Taureum

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How is the actuall State? some News? Or even (what i think won't be soon) ar release date for next release?
 

EvilMonkey

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So i ran some numbers cause i'm bored as fuck and should be studying, also thank you random internet guy the reason i'm joining is for degenerates like us to be able to fap to all the porn we can find, and please anyone tell me if this is wrong, and i'm sure i'm not the only one who has done this but i'm not gonna read through 1887 pages of replies

But judging from Graphtreon, the last amount we are able to see that icstor was making was in 2017, where he made around $8 per patron (calculated average) and had about 1400 patrons, meaning he pulled in around 11,100 a month, with a 5% patreon cut that gives us $10,545 a month. So if we follow that trend and use the calculated average of that year, and apply it to this month, that would mean that icstor pulled in, from his 7823 current patrons, $62,584 from one month after patreons cut we get $59,454, which i dont know how patreon works as I'm not a content creator on there, but he just pulled in a lower middle class family's salary in a single month. If we use the average amount of patrons he had this in January of 2019 (5,300ish), then we'll get $42,400 for one month, $40,280 after patreons cut, times that by what 10? cause he halted payments for 2 months? We get $402,800 minimum in this single year. Assuming taxes and shit icstor will make out with well over a quarter of a million dollars from doing some of the slowest work i've ever seen

This is the kind of shit that makes me not want to donate to him, simply because he has proved time and time again to be unreliable and untrustworthy, the guy is making bank from sitting on his ass and crying about having "mental health problems" as if we all arent fucked in the head ourselves
Am i missing something here? I mean, excuse my ranting and what not but how the fuck can anyone still defend this guy? I think the reason icstor acts like this is because he didnt expect his shit to jump like this, hes in way over his head.

It cant possibly cost that much to make his game, i've seen indie devs do so much more with so much less, hat in time's original kickstarter budget was like 300,000, and icstor has made so much more money than that and has delivered so much less content in the 2+ years hes been developing this

I love his content and would really love to support him, but not until he sorts this shit out. rant over

I'm just playing devils advocate here but maybe earning a shit ton of money and feeling responsible for having to deliver on this fiscal trust has just locked icstor into a loop of depression and inadequacy? I mean, being "in way over his head" would do that wouldn't it? I do think that if he's a one man band and he's getting that much money donated then he needs to pull his head out of his ass and employ some help because he's not doing enough work to keep up alone. And this is what I think all those creators that are struggling to put out content but still taking in large donations should do. Pay people to help you.

Someone should set up an agency to help struggling creators and connect them with programmers and artists in order to propel the work along.
 
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Bismo

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I'm just playing devils advocate here but maybe earning a shit ton of money and feeling responsible for having to deliver on this fiscal trust has just locked icstor into a loop of depression and inadequacy? I mean, being "in way over his head" would do that wouldn't it? I do think that if he's a one man band and he's getting that much money donated then he needs to pull his head out of his ass and employ some help because he's not doing enough work to keep up alone. And this is what I think all those creators that are struggling to put out content but still taking in large donations should do. Pay people to help you.

Someone should set up an agency to help struggling creators and connect them with programmers and artists in order to propel the work along.
He is not a one man team. He has a writer and 2 coders i think.
 
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boxedjack

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Considering the underwhelming size of this "extra large" update, i wonder where he will fit those 100 animations. Sounds like a bullshit number to me. But lets see
Doesn't sound like bullshit to me. The number is actually disappointingly low. I expected about twice as many because the last 3 updates had about 1 animation for every 13 renders. 0.4 for example had 93 animations for 1200+ renders (checked the videos folder and 0.4 indeed added 93 animations).
Now 0.6 has twice as many renders at 2400+ but will only get around the same number of animations as 0.4 did.
 

Almighty

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Considering the underwhelming size of this "extra large" update, i wonder where he will fit those 100 animations. Sounds like a bullshit number to me. But lets see
I didn't know we was getting 100 animations. All he needs to do is animate penetration and call it a day. We got enough animations for oral as it is.

This literally who Celia acts like. The only difference is she is a teacher.
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Q Who

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you're who i was talking about in my last post lol sorry didnt think to quote it
That is basically what I say when I thank our brave soldiers. I get to live a safe happy life because of guys like you "volunteering" to do the dirty work of maintaining my freedoms and our constitution. Thanks again future random PFC.
 

Trapezio

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I'm just playing devils advocate here but maybe earning a shit ton of money and feeling responsible for having to deliver on this fiscal trust has just locked icstor into a loop of depression and inadequacy? I mean, being "in way over his head" would do that wouldn't it? I do think that if he's a one man band and he's getting that much money donated then he needs to pull his head out of his ass and employ some help because he's not doing enough work to keep up alone. And this is what I think all those creators that are struggling to put out content but still taking in large donations should do. Pay people to help you.

Someone should set up an agency to help struggling creators and connect them with programmers and artists in order to propel the work along.
Dude, I feel you. ICSTOR IS SUFFERING: let's help him.


Here is Icstor while suffering:

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I really feel sorry for him :sneaky:
 

Q Who

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I'm just playing devils advocate here but maybe earning a shit ton of money and feeling responsible for having to deliver on this fiscal trust has just locked icstor into a loop of depression and inadequacy? I mean, being "in way over his head" would do that wouldn't it? I do think that if he's a one man band and he's getting that much money donated then he needs to pull his head out of his ass and employ some help because he's not doing enough work to keep up alone. And this is what I think all those creators that are struggling to put out content but still taking in large donations should do. Pay people to help you.

Someone should set up an agency to help struggling creators and connect them with programmers and artists in order to propel the work along.
He has said he has a writer. If he has had help with his graphics I am unsure of and I can't say. Playing along as a devil's advocate. If he is really that damaged he should either A) walk away, money be damned or B) pay people to do the entire project with him solely acting in the role of the project's manager. I tend not to believe anything he says even if his tongue came notarized. To me, he is just using pitty as a device to obfuscate responsibility while maintaining his income. He can't have it both ways. Give me tens of thousands a month but I am too damaged to earn the support given to me. Shut down the patreon until he gets his butt back to work. It is not complicated.
 
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