Ren'Py Completed Max's Life [Ch. 5 v0.55] [Kuggazer]

[Xythurr]

I agree on some things, and others I think you're just not justified.

Its been a while, but I'm pretty sure on the NTR version of that beach scene Max tells Rita that she can fuck as many cocks as she wants, as long as it makes her happy. So thats what she's doing. They never establish anything like "Max has to be present or give permission every time". I dont consider that to be NTR. Plus Rita is a porn director, so it's not like she puts much value in having casual sex.

There's another plotline that I do consider NTR, but I'm not gonna spoil it since you're not there yet. However that doesnt really matter, its not like the dev is claiming his game doesnt have NTR. The switch is not called "swinging" or "sharing", it's the "NTR" switch. I just think its silly to have the NTR switch on, and then complain there's NTR in the game. Yes, the first chapters let you choose for each scene individually, and that was the better solution, but now there are entire plotlines around steve and who he fucks, so it would be impossible to have continuity that way. Now if you had the NTR switch off and had trouble with the content, that would be another discussion. One that has happened at least a dozen times on this thread.

What I do agree is that in games like this, that constantly try to outdo its depravity, the characters are often totally lost, and become just "generic slut #X". Even characters I liked, like Laura and the mother, I don't find myself caring much about anymore. Thankfully, it seems the game is wrapping up. Currently I'd be more excited for a part 2 remake than whatever is happening next.

Feel free to spoil me then since you have the info. I already stated I was pretty open-minded coming into this and I did my research all throughout this thread and a consistent theme from the defenders was that the NTR was sharing/swinging.
Is the MC falling out of favor with the girls because of Steve or whatever?
Please spoil me so I'll know if I want to continue. You'd be doing me a favor. What do you consider NTR in this story?
I want all the details if you're willing. How do you think the game will end?
Thanks for the response!

 

[Joey's Conscience]

Feel free to spoil me then since you have the info. I already stated I was pretty open-minded coming into this and I did my research all throughout this thread and a consistent theme from the defenders was that the NTR was sharing/swinging.
Is the MC falling out of favor with the girls because of Steve or whatever?
Please spoil me so I'll know if I want to continue. You'd be doing me a favor. What do you consider NTR in this story?
I want all the details if you're willing. How do you think the game will end?
Thanks for the response!

Max is still the primary male for all of the girls. I'm not sure if I said it on the thread before, but I was on the camp that this game had no NTR, only sharing. But as of right now, there's one exception for me. I'm actually not sure if you started that subplot, but I'm talking about Grandpa x Laura. So Grandpa has shown an interest in Laura since part 1. Long story short, Laura and Grandpa start fooling around without Max's knowledge, let alone consent. Later, Steve develops a serum trying to make Grandpa walk again, but that comes with a side effect of giving him a foot long cock thats constantly hard. So now the entire family is set to "help" with his problem, so you can see where that's going. I could go on about how the grandpa situation with most of the family is arguable NTR, but I bring Laura specifically because they started before grandpa got his cock back, has been teased the longest, and was definetely behind Max's back. But they havent actually fucked yet.

But again, this whole thing happens with the NTR switch on. The only advice I can give you is just turn the switch off. If you still have issues with the content (there's a good chance you might), then it's a discussion worth having. Having the NTR switch enabled and getting annoyed there's NTR in the game just doesn't make much sense.

 

[Xythurr]

Max is still the primary male for all of the girls. I'm not sure if I said it on the thread before, but I was on the camp that this game had no NTR, only sharing. But as of right now, there's one exception for me. I'm actually not sure if you started that subplot, but I'm talking about Grandpa x Laura. So Grandpa has shown an interest in Laura since part 1. Long story short, Laura and Grandpa start fooling around without Max's knowledge, let alone consent. Later, Steve develops a serum trying to make Grandpa walk again, but that comes with a side effect of giving him a foot long cock thats constantly hard. So now the entire family is set to "help" with his problem, so you can see where that's going. I could go on about how the grandpa situation with most of the family is arguable NTR, but I bring Laura specifically because they started before grandpa got his cock back, has been teased the longest, and was definetely behind Max's back. But they havent actually fucked yet.

But again, this whole thing happens with the NTR switch on. The only advice I can give you is just turn the switch off. If you still have issues with the content (there's a good chance you might), then it's a discussion worth having. Having the NTR switch enabled and getting annoyed there's NTR in the game just doesn't make much sense.

I appreciate your candor but I was going off what people were saying that there was reasonable sharing/swinging as I stated which is also defined by the consent of both parties.
I'm not seeing a whole lot of that other than MC giving Rita the Ok after the fact for her orgy adventure at Gemma's. Does MC give the Ok for Steve etc?

I've read all on here that the story breaks down and lacks sense with the NTR switch off so like I said I was OK with some of the sharing etc.
Thanks for the response!

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[Joey's Conscience]

I appreciate your candor but I was going off what people were saying that there was reasonable sharing/swinging as I stated which is also defined by the consent of both parties.
I'm not seeing a whole lot of that other than MC giving Rita the Ok after the fact for her orgy adventure at Gemma's. Does MC give the Ok for Steve etc?

The Rita thing wasnt after the fact though. The beach scene I mentioned is the first possible swinging scene for her, Max just tells her she can fuck whoever she wants. The scene at Gemma's happens after. As for explicit consent, for some characters Max does give his full "Go ahead" to Steve, and others not.

I've read all on here that the story breaks down and lacks sense with the NTR switch off so like I said I was OK with some of the sharing etc.
Thanks for the response!

I'm guessing you read some of my previous comments, as I was one of the people who made that point, and I stand by what I said. The current development is made with NTR in mind, and "NTR off" is what remains after the cut content stitched together, sometimes not so elegantly. But thats honestly an issue with other games that do optional NTR as well. It's just easier to do than developing 2 alternative fully fledged storylines. That said, if you're thinking about dropping the game over NTR, then you should at least have the switch off and see if it suits you. Its not that the story becomes nonsensical or anything, its just that sometimes things bleed through, and character behaviour is inconsistent. But since you said you're more open minded, it shouldnt be a deal breaker for you.

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No remorse, and no particular reason she hasnt told him. Currently, the different storylines are being wrapped up, and the developer is clearly making an effort to highlight how much the girl featured in the update loves Max. Laura's update hasn't happened yet (probably gonna be one of the last), but I have no reason to belive she would push Max to the wayside.

 

[Xythurr]

The Rita thing wasnt after the fact though. The beach scene I mentioned is the first possible swinging scene for her, Max just tells her she can fuck whoever she wants. The scene at Gemma's happens after. As for explicit consent, for some characters Max does give his full "Go ahead" to Steve, and others not.


I'm guessing you read some of my previous comments, as I was one of the people who made that point, and I stand by what I said. The current development is made with NTR in mind, and "NTR off" is the remains stitched together, sometimes not so elegantly. But thats honestly an issue with other games that do optional NTR as well. It's just easier to do than developing 2 alternative fully fledged storylines. That said, if you're thinking about dropping the game over NTR, then you should at least have the switch off and see if it suits you. Its not that the story becomes nonsensical or anything, its just that sometimes things bleed through, and character behaviour is inconsistent. But since you said you're more open minded, it shouldnt be a deal breaker for you.


No remorse, and no particular reason she hasnt told him. Currently, the different storylines are being wrapped up, and the developer is clearly making and effort to highlight how much the girl featured in the update loves Max. Laura's update hasn't happened yet (probably gonna be one of the last), but I have no reason to belive she would push Max to the wayside.

Oh I wasn't referring to the beach scene in chapter 3 although I watched both choices and decided against it in my offical playthrough because she was genuinely upset about it. In both cases he does make the grand declaration of asking her to mother his kids which she happily accepts and even in the choice where they do swing she expresses doubts that it's what she wants now that she's tried it.
This is all fresh to me because I've been reading through the last couple days. Also your old posts have been quite informative and I like the questions you asked the dev so kudos!

I was talking about how right after Gemma's orgy Rita has a new plot for her movie next morning and she tells MC what happened last night with out of character glibness IMO.
I thank you again for your patience and answering my questions and if it seems a happy ending is coming that's nice. I don't feel too bad for MC because let's face it all his girls having been living with NTR switched on from the get go but at least he tries to love his family.

I do hope that the dev will follow through and make a consolidated and updated game with a more rounded out non-NTR path for those that want it like he promised but with his new game and rate of development I sadly won't hold my breathe.

Have a great day bud!

 

[MaskedAcc]

Is the concept of an open relationship just completely foreign to you people? Or do you just put it away in the big scary box labeled "NTR" and refuse to critically think about it for a second out of fear it'll turn you into a cuck?

 

[YogSothoth1982]

Is the concept of an open relationship just completely foreign to you people? Or do you just put it away in the big scary box labeled "NTR" and refuse to critically think about it for a second out of fear it'll turn you into a cuck?

You're right, an open relationship has nothing to do with netorare. For this reason, they are two completely different things that I don't like.

 

[Miin2000]

First playing , the NTR can be avoid ?

 

[Dibald88]

alvin should agree

Thank you

 

[Dibald88]

First playing , the NTR can be avoid ?

Yess, bro this game u won't regret it

 

[Dibald88]

is there a mod for ch 4?

 

[Xythurr]

is there a mod for ch 4?

No and it's not needed. There is a built-in guide and the MC is wealthy AF.

 

[Dibald88]

No and it's not needed. There is a built-in guide and the MC is wealthy AF.

okk

 

[Xythurr]

no problem! mostly from the family side since the mc is on vacation and he gave permission to the girls to satisfy their sexual desires. but has rules though no cumming inside their pussies.

So I have to revisit this now from our earlier discussion. Did you forget Junior creampied Alisia on the yacht? Or that Steve is cum dumping everyone he can?
I'm still on the second yacht trip so who knows what's next.
People either have bad memories or are intentionally spreading a lot of BS on this forum.
I will post the truth and save people doing a search about these topics a headache so they will know whether to steer clear or not.

 

[al.shm]

i see a lot talk about ntr scenes even in his discord alot people want even gangbang with max family its truly bad even as a game but if developer set a path between ntr and vanila could solved all the problems and both type players if anyone can contact with developer pls send this massage to him cuse even with ntr switch turn of game path is so fake

 

[al.shm]

in his discord can suggest about contents he see all of them even walking grandpha was one of the suggestions

 

[YogSothoth1982]

i see a lot talk about ntr scenes even in his discord alot people want even gangbang with max family its truly bad even as a game but if developer set a path between ntr and vanila could solved all the problems and both type players if anyone can contact with developer pls send this massage to him cuse even with ntr switch turn of game path is so fake

As mentioned, the Dev intends, once chapter 5 is finished and after redoing chapter 2, to make a unified version of the game where he eliminates all the NTR, sharing and any participation of guys other than the MC in the scenes.

For now I prefer to play his other game (HIBAH) while I wait for this one to finish.

 

[al.shm]

As mentioned, the Dev intends, once chapter 5 is finished and after redoing chapter 2, to make a unified version of the game where he eliminates all the NTR, sharing and any participation of guys other than the MC in the scenes.

For now I prefer to play his other game (HIBAH) while I wait for this one to finish.

pls tell me he told this or its just a guess he might do this because I played this game from the time he only started to creat chapter 1 after see this i was rly sad to see where the game goes

 

[YogSothoth1982]

pls tell me he told this or its just a guess he might do this because I played this game from the time he only started to creat chapter 1 after see this i was rly sad to see where the game goes

In fact, Dev said it in response to one of my posts.

 

[Xythurr]

In fact, Dev said it in response to one of my posts.

Over a year ago. I wouldn't hold my breath dude but I hope you're right. Speed running through 5 now and so far it's been a case study on how to destroy a good thing you've built by trying to appeal to the minority.
This guy should come to the U.S. and apply at Disney or EA's Bioware I'm sure they have a few more beloved franchises they could use further help in destroying as well!
He has the ability to create something great and the willingness to corrupt it for a small demographic. He's perfect for them!
I went to his Patreon Page and it's tiny. If the few remaining subs are the NTR guys who are whispering in his ear and pitching all this garbage on his Discord then the future of this grand project seems pretty bleak IMO.
Why rework it when you've driven you original fanbase off after betraying their expectations when they supported you for a few years when the main cash is now the NTR boys?
I think the damage is done and I'm so very thankful I didn't know about this game when it began because I would've supported and been one of the people feeling robbed.
I find it all really sad because this series had all the potential to become legendary for it's length cool characters and the author's dedication to it.
Now I think it's legacy will be pretty self-evident.
EDIT: In before someone tells me to switch NTR off read my above posts but most of this game is clearly designed with the NTR shit on and it's obvious. I play with skip un-read text disabled and went back and did a speed-run.
Most of the time he simply chops shit out and the story is weird and the characters still act weird. It's also obvious where he's putting in the character development from storylines to sex scenes.
It ain't the "vanilla" path.
If you are supporting this for the non-NTR stuff you are being ripped off IMO. He doesn't care about it and hasn't for awhile clearly.