Qixoni

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Ok, now that you finally starting to understand that, all you have to do next is to realise that there is literally nothing you can do to stop it and live with it. Treat it like an early retirement pay.
Incestor has had his run, he finished his duty and now he gets to keep the money as a reward.
He serves as a motivation for fresh new devs who will come seeking fortune as he once was, the end.
The lack of good comunication is a killer. It creates distrust. Sometimes a a real distrust, sometimes unjustifiable, still, it all comes down to the same problem, communication and lack there off.
Then you have guys like L&P, sure, the game is absolutely not abandoned, but when you take almost an year to create half a day of content and you see at this pace if such a game will ever be concluded wll be in 20 years, well, i don´t think this is better and more honest.
Dreams of Desire is a fantastic game and it´s completed and now hopefully a remastered version will come out, so at least Lewdlab has something of quality to present in the next weeks. Is it enough considering the state of Midnight Paradise? No it is not, but that´s what communication is for
 
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The lack of good comunication is a killer. It creates distrust. Sometimes a a real distrust, sometimes unjustifiable, still, it all comes down to the same problem, communication and lack there off.
Then you have guys like L&P, sure, the game is absolutely not abandoned, but when you take almost an year to create half a day of content and you see at this pace if such a game will ever be concluded wll be in 20 years, well, i don´t think this is better and more honest.
Dreams of Desire is a fantastic game and it´s completed and now hopefully a remastered version will come out, so at least Lewdlab has something of quality to present in the next weeks. Is it enough considering the state of Midnight Paradise? No it is not, but that´s what communication is for
Sometimes even the lack of communication can be insightful.
If somebody doesn't answer your question, they either don't know the answer or they know you wouldn't like it so they keep their mouth shut.
 
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It's just getting ridiculous at the moment. There is always some excuses. ”Oh I have this bad back issue, went to doctor and all, can’t work for couple of weeks.” After that it was ”oh me and my girlfriend got covid, I can’t work because of this for couple of weeks.” This dev has had too many health issues already during his dev history. Let’s be real here, the whole covid stuff was most likely made up just to delay the MP update release from the last weekend of March to April so he could get a paycheck for April and prevent people from unpledging him right after dropping the MP update at the end of the month. And also to use covids after symptoms as a reason why he can’t work as efficiently as before, as he has done.

Then he had this ”oh my translators have been missing in action, that’s why DoD DE is not progressing at all” excuse, while he hadn’t even started doing the new scenes for it yet. He tries to talk as little as possible about it, even after multiple promises of ”weekly posts” or ”multiple posts in a week”. This man has been a decent communicator during his dev career, and now suddenly he just drops dead silent, even in his own Discord? What are you even doing, that's not how you market your products, god damn.

And there has been multiple promises of previews from DoD DE, but none of them has actually been seen after January. No, one single render as a post headliner is not a fucking preview. Suddenly always when those preview posts should be put up, the man just vanishes and comes back in a few weeks with ”news” posts without any previews of his work. However he gladly takes the paycheck every month without giving back to patrons any sight of his work. When he was actually working on MP 0.14 update, he gave weekly posts with previews and he spoke to his patrons. Why not do the same now, huh? Don't just tell people you are doing some promo stuff for DoD DE, show glimpses of that promo work to your audience who are paying your living.

He has been working on MP for 2.5 years, and now during the last half a year of that production he has made only one update for it. Instead of focusing on his WiP project, he went back to beating a dead horse, a game that was finished over two years ago. I understand, as a dev he wasn't happy how that game was, but instead of focusing on that at the middle of the progress of MP he should've finished this one first, and then go back to milk money again with DoD. Now he just created a shit show for himself that will bite him in the ass sooner or later.
 

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It's just getting ridiculous at the moment. There is always some excuses. ”Oh I have this bad back issue, went to doctor and all, can’t work for couple of weeks.” After that it was ”oh me and my girlfriend got covid, I can’t work because of this for couple of weeks.” This dev has had too many health issues already during his dev history. Let’s be real here, the whole covid stuff was most likely made up just to delay the MP update release from the last weekend of March to April so he could get a paycheck for April and prevent people from unpledging him right after dropping the MP update at the end of the month. And also to use covids after symptoms as a reason why he can’t work as efficiently as before, as he has done.

Then he had this ”oh my translators have been missing in action, that’s why DoD DE is not progressing at all” excuse, while he hadn’t even started doing the new scenes for it yet. He tries to talk as little as possible about it, even after multiple promises of ”weekly posts” or ”multiple posts in a week”. This man has been a decent communicator during his dev career, and now suddenly he just drops dead silent, even in his own Discord? What are you even doing, that's not how you market your products, god damn.

And there has been multiple promises of previews from DoD DE, but none of them has actually been seen after January. No, one single render as a post headliner is not a fucking preview. Suddenly always when those preview posts should be put up, the man just vanishes and comes back in a few weeks with ”news” posts without any previews of his work. However he gladly takes the paycheck every month without giving back to patrons any sight of his work. When he was actually working on MP 0.14 update, he gave weekly posts with previews and he spoke to his patrons. Why not do the same now, huh? Don't just tell people you are doing some promo stuff for DoD DE, show glimpses of that promo work to your audience who are paying your living.

He has been working on MP for 2.5 years, and now during the last half a year of that production he has made only one update for it. Instead of focusing on his WiP project, he went back to beating a dead horse, a game that was finished over two years ago. I understand, as a dev he wasn't happy how that game was, but instead of focusing on that at the middle of the progress of MP he should've finished this one first, and then go back to milk money again with DoD. Now he just created a shit show for himself that will bite him in the ass sooner or later.
So, that means that after all this wait is not due to waiting for the Steam approval? Man, that really sucks balls.
 
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If you load all these stuff for free, you don’t need to complain about anything.
It's not complaining if you expose the bullshit from the dev and make other people also aware of it. His patrons are not questioning his actions at all, even though they are getting played the exact similar way as ICSTOR's patrons are. So please, don't come here and try to shut down the criticism towards this devs bullshit and lies with that kind of yada yada that you just wrote.
 

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It's not complaining if you expose the bullshit from the dev and make other people also aware of it. His patrons are not questioning his actions at all, even though they are getting played the exact similar way as ICSTOR's patrons are. So please, don't come here and try to shut down the criticism towards this devs bullshit and lies with that kind of yada yada that you just wrote.
I think you missunderstand me, but of course we have different interpretations of what people are writing or saying.
To make it short: I have the same opinion like you (well I think so), but that´s why I stoped paying him or Icstor money long time ago. Now, I don´t think that I´m in the position to tell him anything, because he isn´t working for me or for my money. Of course I can complain, but it´s not effective. The most effective way is to stop paying for that. If the patrons don´t do that, well then the situation will not change. So, please calm down and stay cool. You don´t need to attack me, because i didn´t do it either. We are sitting in the same boat.
 
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I think you missunderstand me, but of course we have different interpretations of what people are writing or saying.
To make it short: I have the same opinion like you (well I think so), but that´s why I stoped paying him or Icstor money long time ago. Now, I don´t think that I´m in the position to tell him anything, because he isn´t working for me or for my money. Of course I can complain, but it´s not effective. The most effective way is to stop paying for that. If the patrons don´t do that, well then the situation will not change.
The misunderstanding comes from the difference of what we are trying to reach here and by the usage of word "complain", since stating the facts and exposing the devs lies is not complaining. Complaining would be bitchy comments about blue balling, the lack of h-scenes in the game or about the hairstyle of specific character. For you it seems like we are trying to impact the dev with our posts, but that is actually far from the truth. We all have stopped paying for these devs, but does that still prevent us from stating the facts in this thread, which original post has the dev himself, to let other possible new customers know to skip this guy also, just like ICSTOR? No, no it doesn't prevent us from doing that. That's what we are doing, not trying to impact on the dev, but other forum users, new people, so there could one day maybe be a change. But stating that someone is "complaining" when they are stating the evident facts of the dev's bullshit is literally reducing the impact of stating those facts for those people. That's why I answered you so harshly, because by using the words like "complain" to describe what others are doing, you are actually hurting the process of letting new people know that at the moment this guy is full of shit and not worth of a single dollar.
 

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The misunderstanding comes from the difference of what we are trying to reach here and by the usage of word "complain", since stating the facts and exposing the devs lies is not complaining. Complaining would be bitchy comments about blue balling, the lack of h-scenes in the game or about the hairstyle of specific character. For you it seems like we are trying to impact the dev with our posts, but that is actually far from the truth. We all have stopped paying for these devs, but does that still prevent us from stating the facts in this thread, which original post has the dev himself, to let other possible new customers know to skip this guy also, just like ICSTOR? No, no it doesn't prevent us from doing that. That's what we are doing, not trying to impact on the dev, but other forum users, new people, so there could one day maybe be a change. But stating that someone is "complaining" when they are stating the evident facts of the dev's bullshit is literally reducing the impact of stating those facts for those people. That's why I answered you so harshly, because by using the words like "complain" to describe what others are doing, you are actually hurting the process of letting new people know that at the moment this guy is full of shit and not worth of a single dollar.
You are right, sorry that my comment went in the wrong direction! (y) I hope everyting is cool, now. From your POV, it really makes sence to expose and state all the lies, bad communication staly, etc. (y)
 

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I really liked Dreams of Desire. I've been keeping an eye on this game too. I was going to try it now, but after reading the last few pages of comments, i think i'll just wait another year or so.

It doesn't help that it's a sandbox game either, i've not found many games on this site where a 'sandbox' actually adds anything good to a game, most of the time it's just annoying and useless.

It's a shame really, after DoD i was kind of looking forward to lewdlabs next game....
 

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With no jobs out there, this game here sure has a lot of "jobs" to offer. Feels like when a massage parlor with a menu like Boobjobs, handjobs, thighjobs, fingerjobs, assjobs, hairjobs and what not, always inventing new jobs. Next level shit, mindbreaking stuff here. Hell lot of a "jobs".
 
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