click on the webcam icon and his name will come up.I think it's a bug where I choose both route (normal and NTR) that's why I can't talk to Alvin
nope still not showing, and also i still have the perfume and i need to give the perfume to kristel but its still bugged cuz when i try to give the perfume no dialog about perfume only okay and leave, when i click okay it leads to sex scene..
- Oct 29, 2017
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I'm in chapter 4 and I knew from my questions and posts on here that the MC would let grandpa and Steve get a taste but what I didn't expect was Rita to go to Gemma's party with MC and promptly hop on to two random dicks just because she got a bit horny.
This is the same chick in chapter 3 that gets pissed if the MC wants to do the swinging scene on the beach.
He read her diary and saw her insecurity about their relationship and later reassures her in bed...
By asking her TO BE THE MOTHER OF HIS CHILDREN! She agrees and says lets get started.
Her personality swing between the previous chapters and 4 makes her seem like a different character. Like why didn't they get pissed and call gramps out to their moms when he blackmails them for sexual favors while his grandsons life is at stake?
That's not a swinging scene that's straight up hard NTR bullshit and they just went along with it and didn't mad..
Back to Gemma's party MC wasn't there to consent to her adventure and as far I know she didn't tell him about it.
Again that's not happy funtimes degenerate swinging if you're into that it's hard NTR behind the back shit.
MC even asked them to behave and not make him regret bringing them there. He wanted them to leave but Rita contradicted him.
Again that's not consensual fun times.
Dev I saw you say you have a bad memory in a previous post of yours so some friendly writing advice: You might want to make notes of the important bits so you can refer to them and refresh your memory so your writing and characterization stays consistent when you've forgotten some of the details over time.
Maybe give your games a quick playthrough.
I'm not normally even into swinging content and definitely not NTR but because of this games unique setting I thought I would give gramps and Steve a chance. At least they're family and I could see the MC reasoning that he hopes someone does that for him when he's old as shit.
But this game is so far is ruining a nice setting and characters that you built up over the years. I can see why so many people were outraged and I came into it a far more open mindset than the hardcore anti-NTR guys. All this on top of the numerous technical issues (2 is unplayable to many from I've read) it's pretty frustrating.
I'm just past the aforementioned Gemma party and Rita has a new movie idea...I can't wait to see how many dudes she wants to rail now LOL. That's sarcasm.
Well now like watching a train wreck in slow motion I guess I'll see where this wreckage leads until I can't stomach it anymore.
I wouldn't have liked it but I would've given it a reticent pass had the MC been involved and consented to any of the stuff I've mentioned.
Makes me really sad because there is a gem under all the crap with hot scenes and some nice characters that used to have cool personalities. Now the faces are the same but it remains to be seen how many others will follow Rita's path and become totally different people.
Warning to all future readers: Don't buy into the bullshit that others have posted that it's just consensual swinging and sharing. As I've outlined above I'm still at the beginning of chapter 4 and there is hard NTR IMO.
If the dev follows through on his consolidated remake that has a coherent non-NTR story I may support him but not now.
/ENDRANT
This is the same chick in chapter 3 that gets pissed if the MC wants to do the swinging scene on the beach.
He read her diary and saw her insecurity about their relationship and later reassures her in bed...
By asking her TO BE THE MOTHER OF HIS CHILDREN! She agrees and says lets get started.
Her personality swing between the previous chapters and 4 makes her seem like a different character. Like why didn't they get pissed and call gramps out to their moms when he blackmails them for sexual favors while his grandsons life is at stake?
That's not a swinging scene that's straight up hard NTR bullshit and they just went along with it and didn't mad..
Back to Gemma's party MC wasn't there to consent to her adventure and as far I know she didn't tell him about it.
Again that's not happy funtimes degenerate swinging if you're into that it's hard NTR behind the back shit.
MC even asked them to behave and not make him regret bringing them there. He wanted them to leave but Rita contradicted him.
Again that's not consensual fun times.
Dev I saw you say you have a bad memory in a previous post of yours so some friendly writing advice: You might want to make notes of the important bits so you can refer to them and refresh your memory so your writing and characterization stays consistent when you've forgotten some of the details over time.
Maybe give your games a quick playthrough.
I'm not normally even into swinging content and definitely not NTR but because of this games unique setting I thought I would give gramps and Steve a chance. At least they're family and I could see the MC reasoning that he hopes someone does that for him when he's old as shit.
But this game is so far is ruining a nice setting and characters that you built up over the years. I can see why so many people were outraged and I came into it a far more open mindset than the hardcore anti-NTR guys. All this on top of the numerous technical issues (2 is unplayable to many from I've read) it's pretty frustrating.
I'm just past the aforementioned Gemma party and Rita has a new movie idea...I can't wait to see how many dudes she wants to rail now LOL. That's sarcasm.
Well now like watching a train wreck in slow motion I guess I'll see where this wreckage leads until I can't stomach it anymore.
I wouldn't have liked it but I would've given it a reticent pass had the MC been involved and consented to any of the stuff I've mentioned.
Makes me really sad because there is a gem under all the crap with hot scenes and some nice characters that used to have cool personalities. Now the faces are the same but it remains to be seen how many others will follow Rita's path and become totally different people.
Warning to all future readers: Don't buy into the bullshit that others have posted that it's just consensual swinging and sharing. As I've outlined above I'm still at the beginning of chapter 4 and there is hard NTR IMO.
If the dev follows through on his consolidated remake that has a coherent non-NTR story I may support him but not now.
/ENDRANT
- Sep 28, 2020
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I agree on some things, and others I think you're just not justified.
Its been a while, but I'm pretty sure on the NTR version of that beach scene Max tells Rita that she can fuck as many cocks as she wants, as long as it makes her happy. So thats what she's doing. They never establish anything like "Max has to be present or give permission every time". I dont consider that to be NTR. Plus Rita is a porn director, so it's not like she puts much value in having casual sex.
There's another plotline that I do consider NTR, but I'm not gonna spoil it since you're not there yet. However that doesnt really matter, its not like the dev is claiming his game doesnt have NTR. The switch is not called "swinging" or "sharing", it's the "NTR" switch. I just think its silly to have the NTR switch on, and then complain there's NTR in the game. Yes, the first chapters let you choose for each scene individually, and that was the better solution, but now there are entire plotlines around steve and who he fucks, so it would be impossible to have continuity that way. Now if you had the NTR switch off and had trouble with the content, that would be another discussion. One that has happened at least a dozen times on this thread.
What I do agree is that in games like this, that constantly try to outdo its depravity, the characters are often totally lost, and become just "generic slut #X". Even characters I liked, like Laura and the mother, I don't find myself caring much about anymore. Thankfully, it seems the game is wrapping up. Currently I'd be more excited for a part 2 remake than whatever is happening next.
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Feel free to spoil me then since you have the info. I already stated I was pretty open-minded coming into this and I did my research all throughout this thread and a consistent theme from the defenders was that the NTR was sharing/swinging.
Is the MC falling out of favor with the girls because of Steve or whatever?
Please spoil me so I'll know if I want to continue. You'd be doing me a favor. What do you consider NTR in this story?
I want all the details if you're willing. How do you think the game will end?
Thanks for the response!
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Max is still the primary male for all of the girls. I'm not sure if I said it on the thread before, but I was on the camp that this game had no NTR, only sharing. But as of right now, there's one exception for me. I'm actually not sure if you started that subplot, but I'm talking about Grandpa x Laura. So Grandpa has shown an interest in Laura since part 1. Long story short, Laura and Grandpa start fooling around without Max's knowledge, let alone consent. Later, Steve develops a serum trying to make Grandpa walk again, but that comes with a side effect of giving him a foot long cock thats constantly hard. So now the entire family is set to "help" with his problem, so you can see where that's going. I could go on about how the grandpa situation with most of the family is arguable NTR, but I bring Laura specifically because they started before grandpa got his cock back, has been teased the longest, and was definetely behind Max's back. But they havent actually fucked yet.
But again, this whole thing happens with the NTR switch on. The only advice I can give you is just turn the switch off. If you still have issues with the content (there's a good chance you might), then it's a discussion worth having. Having the NTR switch enabled and getting annoyed there's NTR in the game just doesn't make much sense.
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I appreciate your candor but I was going off what people were saying that there was reasonable sharing/swinging as I stated which is also defined by the consent of both parties.
I'm not seeing a whole lot of that other than MC giving Rita the Ok after the fact for her orgy adventure at Gemma's. Does MC give the Ok for Steve etc?
I've read all on here that the story breaks down and lacks sense with the NTR switch off so like I said I was OK with some of the sharing etc.
Thanks for the response!
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The Rita thing wasnt after the fact though. The beach scene I mentioned is the first possible swinging scene for her, Max just tells her she can fuck whoever she wants. The scene at Gemma's happens after. As for explicit consent, for some characters Max does give his full "Go ahead" to Steve, and others not.
I'm guessing you read some of my previous comments, as I was one of the people who made that point, and I stand by what I said. The current development is made with NTR in mind, and "NTR off" is what remains after the cut content stitched together, sometimes not so elegantly. But thats honestly an issue with other games that do optional NTR as well. It's just easier to do than developing 2 alternative fully fledged storylines. That said, if you're thinking about dropping the game over NTR, then you should at least have the switch off and see if it suits you. Its not that the story becomes nonsensical or anything, its just that sometimes things bleed through, and character behaviour is inconsistent. But since you said you're more open minded, it shouldnt be a deal breaker for you.
No remorse, and no particular reason she hasnt told him. Currently, the different storylines are being wrapped up, and the developer is clearly making an effort to highlight how much the girl featured in the update loves Max. Laura's update hasn't happened yet (probably gonna be one of the last), but I have no reason to belive she would push Max to the wayside.
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Oh I wasn't referring to the beach scene in chapter 3 although I watched both choices and decided against it in my offical playthrough because she was genuinely upset about it. In both cases he does make the grand declaration of asking her to mother his kids which she happily accepts and even in the choice where they do swing she expresses doubts that it's what she wants now that she's tried it.
This is all fresh to me because I've been reading through the last couple days. Also your old posts have been quite informative and I like the questions you asked the dev so kudos!
I was talking about how right after Gemma's orgy Rita has a new plot for her movie next morning and she tells MC what happened last night with out of character glibness IMO.
I thank you again for your patience and answering my questions and if it seems a happy ending is coming that's nice. I don't feel too bad for MC because let's face it all his girls having been living with NTR switched on from the get go but at least he tries to love his family.
I do hope that the dev will follow through and make a consolidated and updated game with a more rounded out non-NTR path for those that want it like he promised but with his new game and rate of development I sadly won't hold my breathe.
Have a great day bud!
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You're right, an open relationship has nothing to do with netorare. For this reason, they are two completely different things that I don't like.