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Highly debatable. His games are not uploaded here, only the links are shared. F95zone is not responsibly for the content of user posts.
The DMCA cuold take this site down if it did not comply with removal of said links. This is not a debate in the USA at least. If I am correct P is a USA based company and thus bound by ts copyright laws. It is done t YouTube content creators constantly.
 
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Maybe my English is not that good, but I am failing to see how this answers my question.
Yes developers can sign up here, and interact with people playing their games. Some might even decide to finance their games.
But neither of things you mentioned is *providing services to developers*.
They can use any social media for marketing, but nobody except crowd funding providers like Patreon is providing them services. They can use same "services" as other members.
To cut it short, I strongly doubt ICSTOR will give fuck over people ranting here he hadn't post any update in this year. On hold and Abandoned tags are made to inform users, not to "warn" developers. :LOL:
So you have a game. But you and your friends are the only ones who would ever play it without an outlet like this. As I mentioned B4 this is a toxic product that has very limited means of distribution. These developers live off of contributions from fans. Steam won't touch this stuff. So you are the developer of this type of incomplete game. Please explain where else you would get millions of views and in this developers case, 1000's of Ps. Social media? What Fing popular social media site 4chan? Now you have 2 different points made here. And what d you think would happen should an incest based game showed up on the radar of a certain company? Hmmm I wonder if he would still give a fuck! Not. me, I don't have any dimes to drop but stop being so smug or you might motivate someone less tolerant the I. Buzz buzz buzz


You do not know jack squat about marketing. Social media LOL
 
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So I thought I had done everything in this game, but the gallery says I'm missing three scenes.

First page, second row, 2nd and 3rd scene.
First page, 3rd row, first scene.

Can anyone tell me how to get those?
All 3 are Celia (the teacher) scenes. Just follow her part of the walktrough. The scenes are making out at school, anal/oral at school and having her wear a vibrator during a lesson.
 
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jcwiggens before I begin responding let me say you seem to misunderstand were I'm standing. I wouldn't support Icstor either. Reasons for this have been mentioned before. I'm just explaining why others would.

We would be Discord members that have shared Icstors post previously and are therefore trustworthy. Icstor is considered trustworthy by most because of his record.

You are free to consider it what you want. Ask the mods to change their policy's regarding labels if you want them to change it. I simply stated how things are done here currently.

Highly debatable. His games are not uploaded here, only the links are shared. F95zone is not responsibly for the content of user posts. At best he could contact filehosting sites and demand his games be taken down. His games would just be reuploaded or be shared somewhere else like svscomics. This is true for every creator not just Icstor. I don't think Icstor is a fan of this site since it is against the rules to mention it in his discord.

Are you serious? People are free to support him and people can have different opinions, but explaining or arguing why they would do so is considered excuse making by you? Besides I literally didn't make any excuses for Icstor, if anything I attacked him for a lack of communication and "accidentally" charging people in April.

Read my post again. I said the dumpster fire would happen if this site labeled the game as abandoned even though "we" just heard from Icstor. I consider this a fact since you already had several complains on every page about the onhold tag not being removed immediately when "we" heard from Icstor being back to work.
No having opinns is not making excuses. Referring to his statements as factual is making excuses. His post on the op says May or June.When he puts out a product for his supporters he is back. not him, you don't even know that you only know that his account posted it, saying hy I am back. He is burnt out after 4 years of work. He had better be 75 right now or he is in for a long miserable life if 4 years of hard work has broken him. I am done here now. I can't take this BS.
 
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Sorry, but I don't see answer to my question. What service provides this site to ICSTOR specifically? He can sign up here and do a marketing. But, on other hand, you have off-topic section. You can go there and promote yourself, for example buttering your corn. So, I guess we can say this site is providing service for corn buttering.


Why should I?
Q-A) Acquired supporters from this site
Q-B) Because you would understand how A works in the real world.

Please link your "social media" sites where any developers are attracting new paying Ps and supporters outside of P? I would love to see this game on a normal site, but that does not exist. I am still waiting for the answer to where you are getting the 2 million or so views here.

 
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He could acquire supporters if his mom went in supermarket, and started talking about his game there, to her dirty perverted friends (Purely hypothetical scenario). Supermarkets provide services to Patereon game developers?


And what then? I will fap better to Caroline's tits?
I love it when a person is left so bare. That they then resort to to your level of logical discourse. No social media links I see. I think you left your clothes home...emperor. BTW

While I would same the vast majority of game players have no problems with women. "to her dirty perverted friends" it seems like maybe you do. Your attempt at humor exposes some insights and it is not pretty. No go back t your GF, caroline I believe right?
 
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He could acquire supporters if his mom went in supermarket, and started talking about his game there, to her dirty perverted friends (Purely hypothetical scenario).
This made me have a funny thought. Obviously these developers spend so much time on these games and make so much money that you can safely assume that it's their main source of income and probably their only job (it's a pretty awsome job let's be fair)

How do you explain what you do for a living to people? like friends, parents, romantic partners?

Say your mum asks you "hows work?", or you're on a date and the girl says "So what do you do for work?" "Oh I make porn games about a kid fucking his mother and sisters" can't imagine that goes down too well! :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

It's not like you can lie either, you couldn't keep up the fasade forever.
 

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No having opinns is not making excuses. Referring to his statements as factual is making excuses. His post on the op says May or June.When he puts out a product for his supporters he is back. not him, you don't even know that you only know that his account posted it, saying hy I am back. He is burnt out after 4 years of work. He had better be 75 right now or he is in for a long miserable life if 4 years of hard work has broken him. I am done here now. I can't take this BS.
Yeah, I don't think anyone spoke to Icstor personally. But what are you suggesting? Should we attach disclaimers to every post coming from discord that say "keep in mind, this might be a lie or someone else might be using the developers account"?
You are free to believe him or not when he says he is back to work. Really doesn't change anything around here except the tag.
I'm just telling you people believe him because out of all the active developers Icstor might be the one that has been around the longest. The dude almost single-handedly started the Incest craze alongside Dark Silver (I think others like Mr.Dots or LewdLab came later but I'm talking from memory here so someone can fact-check me on that).

To not further derail this thread, I'll say I think we agree that people can support Icstor if they want to. You and me personally wouldn't and take his word with a grain of salt, albeit to a varying degree. Fair?
 

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0.1f: 18 feb. 2018

0.2: 8 may 2018

0.3c: 7 jun. 2018

04c: 28 aug. 2018

0.5c: 17 nov. 2018

Xmas standalone story: 22 dec. 2018

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0.6: ? (who knows?)


As you can see, something went wrong.
im not explaining what others have done more that 100 times already, if you want you can read old post about this since this is already explained.
You/others can think whatever the hell you want and are free to put this game in your ignore list, however coming here asking people to drops their pledge and making lies is not welcome and can be warned by this fórum moderators, as i said people are free to just ignore the thread but dont come here to slash shit at a dev when you guys dont even know anything.
 

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im not explaining what others have done more that 100 times already, if you want you can read old post about this since this is already explained.
You/others can think whatever the hell you want and are free to put this game in your ignore list, however coming here asking people to drops their pledge and making lies is not welcome and can be warned by this fórum moderators, as i said people are free to just ignore the thread but dont come here to slash shit at a dev when you guys dont even know anything.
I think you're imagining things, dude. I just pointed out when updates came out: it's crystal clear what was his working schedule time and that something must have happened in the beginning of 2019.

Anyway, I think I've had enough of seeing that every damn thread has people who think that their favourite porn game's developer is a FAULTLESS hero/saint and whoever complains about anything related to the game is a fucking asshole whatever and whenever he writes on it.

Moreover, you should realize that almost every Patreon funded porn game you can find here is going to be/will be abandoned/unfinished. My HD is FULL of unfinished Patreon funded porn games, you know.
 
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I think you're imagining things, dude. I just pointed out when updates came out: it's crystal clear what was his working schedule time and that something must have happened in the beginning of 2019.

Anyway, I think I've had enough of seeing that every damn thread has people who think that their favourite porn game's developer is a FAULTLESS hero/saint and whoever complains about anything related to the game is a fucking asshole whatever and whenever he writes on it.

Moreover, you should realize that almost every Patreon funded porn game you can find here is going to be/will be abandoned/unfinished. My HD is FULL of unfinished Patreon funded porn games, you know.
i already know many devs like icstor that have already more than 2 games finished...
 

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There obviously gonna be a lot of abandoned games from patreon since patreon is the main platform that all these developers can get known and make a living out of creating games. And because of that reason the competition rises and a lot of those devs stop because they don't make enough money (usually) to make it their work or for some other reason. So saying that most patreon based games are abandoned is wrong because you don't factor the fact that most devs are starting from patreon. Also specifically about icstor even though a lot of people say he rushed his last games and finished them quickly you have to factor in other things like the decrease of his patreon the last months those games where developed. If as a dev you see that a big chunk of your followers stop supporting you understand something is wrong. So judging the fact that his next game is on ren'py and that most big games are also on ren'py he rushed the games so that he can change platform and make his next game more accessible. Last year when those games where developed he had about 1000 patreons while developing two games. This year he has almost 6000 patreons and one of the reasons is the change to ren'py. So you can understand why he would want to rush the other games.
 

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Somebody help me understand the rationale behind this ongoing "developer is a good guy/bad guy" debate:

Serialized retail games, developed by hundreds of people on salaries and with high-quality tools, take years to develop and cost $60 USD a whack, not including "release" versions, companion toys, etc. and people (largely) accept this model. And this doesn't even include loot boxes, paid DLC and all of the other accouterments which can raise the life-time total of a 3-game series to over $500 USD.

And yet here we are, arguing about something that most people aren't going to pay for at all or, even for those that do, paying a buck a month. Does it really matter, in the overall scheme of things if the dev returns or not? I like this game more than a lot of retail games and would like to see it taken to the next level of completeness but...come on...is this really the biggest issue that we have in our lives?

So...help me understand the emotional investment that some of you have in this debate.

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The down side of a long break is that it can kill your motivation to finish a project, especially if you lose track or focus of where you were going with it before you took a break. It's hard to just pick up where you left off. I think there is a good chance for a rushed ending after the dev returns.
 
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