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- Apr 27, 2017
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In the next couple weeks.
- Jul 13, 2018
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Looks like I have to repeat my earlier post as some people still don't get it.
So what's your point? Icstor has to do and work exactly like NLT? It's his game. He's allowed to work as fast or as slow as he wants. He's allowed to live his life focusing on the game 24/7 or working on it in his spare time. It's his choice. Anybody not supporting him on his website has ZERO reason to bitch, whine or moan about how late each update is since you're getting it for FREE. And even then no one is forcing anyone to support him. If you don't like his pace then move on. I am sick and tired of seeing one bitchy post after another day after day, week after week about how people want the updates to come out when THEY say so. As if the game's creator is required to work on their timetable as opposed to his own.
- Jul 21, 2017
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Here's the thing: you're arguing that none of us "know what kind of hardships artists have to go through." Perhaps we don't. But I'd argue that most of us ARE familiar with working for a living. Now you want to say "This man is producing art. Art should be free of normal, mundane constraints." As if art is something "special." And it is, in a way.
But then you go on to say that since he's making a living off the income he gets from this, that we should cut him some slack.
You can't have it both ways. Either art is done for art's sake, in which case, by all means, go to it. But if you want to claim that he's using this as a primary source of income, then how is it in any way fair that he doesn't have any constraints put on him to actually produce something?
If I go volunteer at a soup kitchen or something because I feel it's a morally just thing to do and I gain some personal growth out of the experience, that's all well and good. I shouldn't expect to be paid for my efforts. But if I go to my actual job and then say "I need money to live but I don't want people to demand I actually finish any of the tasks I've been assigned," that... isn't going to fly, is it?
Again, let me for the record state that yes, there are plenty of entitled babies whining and that their demands are unreasonable. But to say that anyone, anywhere, for any reason must be in the wrong just because they're expecting actual work to be done, and to be able to see tangible results out of the process, that's hardly fair. It's arguably even disingenuous.
Icstors certainly makes way too much money for what he creates, but his value doesn't depends on both on how we value his stuff and how many people went to buy into into it. Currently, people are starved of good porn game content, there's not enough supply of quality, so that's why Icstors earns a lot. It's a good thing, because it motivates people to create similar and/or better content.
So there really shouldn't be anyone complaining. We should rather rejoice ourselves, because the future is bright for porn games.
So there really shouldn't be anyone complaining. We should rather rejoice ourselves, because the future is bright for porn games.
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Did ICSTOR say that on patreon or are we just throwing random dates now?
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Its random date guessing
I'm sorry, I don't speak internet weirdo.
- May 24, 2018
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You misunderstand: Art is not special, and he doesn't deserve extra slack because he's making a living off of his income. My position is that no one should have to work. In any reasonably-ordered society, the idea that we would let someone starve to death or die of preventable illness because they aren't "productive" enough would be an unthinkable impossibility. In light of this, criticizing someone because they're not producing fast enough is absurd.
We of course, live in a capitalist society where you either get enough money to live, or you die. So I don't fault any artist for trying to get money out of their work, so long as they don't resort to abusive, exploitative tactics to do so. Far as I know, ICSTOR produces all of his images himself and isn't running some sort of sweatshop where emaciated orphans spend 20 hours a day posing 3D models.
Which means the only people he could possibly be exploiting and abusing are his patrons. Patreon is not kickstarter: When you support someone on Patreon, you are not giving them money in exchange for a promised product delivered by a promised date. (And even on kickstarter, it's only exploitative if you take the money and run and don't even intend to produce anything at all: A project falling apart due to internal creative differences, or due to going over budget, is incompetence, but not necessarily abuse.) You are giving them money to support them in doing whatever it is they decide to do. If you don't like what they're doing with your money, then... stop giving it to them. And if you aren't giving them money, then... what do you possibly have to complain about?
- Apr 26, 2017
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Pretty much this. 
The amount of people who fail to understand (or simply don't care) how patreon works around here before running their mouths is absurd.
The amount of people who fail to understand (or simply don't care) how patreon works around here before running their mouths is absurd.
- Nov 11, 2017
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I didn't forget anything you've mentioned, actually. It's just that none of it is either (1) Relevant or (2) Accurate, by all objective accounts.
Or, you can tell me where I'm wrong in this high-level recap:
https://f95zone.to/threads/milfy-city-v0-5c-icstor.8012/post-2322165
I'm just an objective observer ... it's posts like yours - complaining about asumptions of the Dev's private actions and inner motivations with the gall to make what he wants - that I find silly and the worst kind of armchair quarterbacking. Not sure what you're really striving for, honestly. Is there a purpose to the accusatory attitude?
Then, we have other posts full of whataboutism (i.e., other Devs have X styles, etc.), which I also addressed earlier, but haters gonna hate. Some folks could stand to learn a new tune or two in life, I suspect.
Meanwhile, the game is at 90% and the zaniness on this pirate forum soundchamber is only noise.
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Less than 4 days for me to be without jokes about the release of the update.
if you work for a company and are getting paid to do a job and if your not meeting deadlines or when your boss wants it done then you don't get paid or better yet you get fired. So we are his boss because we are paying him to make the game not sit on his ass for 10 months, as for keeping us up to date about the update he never did from Jan to March when he went on his so called health break ya hes an artist but guess what its still a paying job no matter how you look at it. Now we can keep doing this back and for Bs, but this is my opinion that only reason he took his so called health break was to keep us out of the loop about him not wanting to finish the game.
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Just because you (I assume) and I are Patrons, doesn't mean we're his "Boss". We don't have any right or position to tell ICSTOR what or how to do things. All we can do is withdraw our support for any reason we want. If you or anyone else here is unhappy about Milfy City then you should just cancel your monthly subscription.
ICSTOR makes a living currently off of making games that people like and want to buy. He's a creator, and if enough people don't like the way he's doing things, or what he's creating, then he'll need to change or he'll be out of work. But don't ever assume or think you're his boss or you hold some position of authority over him. You don't like how things are going? then you're free to withdraw your support. Nothing more.
