Ren'Py Completed Midnight Paradise [v1.0f Extra] [Lewdlab]

[Deleted member 874763]

I know people are always impatient for updates but developing a game is some serious sh*t. You should pay some more respect and try not push developers hard. Good contents always need time !

 

[Walg]

And there will be people like you who defend the devs so it all equals out

It never evens out and all I suggest is for people to try being a dev for a week or so and see what a dev actually does. If you could pull that off properly then kudos you're more than welcome to provide constructive criticism here but there's a reason why there's very few devs who can consistently pull off high quality VN's....

I'm not being negative but dev should just say something like mid/late said month not put up a deadline and almost never be able to meet it

I was referring to Clockwork's post but you're right devs should post a range or a date they can meet. It can also be used for motivation from a dev's point of view too.

I know people are always impatient for updates but developing a game is some serious sh*t. You should pay some more respect and try not push developers hard. Good contents always need time !

Basically this I continue to say to non-dev's go try your hand at being a dev then see if that changes your opinion...

 

[JayBog]

I know people are always impatient for updates but developing a game is some serious sh*t. You should pay some more respect and try not push developers hard. Good contents always need time !

Exactly! I prefer to wait longer and have good content than faster update but have a half-ass mediocre shitty content.

 

[muttdoggy]

Chill out with the hysteria over the release date/time. Any more trolling or baiting posts will be deleted without explanation. Same for meme posts, asking for the release, and even those posts asking when it's released will be deleted.This thread is starting to go off the rails and turn into a cesspool over a release time frame. It stops now.

 

[Deleted member 396172]

bravo !

 

[Aldnoah Zero]

(This thread is starting to go off the rails and turn into a cesspool over a release time frame. It stops now.)

Unfortunately, circumstances helped with the turn of the year and holidays, the beginning of 2019 was very troubled ..
The delays (justified or not, are getting longer and longer, and many patreons or not, were accustomed an update every 30 days)
Lewdlab was a good example and rarely delayed and quality always impressed ..

A quarantine for now becomes useful, the fight escalated in such a way, that I do not doubt that Devs begin to threaten withdraw their games from here ..
And probably many patreons are using the forum as an escape valve, instead of official pages (rarely seen negative comments there) and the fault falls here too.
Appealing for censorship sucks, but discussions have been migrating to other games like virus...
It's hard not to support a forced truce! (Even for a while)
Ps ... mc in the main banner looks like the lead singer of depech mode (when young, until the haircut )

 

[Goülberch]

i fully support a censorship for this thread

 

[Monica]

I love lewdlab. I know he is making his best efforts in releasing the game on time which is not an easy task. I just request him to make this wait worth by releasing enough content especially on MOM. I am dying to see her, espescially her bubble butts and seductive face!

 

[Deleted member 396172]

anyways , we forced to w8 so , i love lewldab to , i hope he will releasing the update soon .
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[Hyped]

It never evens out and all I suggest is for people to try being a dev for a week or so and see what a dev actually does. If you could pull that off properly then kudos you're more than welcome to provide constructive criticism here but there's a reason why there's very few devs who can consistently pull off high quality VN's....



I was referring to Clockwork's post but you're right devs should post a range or a date they can meet. It can also be used for motivation from a dev's point of view too.



Basically this I continue to say to non-dev's go try your hand at being a dev then see if that changes your opinion...

The problem is this isn't some rogue starving dev. He's one of the more successful indie devs, porn or not. Making close to half a million dollars a year.

The frustration is that he's hoarding all the money to himself instead of hiring a team that would help release this faster. Because he's now got the resources to do so.

Someone on this thread did an analysis of the code and debunked the dev's claim that he has a team of coders. This release will reveal the truth. Let's see if he delivers on the content and gameplay that he's been promising for a while.

 

[goobdoob]

The problem is this isn't some rogue starving dev. He's one of the more successful indie devs, porn or not. Making close to half a million dollars a year.

The frustration is that he's hoarding all the money to himself instead of hiring a team that would help release this faster. Because he's now got the resources to do so.

Someone on this thread did an analysis of the code and debunked the dev's claim that he has a team of coders. This release will reveal the truth. Let's see if he delivers on the content and gameplay that he's been promising for a while.

Bad code doesn't mean he hasn't hired coders. It could mean that he's hired bad coders.

Also, "someone on this thread did..." is anecdotal; you really should provide a link.

 

[Hyped]

Bad code doesn't mean he hasn't hired coders. It could mean that he's hired bad coders.

Also, "someone on this thread did..." is anecdotal; you really should provide a link.

Bad code that seemed to be written by a single dev.

It's not just the code though, he claims to be doing the renders himself, when he could hire someone to help out, like icstor or palmer does. He's got a few signature render and lighting techniques that would take 5 minutes to explain to another daz expert.

 

[Alexinho77]

I’m willing to bet if this update doesn’t deliver after so many delays, that there won’t be a 3rd update and this will be the end of midnight

 

[cold_arctus]

Someone on this thread did an analysis of the code and debunked the dev's claim that he has a team of coders.

You are misinformed about that. I'm one of them, who took a brief look into the "code" and found information about Adventure Creator there, but I never "analysis" the code (maybe someone else did). However, this is not an evidence that dev's statement about having two coders isn't correct. The clusterfuck of the beta version just implies, that either the code or Adventure Creator isn't good. Which lead me to assume that his coders aren't good or doesn't exist at all.

It's not just the code though, he claims to be doing the renders himself, when he could hire someone to help out, like icstor or palmer does

You got a source for your claims about Icstor and Palmer? And to be honest, Dr. Sins (lewdlab) renders are topnotch, a second artist would maybe not have the same skills as him.

He's got a few signature render and lighting techniques that would take 5 minutes to explain to another daz expert.

Are you a daz expert? How do you know, that it only takes 5 minutes to explain someone how setting a scene including the right light etc. works? I talked to a few artist (maybe future devs of their own games) about scene and light setting etc.. and all of them told me the same: Creating a scene isn't as easy as people think it is.

If you want to take a glimpse into scene creation, I can recommend Dr. Amana, Sexual Therapist Dev, who regular streams his work. There you will see how long it really takes to create a scene.

Another advice from me: Stop spamming this thread with your repeated negativity towards the dev. We can discuss the game, the engine etc. here but we should not accuse the dev for things we pirates do not pay for. Or sooner or later this thread turns into another toxic thread, like A Wife and Mother, where the dev no longer communicates with his gamers.

If you are not happy how the Midnight Paradise turned out, stop playing it or become a $1 patron and tell him this on his discord/Patreon page.

 

[Hyped]

If you are not happy how the Midnight Paradise turned out, stop playing it or become a $1 patron and tell him this on his discord/Patreon page.

So you're suggesting that if we have genuine criticisms about the game or the dev's process, we shouldn't do it here on a public forum that supports free speech?

There's no unwarranted negativity imo. He's a top 10 dev with 3000 patrons, and a giant dev with that much support and influence should welcome a little criticism, especially if the product isn't as good as it should be. He's doing fine without your dollar and defense.

You got a source for your claims about Icstor and Palmer? And to be honest, Dr. Sins (lewdlab) renders are topnotch, a second artist would maybe not have the same skills as him.

I believe museX was hired to do the renders for DFD. Seen multiple posts from him seeking artists. LL's renders are great, but there's no reason to believe he couldn't teach it to someone else. Or at the very least create a process where someone does the scene setups and he could do the lighting and textures. No reason he has to do it all himself.

 

[Goülberch]

So you're suggesting that if I have genuine criticisms about the game or the dev's process, I shouldn't do it here on a public forum that supports free speech?

There's no unwarranted negativity imo. He's a top 10 dev with 3000 patrons, and a giant dev with that much support and influence should welcome a little criticism, especially if the product isn't as good as it should be. He's doing fine without your dollar and defense.


I believe museX was hired to do the renders for DFD. Seen multiple posts from him seeking artists. LL's renders are great, but there's no reason to believe he couldn't teach it to someone else. Or at the very least create a process where someone does the scene setups and he could do the lighting and textures. No reason he has to do it all himself.

well they are criticizing your criticisms and i hope Lewdlab never takes any criticisms from people who pirate his games.

 

[UncleVT]

We still waiting for the "genuine criticisms"

 

[Hyped]

well they are criticizing your criticisms and i hope Lewdlab never takes any criticisms from people who pirate his games.

It's a fair discussion. Fwiw, I'm a fan of the dev and was a patron during DOD. I would love it if devs do their thing and not be bothered by any criticism.
But why should we have to curb our thoughts fearing for the dev's feelings.

 

[cold_arctus]

So you're suggesting that if I have genuine criticisms about the game or the dev's process, I shouldn't do it here on a public forum that supports free speech?

There's no unwarranted negativity imo. He's a top 10 dev with 3000 patrons, and a giant dev with that much support and influence should welcome a little criticism, especially if the product isn't as good as it should be. He's doing fine without your dollar and defense.

Of course you can criticize him and his work, but at lease provide proof for your critics and claims. Without any proof your "critics" are nothing more as bad mouth talking.

Let us turn this thread into something good, where maybe Lewdlab will come and discuss things with us, instead turning his back on us!

 

[Arius Zauber]

Criticism itself is not bad, it allows you to improve quality of certain things, but only if you point the author to specific errors so that he can correct them, and not when you just complain about what you do not like and at the same time even without delving into the essence.