VN Ren'Py Abandoned Meeting Her [v0.3.2.1] [Verde]

[Cernunnos.]

Honestly the focus on feet in this update put me off the game. Might try it again down the line but being railroaded down that route isn't my cuppa.

 

[punisher2099]

Federico took his toy figures out of the packages which means...THEY ARE NO LONGER COLLECTABLES!!

 

[aidenboy]

Not liking Estefania. Zero respect for boundaries. However, this seems to be the direction her character is supposed to go, so props on writing that correctly, even if it is slightly obvious.
Also, Melina being a bit lippy despite showing your force earlier in the game is a bit confusing. I get defending her friend, but if some dude just threw me against the wall with his arm against my neck like that, I wouldn't be just mouthing off to him so easily. I think this is a slight flaw with her character because it makes me think she has no tact or regard for her position in the story. I'd imagine the most dire scenario like with Melissa when she was dazed in the alley. Except Melina isn't under any kind of influence so her standing up against someone who can be an obvious threat to her is just reckless. Maybe I am misunderstanding though so if someone wants to clarify that I'd be interested in understanding that a bit better.

 

[Deleted member 1571716]

Not liking Estefania. Zero respect for boundaries. However, this seems to be the direction her character is supposed to go, so props on writing that correctly, even if it is slightly obvious.
Also, Melina being a bit lippy despite showing your force earlier in the game is a bit confusing. I get defending her friend, but if some dude just threw me against the wall with his arm against my neck like that, I wouldn't be just mouthing off to him so easily. I think this is a slight flaw with her character because it makes me think she has no tact or regard for her position in the story. I'd imagine the most dire scenario like with Melissa when she was dazed in the alley. Except Melina isn't under any kind of influence so her standing up against someone who can be an obvious threat to her is just reckless. Maybe I am misunderstanding though so if someone wants to clarify that I'd be interested in understanding that a bit better.

I think it's because of what some people call a 'character flaw'. There are lots of people like this. I call it the 'reckless syndrome'. lol These personality types like to push boundaries. Regardless of the fact that someone could be a threat to them or not. It's like that kid who is shitting bricks because of a gun drawn on them, but, they just can't stfu. Depending on the situation, maybe they're trying to protect someone they care about, but, it doesn't really matter. So, yeah, you called it. It's just 'reckless'.

 

[Cornfield]

Just stumbled on this one.
The slow transition between the pages is irritating, almost as much as Estefania.
Hopefully things get better.

 

[Sngo]

rojo123

Hey hope you can clarify some of my doubts.

I was thinking on subbing the game but when I went to your patreon page I start to read your description and stumble on this :
but that isn't all, there are also other males characters that will add some humor to the story, or something more... if you want.

So you said in game notes here on f95 no NTR, so what do you mean from that you wrote in your patreon?

Well many non-NTR fans like me put sharing and swinging in the same step as NTR so is a big NO, it was swinging or sharing you were referring?
I don't sub to games with that 3 tags even if it is avoidable or not so I would like if you could enlighten me about that if possible.

Will feet fetish be forced? I really don't like feet content so avoid or skip that would be a plus, isnt a deal breaker forced feet even if I really don't like but optional would be dope.

Really hope that Fernanda is a virgin.

I really don't have a problem with Estefânia so for me nothing to say about her other than more sex with her ahah.

Mc coworker can we get a scene with him like we go hunting deep down on a forest and then we accidentally we shot him or he is eaten by a bear and he drops dead to leave the game?

Ty in advance

 

[Deleted member 39785]

cuidate, cuidate.

 

[HansDampf788]

Why does the MC think she is not? because his finger slipped in easy. why did it slip in easy? because dildos exist.

 

[Deleted member 1571716]

So, she's not a virgin. That's a shame.

 

[SeveredRealms]

I made a poll on patreon asking what they prefer. She is virgin.
Why does the MC think she is not? because his finger slipped in easy. why did it slip in easy? because dildos exist.

You really need to stop saying shit like this. Your undermining your own game. Do a poll on here I bet more would say she should be a virgin. I mean jesus she grew up in a house where she wasnt allowed to socialize or do much of anything if the story "Hasnt" changed again. So where the fuck and how the fuck would she hid a dildo from a overbearing grandmother?

 

[BTLD]

You really need to stop saying shit like this. Your undermining your own game. Do a poll on here I bet more would say she should be a virgin. I mean jesus she grew up in a house where she wasnt allowed to socialize or do much of anything if the story "Hasnt" changed again. So where the fuck and how the fuck would she hid a dildo from a overbearing grandmother?

well said

 

[SeveredRealms]

Seems like every time I come in here the story has changed. That is not the way the original story sounded at all.

 

[SeveredRealms]

The way this story started in the first release you made the grandmother sound exactly as I said. A overbearing woman that did not let her do anything then the story seemed to change update after update now your making it out like she isnt. The way this story started this girl had never been allowed to do anything but go to school and then come home and it was a struggle even to go the the neighbors where he supposed only friend was. This would mean a girl that wasnt allowed to date, wasnt allowed social interactions etc. etc. hell they had to lie just to get her to be able to leave her grandmothers house and come to the city. so tell me now how that doesnt sound like a overbearing grandmother and how this girl that wasnt allowed to do shit would not be a virgin??????????
I need to take the advice of one of my own supporters and stay away from this thread and stop trying to keep you from fucking up your game and just concentrate on writing a coherent story of my own.

 

[Deleted member 1571716]

So, rojo123 what you're saying is there's no virgins in your game? I mean, no hymen, no virgin. Despite how she lost it. I know, that's old school thinking. But, I'm old. Ahaha

 

[SeveredRealms]

3 tags that sell games in this market. Virgin, incest, harem. go check for yourself and see those are some of the top grossing games if your going into this to make a dime. Doing what a few voters on patreon say for big things like is she or is she not a virgin.... that should not even be a poll. you cant let the few on patreon dictate what the masses look for or you lose. Trust me on this I have been there done that with other games I have worked on in other genres other then adult. On my own yes I will do a poll but its simple things like choosing names. models or clothing for characters.
I have written many short stories over the years and never let what someone on patreon says I should do because I did that once and lost almost all my main supporters and others that had followed me in other ways. I am new to getting into this side of the vn world but I have played hundreds of these games. So I am now writing and rendering 2 different games and I am not letting anyone outside my main help direct my story that means no one on my patreon or SS page will make important choices for me. I see what people like and I am writing to fit that genre. My main game has a ridged story line the second is a free for all write as I go with a simple story.
Again do not do polls letting the few decide for the many as it will cost you followers and possible donators later on.

 

[Deleted member 1571716]

Originally I was planning to make Fernanda not a virgin so that her first time with the MC would be full of pleasure and lust like in DFD. and no "Slow down it hurts" like in DMD. But I wasn't entirely sure because I know most people like the idea of taking the characters' virginity.

So the easiest solution I found for these two issues (the first time with a protagonist full of lust + loose virginity with him) was make her finger or use dildos to herself (when she was living with her grandmother) before sex with Mc.


Since I'm remaking animations you would prefer deleted that finger animation? do you prefer the MC can't finger her because she's so tight?

I think you should write the game the way you want. Not what the patrons or what others want. Your way. I personally don't care if she's a virgin or not. But, when you say a character is a virgin, she needs to have her hymen intact. That's all I'm saying. But, I'm sure her ass is a virgin, so, let us take her anal virginity. Ahahaha

 

[SeveredRealms]

You really dont understand the mind of a vn player. The main characters should have the full experience not this fucked up idea. Thats what the mind of the vn player expects and thinks and not all girls losing their virginity have a lot of pain some only have it for a few seconds to a all the way till the sex stops. Going this odd messed up idea of a route has some really messed up thinking. blah I cant even make a coherent post cause i feel like im talking to a virgin thats never been with a woman at all and doesnt understand sex.

 

[BigDaddyDom]

I was planning a gay part with Santiago.
Anyway, that won't happen now.

There was also a part where Fernanda could be with someone else but most did not like the idea so it was discarded.

Good. Can you tell us now who she might have been with? Please don't say Marco

I wanted to show that the main character has anger problems, but I exaggerated and that part was badly done. As you say, Melina's reaction makes no sense. Beginner's mistake, I guess.

That would actually be ok if he rough fucked her. Sweet with daughter, hate sex with roommate.

Originally I was planning to make Fernanda not a virgin so that her first time with the MC would be full of pleasure and lust like in DFD. and no "Slow down it hurts" like in DMD. But I wasn't entirely sure because I know most people like the idea of taking the characters' virginity.

So the easiest solution I found for these two issues (the first time with a protagonist full of lust + loose virginity with him) was make her finger or use dildos to herself (when she was living with her grandmother) before sex with Mc.


Since I'm remaking animations you would prefer deleted that finger animation? do you prefer the MC can't finger her because she's so tight?

You really don't need to spend so much time defending your decision. There's really only a couple of people here getting all uppity about all this, and they won't be satisfied either way. As long as MC's daughter hasn't had a human dick in her, that's good enough for me and most people

 

[Imnus]

I did it because of a height issue. Those old positions had predefined legs somewhat bent or inclined in others not, causing her to look taller or shorter depending on the expressions. I think this is more noticeable with Lidia.

So I decided to make the same postion below her waist in all the expressions and make the changes only from the waist up.

In the last Patreon update, all the expressions of the characters were redone this way.

It may have been a mistake to do so. But for the time being they will stay like this. To remake all this will take me at least a whole week being 10 hours a day at the computer.

And right now the priority in the game is to move forward with the plot.

Maybe I'll remake them when I finish chapter one.


Lo hice por un tema de alturas. Esas posiciones viejas tenían predefinidas las piernas algo inclinadas o dobladas en otras no, provocando que se vea mas alta o mas baja dependiendo de las expresiones. Creo que esto es mas notorio con Lidia.
Así que decidí dejar de cintura para abajo el cuerpo en la misma posición en todas las expresiones y hacer los cambios solo de cintura para arriba.

En la última actualización de los Patreon, todas las expresiones de los personajes fueron re hechas de este modo.

Puede que haya sido un error haberlo hecho. Pero por el momento se quedarán así. re hacer todo esto me tomará como mínimo una semana entera estando 10 horas por día en la computadora.

Y en estos momentos la prioridad en el juego es avanzar con la trama.

Quizás los re haga cuando termine el capitulo uno.

Good work man, the game is looking great.

Don't worry about the poses, I just modified it for myself and kept the best of both worlds. But honestly the height thing wasn't really a problem, obviously your stance would change your height, that's why we erect ourselves straight when we're gonna measure it. It's true tough that some of the old poses needed some work, a few were too weird and unnatural, but most were pretty good, while some of the new ones are in fact good but in a lot of them now she looks too stiff (tiesa) .

Anyways I suggest that IF you're gonna redo them again wait a long time, because the truth it's you're gonna get a lot better with DAZ and the more you wait then the better they would end being, and since those poses are in every conversation in the game that's not a spicy scene, then when (maybe) you do redo them eventually then the whole game would feel a lot better. And try to get some feedback about it, like when it's better the new or the old one, or maybe neither and it's a combination of both, or it should be completely redone.

About the virgin thing, I honestly don't see much of a difference between a girl that lost her virginity to a dildo or to a man, for me penetration is sex, so if she penetrated herself with her dildo then she's no longer a virgin. In fact I find it quite sad that a girl loses her virginity to a dildo, and I don't see it why they would do it, girls can easily come without penetration and if she really wanted something inside her SO damn bad, just fucking look for a man, it's not that hard for girl to find a good enough man that she wants to be with, much less for someone that looks like Fernanda. I mean at the end it's not a big deal, but it is indeed something a girl can only do once, so why fucking do it with a piece of plastic.

Also why wouldn't she'll be tight anyways, it's not like a vagina gets loose that easily, a girl would need to have a ridiculous amount of sex with huge dildos for her vagina to get loose. TBH I don't even know if that even a thing or if it depends on the girl or whatever, but even with quite a bit of sex I've found pussies don't get loose, they always feel pretty damn tight when I put put my fingers inside. Hell, one girl I was with, I took her virginity, then eventually she went on vacation with her family and we didn't have sex for a little more than 15 days, and in general she was always extremely tight but when she came back and we did have sex she was as tight as the moment I took her cherry. If I were to be with a girl that was loose, I honestly would just assume that either she's a porn star, she's into fisting or she has had children.

Then maybe I don't really know, maybe I haven't been with enough girls and it varies a lot, I guess it could be that the elasticity of vaginas vary a lot from girl to girl, and when some girls start having sex (with dildos or otherwise), their pussies immediately get loose. Also how would Fernanda masturbate that much with a dildo, enough to make her loose, without her grandma finding out, isn't she super strict?

Another thing to keep in mind, that the reason virgin thing is such a thing is not really about the hymen but about purity, the thing is that the hymen is a sign of purity. Basically it means the girl can control her urges enough and wait for the right man (hopefully you), if she's so out of control that she even fucking lost her virginity to a fucking dildo, that means she'll fuck anything given the opportunity and it's not a good sign, you're gonna get cheated. I mean if a girl is constantly furiously masturbating penetrating herself with a dildo so much that she's loose, she has no fucking self-control and it's a whore in the making.

And just in case you also wanna know why purity is such a big deal for men, it's because if a girl is not pure, then she's very likely to cheat when you're in a serious relationship with her, which is very likely to eventually end in you being cuckolded, which like the worst nightmare ever for most men.

BTW I really like Santiago, but sadly the only good communist is a dead communist. So yeah, you know what we have to do.

Also, you don't have to answer me in both languages, I just knew that Spanish was your native language (like me) so I wanted to make sure you understood. But your English seems to have improved quite a bit so I'll stop with the Spanish.

Originally I was planning to make Fernanda not a virgin so that her first time with the MC would be full of pleasure and lust like in DFD. and no "Slow down it hurts" like in DMD. But I wasn't entirely sure because I know most people like the idea of taking the characters' virginity.

So the easiest solution I found for these two issues (the first time with a protagonist full of lust + loose virginity with him) was make her finger or use dildos to herself (when she was living with her grandmother) before sex with Mc.


Since I'm remaking animations you would prefer deleted that finger animation? do you prefer the MC can't finger her because she's so tight?

The "Slow down it hurts" is only really thing for like a minute or so if the girl is horny enough, the tightness it's a discomfort for them only for a little while, they get accustomed to you, pussies are pretty elastic. Honestly I never understood the one round thing with virgins, after they discover how great sex it's, they immediately want to go for a few rounds more.

And you can definitely finger the tightest pussy ever easily if the girl is wet enough, maybe you cannot go deep enough because it may hurt too much.

I think you should write the game the way you want. Not what the patrons or what others want. Your way. I personally don't care if she's a virgin or not. But, when you say a character is a virgin, she needs to have her hymen intact. That's all I'm saying. But, I'm sure her ass is a virgin, so, let us take her anal virginity. Ahahaha

This is also true man, at the end just make the game you like. If you wanted her to be not a virgin, that's OK, but the "virgin" but not really a virgin is ridiculous. It doesn't have to at all super slow weird boring sex, it can also be slow and passionate or even really hot and ateamy. In fact you can be extremely forceful and dominat with a virgin and she would like it (if she's really wants you), the truth is that most women like pain during sex, like I've never being with a girl that didn't like getting choked (it's crazy how much they like it, they like it way more than I like choking them) or spanked.

I'm gonna tell you something that happened to me. I'm not gonna write the details of how exactly I ended in this situation because it's already going to be a long ass fucking post without the background, so let's get to the point.

Well anyways, I ended kinda like "babysitting" this teen girl and her little sister. Now the older girl was (and is) extremely beautiful, her little sister too but in a child kind of pretty, while the older was more in the budding young woman kind.

Both were old enough to take care of themselves really, at least for half a day, but I was staying at their apartment so I stayed with them without their mother for an afternoon. Now the older sister was known for being very quiet and calm and extremely well behaved, it was her little sister that had the reputation of being a little annoying shit. Anyways, the fact is that day both were really fucking annoying that day and wouldn't let me watch TV in peace like I wanted, so I ended playing with them for a while, entertaining and talking and whatever, just silly stuff.

Eventually the little sister fell sleep, so I decided to go back to my room and relax a little but the older sister just wouldn't stop annoying me, she was never like this before, I actually just point blank asked her why she was being like this today, she was actually worst than her sister has ever been, almost like she has disappointed me and should be ashamed, she didn't really answer anything consequential, and just kept on pestering me relentlessly.

At that time I've quite a bit of experience, but I actually didn't understand the dynamics between men and women, how girls actually really really like older men, among other things. And the truth is that she actually wasn't that much younger than me, not really, at least not in comparison to what I accustomed now, but let's say at the time I definitely thought that a man being 5 years older than a girl was too much of gap, so nothing really untoward was crossing my mind, I mean it was obvious she was really beautiful but just about anything with her seemed super wrong for me at the time, so whatever little came up in my mind was nipped in the bud. Also, I was really stressed out at that time and even more having have to deal with them on my own all afternoon.

Anyhow at some point for some fucking reason she started trying to write on my shirt with a marker and she wouldn't stop trying no matter how many times I fend her off, this annoyance took quite a while that eventually I was really annoyed that she didn't take my warnings for her to stop seriously and in my frustration ended putting her against a wall holding both her hands very tightly almost hurting them, my intent was that being somewhat violent she would take me seriously and just fucking stop annoying me, she started to struggle to get out of my hold but in a weird way like she actually didn't really want to escape and she was kinda rubbing too much on me, plus I asked her a few times if she was gonna stop annoying me and she always said no she wasn't gonna stop and just laughed and shit like she was having a lot of fun while I was just really fucking irritated.

At some moment I don't know what actually happened, we were too close, the struggle was , but there was this intense instant when we kinda just both froze for a moment and looked at each other face, and I saw that fucking look she had, and well I don't know exactly why but I kinda went on autopilot, like I was acting in pure instinct out of my control. I think she noticed a change on my face or my behaviour or something, because there was something like fear now in her face and she stopped laughing the same way, she kept laughing but like she was trying to suppress them or something.

She kept trying to struggle out of my grasp but without any real intent to actually escape despite her pleas, I felt. At some point she kinda turned a little and it ended with me turning her completely around still holding her hands over her head, and this time really crushed her against the wall, I think at this point I was overwhelmed with lust and somehow I felt her was the same, I was completely lost in the moment. I started feeling her body and fondling her aggressively and she mostly jut moaned without saying anything coherent but still kinda struggled to free herself.

Soon after I pulled her short and panties in one swoop, felt her pussy up, realized she was wet as fuck, rubbed her for a little while then took my cock out and started rubbing it against her ass while playing with her pussy, while all of this was happening she was kinda still struggling and started pleading for me to let her go, but it honestly felt it was more for show and her weak "we can't do this", "please", "stop" were completely drown in moaning and grunting, in fact the "please" I didn't know it was intended for me stop or to continue.

I didn't even know she was a virgin and honestly I couldn't even tell for sure when I penetrated her, I mean she was extremely tight but I did it with such force and speed that went almost balls deep in the first try, there was some poking around in her entrance first but when I really went for it I struck gold. Later I found out because she bled and I asked about it and she told me that she had never have sex before.

Guess what else I found after, she came exactly the moment I penetrated her, and many times more after. It was all incredibly hot for both of us, definitely "full of pleasure and lust". She also told me the whole experience was really confusing for her, at the same time she was a little mad that I was so forceful with her but she was so taken by lust that she didn't care at all that I treated her like a slut during her first time, in fact she loved it. She was very confused because she wanted me to let her go but at the same time she didn't want to escape, she was very scared but also really excited (as in having fun) and really fucking horny and wet like never before.

BTW, I ended cumming inside her, I was so lost into it that at no moment I ever thought of stopping and cumming outside. Even after that I was still in such a crazed mode that I made her go down on me and clean her own blood and the mixture of our juices off me, and I intended to make her give me a full blowjob just right there. But clearly she didn't know what she was doing, I mean it was good enough to get me really hard again but not to make me cum. So we went to her room, so her sister wouldn't find us if she woke up, we kept fucking like crazy and we only stopped because we noticed her little sister has woke up.


I went into a lot more detail than I intended, but whatever the point I'm trying to make it's that very obviously a girl being an actual virgin doesn't exclude that her first time would be full of pleasure and lust. In your history you could work something like that, I obviously don't know exactly how it will go, but maybe I could give you some ideas.

Like for example maybe she would find out her father doing something with her best friend, and this would make her really jealous and mad that he's actually trying to do what she asked of him and trying to not pursuit her in anyway, she realizes that she actually hates not getting sexual attention from him while every other hot girl is (and she's pretty damn hot too, so she deserves it).

She needs his attention (sexual or otherwise) more than anything else in the world. So, she'll tease him non stop because she cannot help herself, she just wants her her daddy's attention, she wants to make her daddy hard as fuck, she doesn't even really mind him getting his release from other women, because as much as she wants to, she cannot give it to him no matter what, it's so fucking wrong but at least she can maybe peep on him and then furiously masturbate (please NO with dildos, pretty please) to it when she used to be a good girl that (almost) never played with herself before, and now she cannot stop.

She'll even encourage him to keep fucking her best friend, not openly but she'll facilitate it somehow, because her father fucking her best friend is the closest he will be to actually fucking her own daughter, and she knows it's super duper wrong and it cannot happen, but she cannot help herself getting her fill somehow. She's actually realizing she really enjoys watching her father fuck other girls, she really enjoys when he fills their pussies with his cum (she really wonders how it tastes like, how could she find out?). Now if only he would do the same to her, but it's so wrong, it cannot happen, blah, blah, blah.

Then at some point the MC could just fucking lose it with all the endless teasing and innuendo, and end just taking her and putting her in her place as punishment for all that torture, giving her all she ever really wanted and she wouldn't be able (or want) to stop him. Then they really need to make up for all the time wasted and have lots of fun with all the girls.

All this of course immersed with all the plots you have in mind for the game of course.

Then you decide if you want to keep going forever like DMD or make a new game.

Good. Can you tell us now who she might have been with? Please don't say Marco

That would actually be ok if he rough fucked her. Sweet with daughter, hate sex with roommate.

You really don't need to spend so much time defending your decision. There's really only a couple of people here getting all uppity about all this, and they won't be satisfied either way. As long as MC's daughter hasn't had a human dick in her, that's good enough for me and most people

He's asking for feedback, so I think we can give it to him. It may make the game better or not, it's for him to decide.

Also, yes not virgin is better that real dick in her, just like one or two it's better than ten, and ten it's better than a hundred but in the end what's the ideal, really? Hell, it's fantasy anyway, why not have the ideal as long as it's believable for the story, for example she's 18 so the idea that she knows nothing about sex or had any sexual thoughts whatsoever it's not really believable but maybe those thoughts were nothing too intense until she met her father, maybe she touched herself before but couldn't even reach orgasm and now that's when it got really hot for her and she managed to get her first release. It could be something like that as long as it makes sense.

If you're gonna lose your virginity to a piece of plastic, just fucking have the real thing. Honestly, I just really think the idea of losing her virginity to a dildo really silly, plus I don't like dildos at all, it's a deal breaker for me. And I honestly wouldn't have a sex doll or a fake pussy or whatever they're called (I can't remember, right now). They just seem like cheap replacements.

Or again she could just be a mega slut that have had all kind of dick, and her father's is jut another one to add to the notch. And honestly whore games actually work just like regular porn, almost every man wants to fuck a porn actress, but how many wants to have a serious realtionship with them, how their life turn out after their career when they want a serious relationship and maybe a family, how a lot of them regret doing porn.

At the end the devs decides what's best for his game.

 

[stoped]

Good work man, the game is looking great.

etc.

Please don't listen to anything this guy just said.

1. No, just because a woman has had sex before it doesn't mean she'll cheat. That's just stupid.
2. There are plenty of good reasons a woman would use a dildo instead of having sex. It's not a waste of anything. And masturbation is not sex regardless of what implements are used to do it.
3. It's not a binary choice between sweet, pure virgin and mega slut. Normal people have a normal amount of sex with a normal amount of partners throughout their lives AND, a lot of them manage to stay faithful to whomever their current partner is while they are in a committed relationship.

He is right that vaginas don't get loose, really. Not through sex, anyway. That's a myth.