FenrisWolfe

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Whelp, it was a fun game, then the hint system broke when I turned down Rose's relationship request, probably not gonna play again.
 

Azraelith

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What is this business with Vanessa being a Step-Grandmother?? She is no relation AFAIK (frankly I don't see the point of taking an I-patch to that degree even if it were true, she has no bearing on your blood or your upbringing so it wouldn't be incest).

If she were George's (Grandfather) Sister that would make her your Great-Aunt (or Step-Greataunt I suppose if you have decided George is a Step Grandfather)... Your Step Grandmother would be the mother of a Step parent... Your Great-Aunt's Daughter would be your first cousin once removed
The stepping is out of control in porn games honestly. I tend to stop paying attention after Step-Mom/Dad/Sister
 
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Stil996

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The stepping is out of control in porn games honestly. I tend to stop paying attention after Step-Mom/Dad/Sister
I'm pretty sure she is no relation, it was just the creator of one of the I-Patches getting carried away. Frankly even with "Step" parent I don't get the point, Beyond maybe cucking the parent who married them. They certainly shouldn't need or be mentioned in an incest patch.
 

Vetrais

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I'm pretty sure she is no relation, it was just the creator of one of the I-Patches getting carried away. Frankly even with "Step" parent I don't get the point, Beyond maybe cucking the parent who married them. They certainly shouldn't need or be mentioned in an incest patch.
Out of curiosity, did neither of you use the patch before I started my cleaning it up process last week? I realize I stirred up a bit of this conversation by trying to fix it for people since the old version would literally cause the game to crash at some points, but your comment at least to me reads like you're saying other versions before mine weren't "carried away" like that. Like that value has existed in the version that had been on the OP apparently for over 3 years now as the file in it was last modified 7/2/2021. In fact the OP has also had their link redirect to a new version by someone else....which also has that same value again. So as far as I can tell, there hasn't been a single I-Patch that hasn't referred to the step stuff at least in a long while. Whether it's the right value or not is something I personally haven't gotten far enough into the game to determine yet, and as I said previously I plan on updating my version to reflect whatever the story itself dictates. Which guessing by the family tree that was made will be Great Aunt as you mentioned previously.
 

Stil996

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Out of curiosity, did neither of you use the patch before I started my cleaning it up process last week? I realize I stirred up a bit of this conversation by trying to fix it for people since the old version would literally cause the game to crash at some points, but your comment at least to me reads like you're saying other versions before mine weren't "carried away" like that. Like that value has existed in the version that had been on the OP apparently for over 3 years now as the file in it was last modified 7/2/2021. In fact the OP has also had their link redirect to a new version by someone else....which also has that same value again. So as far as I can tell, there hasn't been a single I-Patch that hasn't referred to the step stuff at least in a long while. Whether it's the right value or not is something I personally haven't gotten far enough into the game to determine yet, and as I said previously I plan on updating my version to reflect whatever the story itself dictates. Which guessing by the family tree that was made will be Great Aunt as you mentioned previously.
I wasn't talking about you BTW, if you say you didn't set those values I'm more than willing to believe you, I was talking about whomever did.
And sure it probably was in previous versions, I really have no idea, the version you posted just happened to be the one I consciously read.
I often use the I-patch, but not every time, and I believe the original one only referred to Anne, George, Diane, Julie & Miriam, which I probably used unedited for the majority of the updates even as new characters were introduced (and new patches were made). And frankly that's about as detailed as I want it to be, hearing people refer to each other by relation (other than Mom/Dad) is weird to me (even Sis/Bro sounds forced in most situations IMO), the only exception I might make is "Aunt"/Uncle in the context of a prefix to a name (ie. Aunt Dorothy, Uncle Bob).... but maybe that's more a cultural thing.
 

Vetrais

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Stil996 Sorry with your clarifying that I realize I overreacted. I'm sure if I took the time to search, you're probably not even the first person to have commented on that relationship seeming incorrect before I came into this. This has just been a bit frustrating as my first real foray into this stuff as I saw the missing values and figured I was helping the people that have complained about the game breaking due to them being missing. With waking up to see that not only was there a different new version on the OP that kind of negated my work (which the new one is still missing a couple values but I pointed that out in the mod's thread as well as giving my current version) but also seeing another comment that could be misinterpreted as being about me I was a bit more irked than I probably should've been. Like I'm still going to keep working on getting mine to be as representative as possible.

Also I typically agree with the last part, at least from the bit of the game I've played through so far I think some of the depth of this one makes a bit more sense as they've already made multiple statements that nearly everyone is related in that town, which will be true regardless if you have the patch applied. So most of the inner workings of their family tree is stated regardless. The relationship.rpy is then primarly setting the MC state into the web that is their family tree and how they relate to it. So while yeah normally it's odd to have the more ancillary relationships stated, I think it'd be moreso to have it basically say at one point "this person is my Grandpa's sisters child." and then later say that make her their "acquaintance".
 
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