YogSothoth1982

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i see a lot talk about ntr scenes even in his discord alot people want even gangbang with max family its truly bad even as a game but if developer set a path between ntr and vanila could solved all the problems and both type players if anyone can contact with developer pls send this massage to him cuse even with ntr switch turn of game path is so fake
As mentioned, the Dev intends, once chapter 5 is finished and after redoing chapter 2, to make a unified version of the game where he eliminates all the NTR, sharing and any participation of guys other than the MC in the scenes.

For now I prefer to play his other game (HIBAH) while I wait for this one to finish.
 
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As mentioned, the Dev intends, once chapter 5 is finished and after redoing chapter 2, to make a unified version of the game where he eliminates all the NTR, sharing and any participation of guys other than the MC in the scenes.

For now I prefer to play his other game (HIBAH) while I wait for this one to finish.
pls tell me he told this or its just a guess he might do this because I played this game from the time he only started to creat chapter 1 after see this i was rly sad to see where the game goes
 

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pls tell me he told this or its just a guess he might do this because I played this game from the time he only started to creat chapter 1 after see this i was rly sad to see where the game goes
In fact, Dev said it in response to one of my posts.
 
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In fact, Dev said it in response to one of my posts.
Over a year ago. I wouldn't hold my breath dude but I hope you're right. Speed running through 5 now and so far it's been a case study on how to destroy a good thing you've built by trying to appeal to the minority.
This guy should come to the U.S. and apply at Disney or EA's Bioware I'm sure they have a few more beloved franchises they could use further help in destroying as well!:cautious:
He has the ability to create something great and the willingness to corrupt it for a small demographic. He's perfect for them!
I went to his Patreon Page and it's tiny. If the few remaining subs are the NTR guys who are whispering in his ear and pitching all this garbage on his Discord then the future of this grand project seems pretty bleak IMO.
Why rework it when you've driven you original fanbase off after betraying their expectations when they supported you for a few years when the main cash is now the NTR boys?
I think the damage is done and I'm so very thankful I didn't know about this game when it began because I would've supported and been one of the people feeling robbed.
I find it all really sad because this series had all the potential to become legendary for it's length cool characters and the author's dedication to it.
Now I think it's legacy will be pretty self-evident.
EDIT: In before someone tells me to switch NTR off read my above posts but most of this game is clearly designed with the NTR shit on and it's obvious. I play with skip un-read text disabled and went back and did a speed-run.
Most of the time he simply chops shit out and the story is weird and the characters still act weird. It's also obvious where he's putting in the character development from storylines to sex scenes.
It ain't the "vanilla" path.
If you are supporting this for the non-NTR stuff you are being ripped off IMO. He doesn't care about it and hasn't for awhile clearly.
 
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Over a year ago. I wouldn't hold my breath dude but I hope you're right. Speed running through 5 now and so far it's been a case study on how to destroy a good thing you've built by trying to appeal to the minority.
This guy should come to the U.S. and apply at Disney or EA's Bioware I'm sure they have a few more beloved franchises they could use further help in destroying as well!:cautious:
He has the ability to create something great and the willingness to corrupt it for a small demographic. He's perfect for them!
I went to his Patreon Page and it's tiny. If the few remaining subs are the NTR guys who are whispering in his ear and pitching all this garbage on his Discord then the future of this grand project seems pretty bleak IMO.
Why rework it when you've driven you original fanbase off after betraying their expectations when they supported you for a few years when the main cash is now the NTR boys?
I think the damage is done and I'm so very thankful I didn't know about this game when it began because I would've supported and been one of the people feeling robbed.
I find it all really sad because this series had all the potential to become legendary for it's length cool characters and the author's dedication to it.
Now I think it's legacy will be pretty self-evident.
EDIT: In before someone tells me to switch NTR off read my above posts but most of this game is clearly designed with the NTR shit on and it's obvious. I play with skip un-read text disabled and went back and did a speed-run.
Most of the time he simply chops shit out and the story is weird and the characters still act weird. It's also obvious where he's putting in the character development from storylines to sex scenes.
It ain't the "vanilla" path.
If you are supporting this for the non-NTR stuff you are being ripped off IMO. He doesn't care about it and hasn't for awhile clearly.
Well, since I have no intention of paying for this game at the moment (it would be stupid to pay for something I'm not going to play), I'll keep waiting to see if he does what he said.

In the meantime I will continue with his other game, which is a harem and for now it doesn't seem like it will include anything about NTR, sharing or other guys having sex with the LIs.
 

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Well, since I have no intention of paying for this game at the moment (it would be stupid to pay for something I'm not going to play), I'll keep waiting to see if he does what he said.

In the meantime I will continue with his other game, which is a harem and for now it doesn't seem like it will include anything about NTR, sharing or other guys having sex with the LIs.
I'm surprised you still trust him. I wonder if you'll play the game after this one if after 4 years of development he suddenly has your elf waifu craving to be DPed by some big orc cock lmao!
He has already set that precedent after all.
Anyways I did a lot of research and people posted BS and outright lied to me so I intend to make sure the next person researching this game gets a straight answer.
 

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I'm surprised you still trust him. I wonder if you'll play the game after this one if after 4 years of development he suddenly has your elf waifu craving to be DPed by some big orc cock lmao!
He has already set that precedent after all.
Anyways I did a lot of research and people posted BS and outright lied to me so I intend to make sure the next person researching this game gets a straight answer.
Ok, I'm going to respond privately because this could be considered offtopic.
 
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I'm surprised you still trust him. I wonder if you'll play the game after this one if after 4 years of development he suddenly has your elf waifu craving to be DPed by some big orc cock lmao!
He has already set that precedent after all.
Anyways I did a lot of research and people posted BS and outright lied to me so I intend to make sure the next person researching this game gets a straight answer.
the only remake Ipay double is male character except max are gays and ofc Steve in first one in them
 
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Over a year ago. I wouldn't hold my breath dude but I hope you're right. Speed running through 5 now and so far it's been a case study on how to destroy a good thing you've built by trying to appeal to the minority.
This guy should come to the U.S. and apply at Disney or EA's Bioware I'm sure they have a few more beloved franchises they could use further help in destroying as well!:cautious:
He has the ability to create something great and the willingness to corrupt it for a small demographic. He's perfect for them!
I went to his Patreon Page and it's tiny. If the few remaining subs are the NTR guys who are whispering in his ear and pitching all this garbage on his Discord then the future of this grand project seems pretty bleak IMO.
Why rework it when you've driven you original fanbase off after betraying their expectations when they supported you for a few years when the main cash is now the NTR boys?
I think the damage is done and I'm so very thankful I didn't know about this game when it began because I would've supported and been one of the people feeling robbed.
I find it all really sad because this series had all the potential to become legendary for it's length cool characters and the author's dedication to it.
Now I think it's legacy will be pretty self-evident.
EDIT: In before someone tells me to switch NTR off read my above posts but most of this game is clearly designed with the NTR shit on and it's obvious. I play with skip un-read text disabled and went back and did a speed-run.
Most of the time he simply chops shit out and the story is weird and the characters still act weird. It's also obvious where he's putting in the character development from storylines to sex scenes.
It ain't the "vanilla" path.
If you are supporting this for the non-NTR stuff you are being ripped off IMO. He doesn't care about it and hasn't for awhile clearly.
The game would've died a long time ago without that added NTR-sharing stuff. Brother, Max fucked the whole town, his family, both his aunts and cousin, and his father's other family, corrupted the whole church, went into prison, and fucked his way out of there, get into the Porn industry, got a yacht and organized a sex party, stranded on an island with his half-sister fucked her there, he even has some bitches in the police force, and lots of other things I bet I'm missing. You've done tons of stuff in this game with Max, whatever you will get with Max isn't as exciting when you think he did everything.
 

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The game would've died a long time ago without that added NTR-sharing stuff. Brother, Max fucked the whole town, his family, both his aunts and cousin, and his father's other family, corrupted the whole church, went into prison, and fucked his way out of there, get into the Porn industry, got a yacht and organized a sex party, stranded on an island with his half-sister fucked her there, he even has some bitches in the police force, and lots of other things I bet I'm missing. You've done tons of stuff in this game with Max, whatever you will get with Max isn't as exciting when you think he did everything.
It's cool if that's your kink but understand that it's not for most people. Also if a game is gonna be NTR focused it should be from the beginning not suddenly added 4 years into development of a very different game people were spending their money on to support.

I do agree he went overboard with all the chicks. I wish he would've developed the family more with stories and character arcs etc.
 

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It's cool if that's your kink but understand that it's not for most people. Also if a game is gonna be NTR focused it should be from the beginning not suddenly added 4 years into development of a very different game people were spending their money on to support.

I do agree he went overboard with all the chicks. I wish he would've developed the family more etc.
Max still gets plenty of content, albeit boring compared to what's happening at home. I can understand the problems MC-only enjoyers have, you feel betrayed, but the story wasn't going anywhere if the game continued in its started path. There is a grace period for these games, and that period passed a long time ago for Vanilla only. I guess Kuggazer could've ended the story with impregnation for the main characters, and you guys would've been happy, which was another option Dev didn't take. But going with Vanilla only when every trope, every taboo with MC done and dusted would feel like beating a dead horse.
 
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Max still gets plenty of content, albeit boring compared to what's happening at home. I can understand the problems MC-only enjoyers have, you feel betrayed, but the story wasn't going anywhere if the game continued in its started path. There is a grace period for these games, and that period passed a long time ago for Vanilla only. I guess Kuggazer could've ended the story with impregnation for the main characters, and you guys would've been happy, which was another option Dev didn't take. But going with Vanilla only when every trope, every taboo with MC done and dusted would feel like beating a dead horse.
Again that's an opinion you are having. His supporters already made their thoughts known. He lost most of them so it would seem you are in the minority.
It's fine to like what you like but you ain't changing my mind or anyone else's that feels this way bud.
 
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Again that's an opinion you are having. His supporters already made their thoughts known. He lost most of them so it would seem you are in the minority.
It's fine to like what you like but you ain't changing my mind or anyone else's that feels this way bud.
Agreed. Chapter 1 remaster is by far the best part of this game. Have played through it multiple times. Could not finish chapter 2 due to bugs. Never finished chapter 3 or 4 due to NTR crap, even with it turned off, it infected the game. Not even touching chapter 5, as the game is cancer at this point, and just needs to die. Chapter 1 and first half of chapter 2 are great though. (y)
 

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Max still gets plenty of content, albeit boring compared to what's happening at home. I can understand the problems MC-only enjoyers have, you feel betrayed, but the story wasn't going anywhere if the game continued in its started path. There is a grace period for these games, and that period passed a long time ago for Vanilla only. I guess Kuggazer could've ended the story with impregnation for the main characters, and you guys would've been happy, which was another option Dev didn't take. But going with Vanilla only when every trope, every taboo with MC done and dusted would feel like beating a dead horse.
only problem we have with game is ntr sharing dont have any clear path many game have ntr but let player choose if player want that or not in this game u can turn of ntr but u cant deny it main path is ntr and u must fool ur self to play if u dont like ntr and its rly painfull second harem and ntr sharing are
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Again that's an opinion you are having. His supporters already made their thoughts known. He lost most of them so it would seem you are in the minority.
It's fine to like what you like but you ain't changing my mind or anyone else's that feels this way bud.
I'm not trying to change your, or anyone's opinion at all. I'm talking about the game's state in the game's own thread.
 

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I'm not trying to change your, or anyone's opinion at all. I'm talking about the game's state in the game's own thread.
Why are you replying to me if you're not talking to me about my post then? Seems like you're trying to convince me of something and I told you not to waste your time.
Just make a regular post if you have something generic to say.
 

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only problem we have with game is ntr sharing dont have any clear path many game have ntr but let player choose if player want that or not in this game u can turn of ntr but u cant deny it main path is ntr and u must fool ur self to play if u dont like ntr and its rly painfull second harem and ntr sharing are
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You're right, the way NTR is implemented feels wrong. Even with NTR turned off, the canon events feel like NTR is open. I really won't argue with that. The NTR toggle feels useless, it's there, you just don't see the events when it's toggled off.
 

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Why are you replying to me if you're not talking to me about my post then? Seems like you're trying to convince me of something and I told you not to waste your time.
Just make a regular post if you have something generic to say.
You need to stop with assumptions lol, you're talking about the game, I'm talking about the game, and we have different opinions and we share it. It's publicly talking about the game in the game's own thread, I don't need to change your opinion at all.
 

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You need to stop with assumptions lol, you're talking about the game, I'm talking about the game, and we have different opinions and we share it. It's publicly talking about the game in the game's own thread, I don't need to change your opinion at all.
Then stop talking at me. Thanks.
 

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Max still gets plenty of content, albeit boring compared to what's happening at home. I can understand the problems MC-only enjoyers have, you feel betrayed, but the story wasn't going anywhere if the game continued in its started path. There is a grace period for these games, and that period passed a long time ago for Vanilla only. I guess Kuggazer could've ended the story with impregnation for the main characters, and you guys would've been happy, which was another option Dev didn't take. But going with Vanilla only when every trope, every taboo with MC done and dusted would feel like beating a dead horse.
Personally, any scene where the MC doesn't participate, or where other guys participate in addition to the MC, is a scene that I don't like. So either ALL those scenes can be avoided, or the game doesn't interest me.

And for this reason I'm going to wait until see if Dev makes the modifications that he said he would make when unifying all the chapters into a single game.
 
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