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Six0

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IMO, her having a personality disorder is a copout. You don't have to put much thought or effort into character development when they don't remember anything. Plus, escalation is the bread and butter of any good incest story. So when the mom is ready to fuck him one minute, then she's a protesting prude the next without a sense of irony, you're going in circles. Her amnesia cancels out the moral degeneration process and that's supposed to be the best part.

Also, I'd rather she just be a pervy mom who wanted sex with her son from the beginning. But apparently this isn't going to be that either.
 
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kaom

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Maybe your video card does not have a proper OpenGL 2.0 implementation.
You can try, "Shift+G" when the game have started and choose "angle 2" and restart the game.
This will use the DirectX instead of OpenGL at the next startup.
Give your feedback

hey, same issue with me. I tried both fixes you recommended (changed script to 7,1,2 for additional older render options) but the animations are still choppy/laggy. did you have any other recommendations maybe?

specifically, i noticed that the animation becomes laggy in CH 3 at the movie hj scene and is consistently laggy for the rest of the game. prior animations play out smoothly.
 

Guyin Cognito

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Agreed, but what do you do when the person with
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I imagine same way as when a tall busty 15yo convinces a 27yo that she's a 19yo and then seduces him. So, basically, the public eats him alive for being a monster and then the law finds some BS technicality to let him walk, because our country only pretends to give a shit about rape or protecting women and children. Anyhoo!

That said, I'm a bit torn, because I found both the old and new plots to be uncommonly interesting. Since there's no choices to be made, I view this more as a 3rd person perspective story. So, I'm most curious to see how the MC will react when he figures out what's going on. Also, we don't technically know which one is "the real one" and which one has been around for how long. If it were me, I would spin it so that in the end it turns out the original had been dormant and trapped since the dad left, and all this leads to rescuing her from an overzealous protector-turned-usurper type. Then again, I watch a LOT of horror movies.
 
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joelurmel

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hey, same issue with me. I tried both fixes you recommended (changed script to 7,1,2 for additional older render options) but the animations are still choppy/laggy. did you have any other recommendations maybe?

specifically, i noticed that the animation becomes laggy in CH 3 at the movie hj scene and is consistently laggy for the rest of the game. prior animations play out smoothly.
In that case, the problem does not come from Ren'py or Ren'py configuration, but from the video.
Maybe there is not enough Keyframe and the PC need to calculate too much difference from the full image.
I will check and if I found a solution, I will post here or maybe Suzinak.
Because is aware of this.
 
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Oliver Wendell Homely

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You turn her down until it's clarified. I mean, we've all understood what's happening by now. MC has been living with Marge for years, it should be even more obvious to him, something like that is hard not to notice.
I don't know about you, but Marge's issues weren't apparent to me until that final scene in the current version.
 
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qchill44

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For me up to the point that the MC needed to measure his cum and his mother started the "role playing"based on his words his mother wasn't showing any sings of mental disorder, everything started after that point.
 
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Acsuka

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I don't know about you, but Marge's issues weren't apparent to me until that final scene in the current version.
Just my opinion: The mother has had a mental disorder for years and it has caused her to become attracted to her son. Her husband noticed this, but he could not handle the situation, so he left her. Over the years, love turned into tyranny and the boy was broken. And her current illness gave the mother a great opportunity to fulfill her old wishes for her son. The question is how they can handle this going forward and which personality of the mother will prevail at the end of the story. That's how I see it, but I could be wrong...
 

lonelyk

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I don't know about you, but Marge's issues weren't apparent to me until that final scene in the current version.
Sure. But MC, living with her every day for years, would not have noticed by now (unlike you) that she has different personas, and in some of them does not acknowledge their relationship? That is not credible to me.
 
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Acsuka

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Sure. But MC, living with her every day for years, would not have noticed by now (unlike you) that she has different personas, and in some of them does not acknowledge their relationship? That is not credible to me.
Not necessarily, because maybe the boy was more focused on his own problems and the fact that his father abandoned him than on his mother... We also know that the boy was always angry with his mother for being strict with him. If so, I think less that he would have cared about his mother's emotional fluctuations... And the mother's sexual desire increased after the son's illness. Everyone can see that he has a double personality now, that cannot be denied. And we see in several scenes that change always starts with a headache... :unsure:
 

Oliver Wendell Homely

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Sure. But MC, living with her every day for years, would not have noticed by now (unlike you) that she has different personas, and in some of them does not acknowledge their relationship? That is not credible to me.
Well, if "credible" is what you're looking for, then maybe don't search for that in incest-laden porn games?

But OK, let's break this down in terms of credibility. The MC "just turned 18," and is clearly sheltered. He sounds like a kid who didn't get out much and has probably never heard or read anything about personality disorders or any other kind of mental illness. He knew that his mom was "clingy" and difficult, and probably caused the dad to run away, but what young kid has the knowledge and wherewithal to diagnose his parents with mental illness? I wasn't able to put a formal name to my parents' behaviors until I was quite a bit older than 18 and didn't really come to understand them until I became a parent myself.

I get that you feel uneasy about the reveal at the end of the current version. I did, too, for the same reasons, but I don't feel like a rapist because Marge is the one who instigated the whole thing. She suggested the whole role play game. How in the world was the MC--let alone us players--supposed to see through that charade?

Having said that, depending on what happens next, I agree that continued relations between these characters could become (more) problematic.
 

Acsuka

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Well, if "credible" is what you're looking for, then maybe don't search for that in incest-laden porn games?

But OK, let's break this down in terms of credibility. The MC "just turned 18," and is clearly sheltered. He sounds like a kid who didn't get out much and has probably never heard or read anything about personality disorders or any other kind of mental illness. He knew that his mom was "clingy" and difficult, and probably caused the dad to run away, but what young kid has the knowledge and wherewithal to diagnose his parents with mental illness? I wasn't able to put a formal name to my parents' behaviors until I was quite a bit older than 18 and didn't really come to understand them until I became a parent myself.

I get that you feel uneasy about the reveal at the end of the current version. I did, too, for the same reasons, but I don't feel like a rapist because Marge is the one who instigated the whole thing. She suggested the whole role play game. How in the world was the MC--let alone us players--supposed to see through that charade?

Having said that, depending on what happens next, I agree that continued relations between these characters could become (more) problematic.
I agree and I think it is the son who has to work hard to understand his mother's behavior. He felt oppressed for years, and now suddenly his mother "gifts" him not only with love, but with a completely new experience... He gets to the point where he falls in love with his mother, and she initiates the relationship... And yes, in the last scene really confused as to what just happened...Anyone else would be asking the same question: WTF?
 

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I agree and I think it is the son who has to work hard to understand his mother's behavior. He felt oppressed for years, and now suddenly his mother "gifts" him not only with love, but with a completely new experience... He gets to the point where he falls in love with his mother, and she initiates the relationship... And yes, in the last scene really confused as to what just happened...Anyone else would be asking the same question: WTF?
I read the erotica novel oc from this story and can say that her personally disorder is a new thing, with some femdom mix that is missing completely from OC and even tho the project there hinted about an aunt and maybe other women that never came to fruition. (minus the doctor)
I like the new femdom vibe , and the godly resolution would be making this personas having distinct personalities/fetishes

A femdom mommy, a lovestruck mom/gf. A slutty mom/gf.
But I don't know if the writer is gonna follow this preset. Or is just gonna turn into a mushy lovestruck vibe.
 

Acsuka

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I read the erotica novel oc from this story and can say that her personally disorder is a new thing, with some femdom mix that is missing completely from OC and even tho the project there hinted about an aunt and maybe other women that never came to fruition. (minus the doctor)
I like the new femdom vibe , and the godly resolution would be making this personas having distinct personalities/fetishes

A femdom mommy, a lovestruck mom/gf. A slutty mom/gf.
But I don't know if the writer is gonna follow this preset. Or is just gonna turn into a mushy lovestruck vibe.
What you write is interesting...And I would also be interested to know if the boy realizes that this is no longer just a role-play, but an illness in his mother, then how will he decide...Does he help her and put his own problem in the background, or does he take advantage of his own desires to satisfy her, like a pervert... By the way, there was already a femdom mother scene in the third part, but the author cut it out afterwards...
 

majdaddin

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Needs 90% CPU to display the image "black" LOL who is this made for?

I replaced all the Movie() statements in define.rpy with Text() and now it behaves. You need to unren for that though.
 
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Asmodeus_

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But OK, let's break this down in terms of credibility. The MC "just turned 18," and is clearly sheltered. He sounds like a kid who didn't get out much and has probably never heard or read anything about personality disorders or any other kind of mental illness. He knew that his mom was "clingy" and difficult, and probably caused the dad to run away, but what young kid has the knowledge and wherewithal to diagnose his parents with mental illness? I wasn't able to put a formal name to my parents' behaviors until I was quite a bit older than 18 and didn't really come to understand them until I became a parent myself.
You're right on target with this observation and perspective, but the dad didn't run away because of her personality disorder ;)

Not sure the direction the new writer wants to go with it, but when I created the background for mom this is the logic.

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Keep in mind that this was my idea when I first created the Marge character, and I reiterate that after my departure, it's not given that this will continue to be the case. The new writer will create whatever they want. I just want to get the record straight. You're not taking advantage of a sick person :WeSmart: (she most probably taking advantage of you :D )
 

joelurmel

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hey, same issue with me. I tried both fixes you recommended (changed script to 7,1,2 for additional older render options) but the animations are still choppy/laggy. did you have any other recommendations maybe?

specifically, i noticed that the animation becomes laggy in CH 3 at the movie hj scene and is consistently laggy for the rest of the game. prior animations play out smoothly.
I've found the problem, it's due to the colorspace used for coding the video.
Suzinak have used the RGB instead of the yuv420p. Ren'Py accelerate only the yuv420p or yuv422p.
All the others formats will be slow, even if you change from OpenGL to DirectX (See the Ren'Py doc).
The solution are to transcode all the videos to the correct colorspace.

I've use : ffmpeg -y -hide_banner -loglevel warning -i .\LR3-A7.webm -pix_fmt yuv420p -crf 5 .\new\LR3-A7.webm
This will give approximately the same size in video, but reduce the CPU comsumption by 50% in any video player and in the game.

I've transcoded the black and all CH3 at 60FPS video too proove.




Extract in [game folder] and overwrite old files.
 
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kaom

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I've found the problem, it's due to the colorspace used for coding the video.
Suzinak have used the RGB instead of the yuv422p. Ren'Py accelerate only the yuv420p or yuv422p.
All the others formats will be slow, even if you change from OpenGL to DirectX (See the Ren'Py doc).
The solution are to transcode all the videos to the correct colorspace.

I've use : ffmpeg -y -hide_banner -loglevel warning -i .\LR3-A7.webm -pix_fmt yuv420p -crf 5 .\new\LR3-A7.webm
This will give approximately the same size in video, but reduce the CPU comsumption by 50% in any video player and in the game.

I've transcoded the black and all CH3 at 60FPS video too proove.


Mega

Extract in [game folder] and overwrite old files.

is this fix going to be applicable to CH 4 animations as well?
 
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