Helmut290456

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I took over the writing for ICSTOR when he needed someone to write for Taboo Request. I was paid $250 for the writing in that short game after it released.

I then did the writing for MILF's Villa, and was paid $500-$1000 for each update that I wrote for after I had completed the work. When it came to Milfy City I was paid after each update was released.

During periods of time when there is no work, I don't get paid. I have no pension, sick leave, annual leave etc. I file a self-assessment tax return every year with the HMRC.

A few months ago I posted on here announcing when I had started taking on more roles for ICSTOR in addition to writing the game's dialogue. For example: Running a job competition for new 3D artists, negotiating with Patreon about their Trust and Safety guidleines, writing first drafts of character plots, some project management stuff etc.

I have not been paid anything for Milfy City 1.0, and I won't be paid anything until the game releases.
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PhineasFlynn

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With all due respect, I was the one who negotiated with Patreon and fixed the problems on ICSTOR's behalf. The amount of work that I had to do within the space of just over a month was insane.

On the 7th September Patreon suspended ICSTOR's page with a collection of evidence from both in-game and outside the game, including incest patches - which we had to explain were fan-made.

During that time I had to read and redraft 900+ A4 pages of dialogue for the entire game to date, send the new scripts to Patreon, and then have them picked apart by the Trust and Safety Team, starting the process again with more constraints.

I ended up having to go through the entire game's script at least five times between 7th September and 14th October before they finally accepted a version they liked.

Some of the other content we had to deal with included:
-All references to familial relations;
-All references to any characters attending a school (now a university/college);
-Bob seemed to act too much like a "father-figure" to the main character;
-The word "teen" cannot be used, not even in the context of "eighteen or nineteen", and unfortuantely not in the context of "Fuck my tight teenage pussy!";
-Patreon did not like any references to qualifications achieved by characters. e.g. "I got an A in English"
-Patreon did not like Sara being grounded. It seemed more like a mom-daughter relationship than a landlord/tenant one;
-Sara's skirt gets flipped by Linda. Patreon found that bad in the context of the prior point.
Its look like game now need only one black, one asian characters and one person with down's syndrome. Also, someone overstitched, a few rainbow flags and a positive mention of electric cars won't hurt.
 

kasata

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Some of the other content we had to deal with included:
-All references to familial relations;
-All references to any characters attending a school (now a university/college);
-Bob seemed to act too much like a "father-figure" to the main character;
-The word "teen" cannot be used, not even in the context of "eighteen or nineteen", and unfortuantely not in the context of "Fuck my tight teenage pussy!";
-Patreon did not like any references to qualifications achieved by characters. e.g. "I got an A in English"
-Patreon did not like Sara being grounded. It seemed more like a mom-daughter relationship than a landlord/tenant one;
-Sara's skirt gets flipped by Linda. Patreon found that bad in the context of the prior point.
What the actual fuck! some of these are actually crazy, what kind of clowns work at Patreon ?!
 
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OnlyWorthyDevsMakeMoney

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No, WWG doesn’t release the patch here. It gets leaked here, just like the game itself gets leaked.
Either way, the original content is PRESENT in the release, just not accessible, and WWG and all the community knows that they need a patch. The result is the same, Patreon doesn't break the fuck and everyone is happy. I don't get why now this game has been completely transformed into a boring vanilla one without harem ending and almost all side stories cutted out. It has been years without a release, by now the game should have had 10 hours of content.
But we all know that all of this is just another attempt to gain cows for that scammer.
 

septacycell

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Nothing wrong with gay sex:p

All joking aside, the game should have been worked on more, but I can't do anything to change the past. Best I can do is get the ball rolling again from when I organised the new 3D artist joining the team.

Patreon used evidence taken from F95 when the ICSTOR's page was shut down before. Another creator I helped out when their Patreon was shut down had evidence gathered from ULMF.
Sorry I know is a bit off topic but is there some kind of morality internet police stalking developers or is the Patreon team?
 

OnlyWorthyDevsMakeMoney

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Sorry I know is a bit off topic but is there some kind of morality internet police stalking developers or is the Patreon team?
About this specific game, I bet that people (cows) started to report the dev because of his constant delay. After that, Patreon took the chance to analyse the game and blocked the page for all the incest, rape etc. But Patreon staff almost never take the initiative unless someone reports it.
 

Ennoch

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Sorry I know is a bit off topic but is there some kind of morality internet police stalking developers or is the Patreon team?
Patron's morality police is stalking the devs, yes. Was always the case as well.
What happens is: There are people whom, if they don't get they want after demanding attention and changes to the game from the dev, report the dev to Patreon and that gets the aformentioned morality police involved.
 

MF_DOOM

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Martin's book, obviously.
This game will never see the light, this so called final version is just a way to gain more cows and squeeze them until the last drop.
I dont know, Martin said himself that he is old and fat and he dont want anyone finishing his books if he dies before he is finished.
 

Jarul

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I know, that's why I said that he will finish his work before shitstor.
Why all of you are so negative here? This Onyx fellow seams like a well-paid pro and apparently he is in charge of making game now. It is very likely next (last) game update will be released this year. It will not be what it should be, but hey at least we will get something :)
At the end scamstor probably just wants to start another scam cycle so he will be safe for next couple of years. He need Milfy City to die so people will easier get lured into next project. I bet that will start big and soon after that another round of slow milking will begin.

EDIT:
Also I "Hope you enjoy the full game when it comes out." ;)
 
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Ennoch

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At the end scamstor probably just wants to start another scam cycle
Probably?? For sure.
Can't wait to see Milfy Maffia released! Such a fun thread it is going to be :giggle: Plus we may get a couple good updates out of it since that is how the story usually goes. I wonder if his supporter count climbs back to 8000 again.
 
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OnlyWorthyDevsMakeMoney

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Why all of you are so negative here? This Onyx fellow seams like a well-paid pro and apparently he is in charge of making game now. It is very likely next (last) game update will be released this year. It will not be what it should be, but hey at least we will get something :)
At the end scamstor probably just wants to start another scam cycle so he will be safe for next couple of years. He need Milfy City to die so people will easier get lured into next project. I bet that will start big and soon after that another round of slow milking will begin.

EDIT:
Also I "Hope you enjoy the full game when it comes out." ;)
I am so negative because I was a Patron back in the day, and got lured by all the initial promises he made. He made promises for about 1 year, then went radio silence even on Discord after the people started to see through his scam. Now this "savior" shows up starting making promises and telling us that there are 4000+ renders made, but not aq single word from scamstor itself. Sorry but I am not believing any of it ;)
 

Boopeeman

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I took over the writing for ICSTOR when he needed someone to write for Taboo Request. I was paid $250 for the writing in that short game after it released.

I then did the writing for MILF's Villa, and was paid $500-$1000 for each update that I wrote for after I had completed the work. When it came to Milfy City I was paid after each update was released.

During periods of time when there is no work, I don't get paid. I have no pension, sick leave, annual leave etc. I file a self-assessment tax return every year with the HMRC.

A few months ago I posted on here announcing when I had started taking on more roles for ICSTOR in addition to writing the game's dialogue. For example: Running a job competition for new 3D artists, negotiating with Patreon about their Trust and Safety guidleines, writing first drafts of character plots, some project management stuff etc.

I have not been paid anything for Milfy City 1.0, and I won't be paid anything until the game releases.
Don't reply to this but Milfy Mafia better have a patch. And we better get a harem ending for City.
 

Gentoo

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Yes, the storyline featured a girl who was not a lesbian, being coerced into lesbian sex with her "landlady".

That was even worse than anything else apparently
Wow it's been so long ago I don't remember it.
 

PadroPedro

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Sorry, I wasn't clear, the problem wasn't the neighbours being gay.

The problem was that the younger neighbour was NOT gay, and was being coerced into a same-sex relationship against her will. She wanted to date guys etc, and the older neigjbour was being obsessively controlling.
Basically 1.0 will have none of the kinks Milf City had and instead will be full vanilla ? I get it Patreon screwed things up but at this point I don't think a 1.0 should exist, it will be a heavilly censored version (and this isn't a dig at you sir, you are doing what yo have to do). I know ppl would go mad but if back in the day ICSTOR had just said Patreon fucked the game over and moved to something else it'd probably have been better.
 
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Either way, the original content is PRESENT in the release, just not accessible, and WWG and all the community knows that they need a patch. The result is the same, Patreon doesn't break the fuck and everyone is happy.
Until someone rips his dick off because WWG added some content they don't like and once again reports the game content and the patch from this site to Patreon and shit hits the fan.
 

OnlyWorthyDevsMakeMoney

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Until someone rips his dick off because WWG added some content they don't like and once again reports the game content and the patch from this site to Patreon and shit hits the fan.
Well, in the latest update there is also a bestiality sex scene, totally optional and behind the patch, but it is there, and no one complained.
People don't report creators for the content itself, but for the long promised one that never came out.
 
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