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Is this worth playing yet or is it still a massive tease? Last I played was v0.7 and I got bored to hell with the music lessons... lol
 

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Amy is Melody's aunt. That would be the incest.
i don't know if aunt counts as blood related. Cousin is definitively NOT. Incest is Grandma/grandpa + Mom/dad + sister/brother. I think aunt is ok
 

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Is this worth playing yet or is it still a massive tease? Last I played was v0.7 and I got bored to hell with the music lessons... lol
well - as it's content finished, it would be a shame if it's "a tease" XD - but end of the month the final version with additional scenes and overworked scenes will be out. Then Melody is over and they start a new game besides DMD
 

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well - as it's content finished, it would be a shame if it's "a tease" XD - but end of the month the final version with additional scenes and overworked scenes will be out. Then Melody is over and they start a new game besides DMD
Final version is next month? Fair enough haha, thanks!
 

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i don't know if aunt counts as blood related. Cousin is definitively NOT. Incest is Grandma/grandpa + Mom/dad + sister/brother. I think aunt is ok
I'm not sure what your sources are, but incest has different levels of inclusion or exclusion by region. A cousin can be fully included, excluded, or in a hazy middle-ground depending on where you ask.

As for blood related, Aunts and Uncles generally come in pairs where 1 most definitely is blood related and 1 most definitely is not (as they are a married couple and one "joined the family" by this marriage contract). Two siblings share about the same amount of genetic material with each other as does a parent-child pair. What this means is, a grandchild, on average, shares the same amount of genetics with a grandparent as it does with a blood-aunt (ballpark of 25%). grandparent-grandchild versus aunt/uncle-niece/nephew equals the exact same thing. The grandparent thing has the additional taboo of extreme age difference, but that's a whole separate issue. From a genetic comparison of "inbreeding" there is no difference (although I'll grant it gets even more muddy when same-sex partners come into play, as the inability to produce offspring from the pairing completely invalidates the primary purpose for the laws/stigma).
 
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I'm not sure what your sources are, but incest has different levels of inclusion or exclusion by region. A cousin can be fully included, excluded, or in a hazy middle-ground depending on where you ask.

As for blood related, Aunts and Uncles generally come in pairs where 1 most definitely is blood related and 1 most definitely is not (as they are a married couple and one "joined the family" by this marriage contract). Two siblings share about the same amount of genetic material with each other as does a parent-child pair. What this means is, a grandchild, on average, shares the same amount of genetics with a grandparent as it does with a blood-aunt (ballpark of 25%). grandparent-grandchild versus aunt/uncle-niece/nephew equals the exact same thing. The grandparent thing has the additional taboo of extreme age difference, but that's a whole separate issue. From a genetic comparison of "inbreeding" there is no difference (although I'll grant it gets even more muddy when same-sex partners come into play, as the inability to produce offspring from the pairing completely invalidates the primary purpose for the laws/stigma).
well, you are right. nevertheless cousin relations are legal over here.
besides that, grandparrent is not that impossible (also not due to age) -> example: get child at 16, which get a child at 16 -> result in being grandparrent at 32. waiting for 16 years again results in an 16 year old teenager looking to 48 year old woman (which can still hardly be called a MILF).
But the main thing is:
- man having sex with a girl is fine
- man having sex with her mother is also fine
- man having sex with both at same time is also fine (no law against that)
-> the only question: does a man having sex with 2 women at same time automaticially means that these 2 women also have sex with each other?

=> and mainly incest is seen as sexual reproduction (vaginal sex between man and women) - so is it possible to have incest between 2 women/men at all?

weird situation and honestly i don't know how a judge would decide XD

EDIT: Wikipedia says
Laws regarding incest (i.e. between family members or close relatives) vary considerably between jurisdictions, and depend on the type of sexual activity and the nature of the family relationship of the parties involved, as well as the age and sex of the parties. Besides legal prohibitions, at least some forms of are also socially taboo or frowned upon in most cultures around the world.

so there is mentioned that it depends on the type of activity (penetration ???) and the sex of the parties (between same sex != incest ???)

so i guess it would be a social taboo maybe, depending where you live or what religion you are, but not incest as it's mainly meaning

EDIT2: see also:

Aunts, uncles, nieces or nephews[ ]
See also:
In the , marrying one's nephew or niece is legal, but only with the explicit permission of the Dutch Government, due to the possible risk of among the offspring. Nephew-niece marriages predominantly occur among foreign immigrants. In November 2008, the Christian Democratic (CDA) party's Scientific Institute announced that it wanted a ban on marriages to nephews and nieces.

Consensual sex between adults (persons of 18 years and older) is always lawful in the Netherlands and Belgium, even among closely related family members. Sexual acts between an adult family member and a minor are illegal, though they are not classified as incest, but as abuse of the authority such an adult has over a minor, comparable to that of a teacher, coach or priest.

In Florida, consensual adult sexual intercourse with someone known to be your aunt, uncle, niece or nephew constitutes a felony of the third degree. Other states also commonly prohibit marriages between such kin. The legality of sex with a half-aunt or half-uncle varies state by state.

In the United Kingdom, incest includes only sexual intercourse with a parent, grandparent, child or sibling, but the more recently introduced offence of "sex with an adult relative" extends also as far as half-siblings, uncles, aunts, nephews and nieces. However, the term 'incest' remains widely used in popular culture to describe any form of sexual activity with a relative. In Canada, marriage between uncles and nieces and between aunts and nephews is legal.
 
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But now let's go back to Topic:
This is still a "Melody" thread ;)
 

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well, you are right. nevertheless cousin relations are legal over here.
besides that, grandparrent is not that impossible (also not due to age) -> example: get child at 16, which get a child at 16 -> result in being grandparrent at 32. waiting for 16 years again results in an 16 year old teenager looking to 48 year old woman (which can still hardly be called a MILF).
But the main thing is:
- man having sex with a girl is fine
- man having sex with her mother is also fine
- man having sex with both at same time is also fine (no law against that)
-> the only question: does a man having sex with 2 women at same time automaticially means that these 2 women also have sex with each other?

=> and mainly incest is seen as sexual reproduction (vaginal sex between man and women) - so is it possible to have incest between 2 women/men at all?

weird situation and honestly i don't know how a judge would decide XD

EDIT: Wikipedia says
Laws regarding incest (i.e. between family members or close relatives) vary considerably between jurisdictions, and depend on the type of sexual activity and the nature of the family relationship of the parties involved, as well as the age and sex of the parties. Besides legal prohibitions, at least some forms of are also socially taboo or frowned upon in most cultures around the world.

so there is mentioned that it depends on the type of activity (penetration ???) and the sex of the parties (between same sex != incest ???)

so i guess it would be a social taboo maybe, depending where you live or what religion you are, but not incest as it's mainly meaning
Not quite what that quote says. That quote says that laws vary from region to region, and that the type of activity that is covered by the law also varies from region to region. For that matter, the wikipedia entry specifically makes mention that "blood" isn't even necessary in some regions. Sometimes "those related by affinity (marriage or stepfamily), adoption, clan, or lineage" fall within the confines of the incest law of that locality.

Bottom line, some places it likely IS incest, and some places likely it IS NOT. (And as for the money-making platforms that added rules to exclude content in this category, they tend to err on the side of including more than is necessary, rather than possibly fall short. Which means, for the purposes of game makers, yes, these questionable cases must also be excluded from their project.)

But that's far too much talk that is not about Melody. So, back to the regularly scheduled discussion (at least as far as I am concerned).
 

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But that's far too much talk that is not about Melody. So, back to the regularly scheduled discussion (at least as far as I am concerned).
exactly what i said - it might be a good info for some over here (just in case they do care XD), but now we should go to topic (was a nice exchange nevertheless)
 

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On a more Melody related note, it's been quite a while since I played it. I don't recall Amy being an aunt being of any consequence. The game could easily relabel her as the "mom's best friend". At that point it could be included without any fear (although there seem to be some loudly outspoken people who complain every time 2 people have sex in games, but are not blood related).

But, of course, that is the developer's choice. How are characters related, and who will or won't go down that path.
 

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On a more Melody related note....
exactly an that note:
Melody was ever meant as a story of a girl, making through to get her career as a professional singer.
The sexual content was a wanted side effect of course.
Melody was never meant to tell a story of a girl who makes all possible sexual experiences (neither normal ones, nor incest or any others) and "nearby" get a singer. So from virgin to incest a 3-some is really not "feeling right" for that story imho.

Once again:
MrDots Melody is a STORY with sexual content, and NOT like a porn, just sexual content of each kind wrapped by something like a story!
And for those who still don't agree or don't like this fact: their fault - i don't care... It's like buying a bottle of beer and complaining for not get drunk by telling that you could get drunk by a bottle of whisky, because both contain alcohol (hope you get, what i mean ;) )
 
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