There's only one problem with your analysis. Netorare is seen through the perspective of the protagonist, and since Mila's husband isn't the protagonist, it can't be netorare. Mila would have to be the victim for that to be the case, and she clearly isn't.
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Hmm but by that logic none of the routes, including the ones that the Dev listed as NTR, would actually be NTR. That said, I definitely get what you are saying and agree that such is typically how I also view NTR. Hence why I hate the term lol. So I will amend and state that the Bob sub/slut path is not inline with "sharing" but rather is cheating/betrayal. It is more consistent with the BBC path than a sharing relationship.
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no other paths to develop as long as the patreon keeps the dev only working the betrayal fat guy path they cuck for lol lisa was also meant for the harem path but we'll be waiting years for it to get some real content there
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Ok, last updates gone too far in "realism", that hits straight to uncanny valley territory. Earlier, more cartoonish arts were way better.
And ai animations, they should be slower, with more fps, not 3 pictures transitioned into each over.
And ai animations, they should be slower, with more fps, not 3 pictures transitioned into each over.
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Your definition of the NTR genre is incorrect, as there are many JAV movie plots with female protagonists that are tagged as NTR.
And as you know, the NTR tag is a Japanese term.
And since I like to post tangible evidence about my opinion, check the tags for this film of this JAV actress where the husband is only seen at the beginning and then at the end... this is one of my favorite Mio Kamishima films.
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It looks incredible. People hate AI but the animations here are some of the best I've ever seen. This tech is getting crazy good so fast. I wonder what tools the dev uses.
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It's not that it's incorrect but that is true. Mila is cheating on Paul and that itself isn't the definition of NTR because YOU as Mila don't feel guilt for cheating. If you were Paul as the protagonist and then watching Mila as she was stolen by Bob then you would felt jealousy which means that itself fulfill the definition of NTR. Considering that Mila will lose Paul in NTT/BBC route and him be with another woman then it would be truly be NTR and that is reverse NTR. Then again, reverse NTR could be a female protagonist being stolen and which is my favorite. If you want to see detailed versions of NTR check
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The current discussion shows me once again how much I dislike the Japanese terms NTR, NTS, etc. in this genre. They are far too ambiguous and leave room for confusion and misinterpretation 
Hopefully, simple English terms like hotwife, cuckold, cheating, etc. will prevail one day
Hopefully, simple English terms like hotwife, cuckold, cheating, etc. will prevail one day
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I agree. I said this in tag discussion and people attacked me like why NTR bother people when there's ahegao, Futanari and other Japanese terms that don't confuse people. I dropped arguing seeing that it's leading nowhere.The current discussion shows me once again how much I dislike the Japanese terms NTR, NTS, etc. in this genre. They are far too ambiguous and leave room for confusion and misinterpretation
Hopefully, simple English terms like hotwife, cuckold, cheating, etc. will prevail one day
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Even more annoying is that those discussions start with every update again.The current discussion shows me once again how much I dislike the Japanese terms NTR, NTS, etc. in this genre. They are far too ambiguous and leave room for confusion and misinterpretation
Hopefully, simple English terms like hotwife, cuckold, cheating, etc. will prevail one day
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People complaining about the term discussions just doesn't understand how tagging porn is serious business
Which reminds me I wish we had Metroidvania and lgd tags
Which reminds me I wish we had Metroidvania and lgd tags
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I understand what you mean, but your definition of NTR is outdated and does not correspond to what in the field of modern Japanese porn films is written with a plot involving a lead wife.
Yours is an old definition derived from manga.
Today there is practically no such thing as the old plot where the protagonist husband realizes that his wife is cheating on him when she leaves with another man....
This view is outdated and is too closely related to early manga, involving a male character who thinks he is superior to his wife just because he is a man. This is a view of husband-wife relationships that no longer exists.
Today (in 2025) women are always the protagonists of their own lives.
No one is interested in identifying with a hopeless loser hubby who is left alone in despair and abandoned by a wife who leaves with a lover. There are tons of this old stories and they are always the same repetitive, boring shit and they have no more sense today.
Today we tend to define the NTR gender exactly with a wife who cheats on her husband but then goes back to live with him.
basically NTR is cuckold and is related only to the betrayal you a woman to her boyfriend/husband/brother/father etc etc
while on the female side you define the betrayal the husband does to his wife as cuckquean
I suggest this link to get an idea of the definitions of kinky fantasies consistent with today's new lifestyle. Among these is the new approach to fetishes in couples' sexual lives, consistent with today's lifestyle.
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Today there are equal rights---I know couples who live in threesomes---. 2 men and a woman (is perfect for me) and usually the woman is free to have sex with others...
here we are not talking about love and sex as one thing and bound by obligations that if you don't have sex with me I don't love you anymore, (This is childish)
i can love a woman even by having sex with others---
sex is a personal pleasure and if you love a person you have to be happy if he feels personal pleasure regardless of obligations---
a love relationship is not always about pleasure and you have to be together only if both feel the same desire.... but sex is just sex
Modern sex stories (IMO) must be written in the spirit of making one feel pleasure...and pleasure can also be submitting to the other or dominating him or her but it must be a defined role...
..in fact in sex there has always been role-playing...
moral superstructures have always ruined love by creating a witch hunt in which in the end it is always the woman's freedom that is lost
When the witch hunt begins it is always the women who lose their indipedence
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I don't know why these arguments keep happening.
The game is tagged as cheating
The game is tagged as netorare
I haven't played the game but the only issue I can see here (and the reason I don't like the current netorare tag definition) is that possibly there's no jealousy on Mila's part.
If that's the case, then the netorare tag is inaccurate and the way to solve that if you care is to report the OP and explain why you think so, not to get into an argument about external tags that don't matter to this site's tagging.
The game is tagged as cheating
(Mila has sex with someone other than her partner, so accurate).
The game is tagged as netorare
(From reading the guide, Mila encourages a relationship between Paul and another woman, so semi-accurate).
I haven't played the game but the only issue I can see here (and the reason I don't like the current netorare tag definition) is that possibly there's no jealousy on Mila's part.
If that's the case, then the netorare tag is inaccurate and the way to solve that if you care is to report the OP and explain why you think so, not to get into an argument about external tags that don't matter to this site's tagging.
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I use a bunch of different tools to create images and videos.
For image generation, I start by making a base image/draft. I either draw it in Photoshop, do a photobash from several images from the internet, or use LLM image generators like ChatGPT or Qwen. If the image is complex and I expect to animate it or make variations, I generate the background separately first and only then add the characters.
After I have the initial draft, I run it through img2img locally (Stable Diffusion — I use A1111). I use several models, mostly from the Ilustrious family and the Pony family. Most of the time I only use LoRAs for the characters. Occasionally I add LoRAs for concepts the model doesn’t understand or keeps mixing up and needs a bit of fine-tuning. You have to be careful with that though, because LoRAs often shift the style — and that hurts consistency.
Then I take the result into Photoshop, fix what I don’t like, and send it back into Stable Diffusion for inpainting. I repeat that loop until I’ve fixed everything that bothers me.
Once I have a finished image, I can move on to video generation. I use WAN 2.2 models — there’s a pretty good variant by dasiwa. The “clean” model keeps consistency better, but then you end up stacking at least 5–6 LoRAs, and that affects face consistency.
I generate videos at 480p, tweaking the prompt until I get a version I like in terms of motion and/or it contains the frames I need. Then I generate a couple of variations with the prompt/seed I liked at 864p. After that, I pull out a frame I like, upscale it to 1080p, run it through img2img, and fix everything I don’t like. Color needs special attention — WAN “flattens” and desaturates colors.
Then I run the video in start-to-end frames mode once I have both frames ready.
Finally, I assemble the finished videos in DaVinci Resolve and convert them to WebM using Shutter Encoder.
That’s the rough flow — but there are nuances at every step
The 2-3 frames animation are the "old" ones I made by hand. The "new" AI animations look like this
It's a 16 fps base video that enhanced to 48/60 fps. Most of them 12 sec long. Some more then 30 sec.
Also, it's a bit of surprise for me, but looks like I will be switching to the loyal route after the NY holidays. Though it's not set in stone, people are still voting
