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sucklamator

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May 2, 2017
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Calculate own estimate based on percentage - ignore given estimate by dev - ignore contradictions if those come from the same source - if I take dev by his word it's my own fault.

I think I got everything, thanks.
Did the dev tell you to pledge no. You do it by your own if you want. Since he said he is going to give the game to everyone that pledged the previous months i don't even understand this argument. Yes he delayed because he wanted to put more content in and guess what it's his game. And because of that fact you say he gives the game free to anyone who pledged those months. Since the patreons get what they paid for i don't understand the argument of "he delayed again and again". If he doesn't give them the game and he lies then we can talk again about it, but as of right now he decided to delay it for more content and he will give the game to those who pledged those months he was supposed to release it.
 

Evangelion-01

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Apr 12, 2018
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Did the dev tell you to pledge no. You do it by your own if you want. Since he said he is going to give the game to everyone that pledged the previous months i don't even understand this argument. Yes he delayed because he wanted to put more content in and guess what it's his game. And because of that fact you say he gives the game free to anyone who pledged those months. Since the patreons get what they paid for i don't understand the argument of "he delayed again and again". If he doesn't give them the game and he lies then we can talk again about it, but as of right now he decided to delay it for more content and he will give the game to those who pledged those months he was supposed to release it.
The first thing he said after promising new content to rather questionable characters is that he had "problems" with the renders of said characters, which reduces the new content and delays the release...
Complete charity of him to include those... for sure
 

itoen

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Apr 19, 2019
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The best thing about Patreon is you can't get back the money you've already paid to get nothing.

If some paypig subscribed right after 0.5 and has had enough if it gets delayed further, he'll have paid 200 dollars to get nothing. So most people will stick to paying even though its been a waste this whole time because of the sunk cost fallacy.

I seriously can't believe it. Every major non-porn patreon account releases content WEEKLY at the very least. Patrons are throwing money into a black hole and are given no guarantees, info, or content in return. The best they get is the chance to vote in a poll that gives ICSTOR the chance to justify being unmotivated because "I'm developing what my customers want not what I want". They're paying you a wall street salary and you have the nerve to complain about one of the few things promised in the Patreon.

Not that I'm mad, he's succeeded far above most content creators with similar integrity.
 

OpenNSFW

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Jul 21, 2017
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This thread is hilarious to any outsider or person who isn't religious about this game.
So many "I'm not mad" and "I will wait patiently" at the end of so many passive aggressive posts. The hilarious part is clicking the post histories and seeing the angry posts which just make them seem even more bipolar.

My favorites are the "I don't care" and "there are tons of other games." Meanwhile they've posted like 80 times in the last month.
 

sucklamator

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May 2, 2017
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The first thing he said after promising new content to rather questionable characters is that he had "problems" with the renders of said characters, which reduces the new content and delays the release...
Complete charity of him to include those... for sure
Yeah but it's still new content and if he indeed gives the game to those that pledged the months he said the game was gonna be ready how is it charity for him. As i said if he fails to do that then by all means hate as much as you want i will too. But just because someone delays the update doesn't mean he is out for grabs. He already had his patreons growing expodentially the last year there is no reason for him to piss all of them off.
 

Vis117

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Sep 22, 2019
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I'm having issues where the sex scenes don't unlock after completing them. I've played the game before and it's worked. Any idea whats wrong? I just did a fresh install for a 2nd time.
 

JoeBanks

Innocent Witches/Not Another Adventurer!
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May 5, 2018
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You obviously have neither any idea about the time it takes to develop a game or how patreon system works...
But what the guy said is pretty much spot on. Patreon is donations, sure people can dispute charges but people are entitled nothing for their money. Even if you make releases monthly, everyone expects new lewd content every release. I have no idea the time the 3d scenes takes but I person was expecting this release sooner. Hopefully it's a great release and the wait is worth it.

With regards for time to develop. Code is quick unless you are adding crazy new mechanics, etc. Dialogue of lewd game quality is not a time sink either, you can pump it out really quick. The main time is always art. Just my two cents.
 

OpenNSFW

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Jul 21, 2017
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But what the guy said is pretty much spot on. Patreon is donations, sure people can dispute charges but people are entitled nothing for their money. Even if you make releases monthly, everyone expects new lewd content every release. I have no idea the time the 3d scenes takes but I person was expecting this release sooner. Hopefully it's a great release and the wait is worth it.

With regards for time to develop. Code is quick unless you are adding crazy new mechanics, etc. Dialogue of lewd game quality is not a time sink either, you can pump it out really quick. The main time is always art. Just my two cents.
By FAR 3d scenes take forever especially animated. There are pros who pump out just animated porn [video game characters] pulling 6 figures and only get out one like 4ish animation loops a month.

I think you way underestimate how much time it takes to code a game and make sure its working though. Even after everything is in place and things break no matter what. Something Unlimited works his ass of drawing and doing everything by himself and will post the game update which is by the numbers - new girl - new scenes. Then you will hear people screaming that everything is borked and not only that but stuff that did work is now borked.


He makes like 2 pictures and 2 animation loops[10-30secs] a month. If your looking for a comparison.
 
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JoeBanks

Innocent Witches/Not Another Adventurer!
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I think you way underestimate how much time it takes to code a game and make sure its working though.
Yes, us gamedevs tend to underestimate how much time it takes to code a game, but we do know how long it takes when reality hits us.

(Also, milfy city uses Renpy, it's really easy to use, there's no complex mechanics in the game that require a lot of time honestly, it's just the art)
 

OpenNSFW

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Jul 21, 2017
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Yes, us gamedevs tend to underestimate how much time it takes to code a game, but we do know how long it takes when reality hits us.

(Also, milfy city uses Renpy, it's really easy to use, there's no complex mechanics in the game that require a lot of time honestly, it's just the art)
Fair enough.
 

insaen

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Dec 1, 2018
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Clearly you haven't read anything i said. Patreons have a brain, if you think he is milking you you can stop if you dont trust him you can stop. Also in those months you can see how the development is going and you can pledge accordingly. You want just to get the update then pledge when the game is in testing. As i said two times now he stated that he is going to give the update to patreons of the previous months. If he doesn't do that be my guest and say what you want. Delaying an update is a decision of the developer and that's that. You can clearly see a damn percentage and you can support when the game goes to testing and that's it. Also i didn't post either but i didn't also make accusations about someone because i disagree with him.
doesn't change the fact that he rarely communicated or the fact that it was at 90% for about 2 months. he is clearly lying to his patreons and using them, making them think that the update is close but for the past 3-4 months hasn't delivered
 
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