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Before I Forget

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You're forgetting about Don Milking, better known as Kyle or Gumdrop Games.
Add Kompas Production(Summertime Saga Dev) to that list as well.

I still think that L&P (A Wife and Mother) is way worse when it comes to the milking. That one has been going for about seven years, and the MC has yet to have sex with anyone who's not her husband.

Meanwhile, I just ran through the Linda storyline in Milfy City over this last weekend for the first time in about four years, and it remains the gold standard for VNs on here in this particular subgenre (younger guy gets seduced by/seduces MILFs). Milfy City and Being a DIK are the only two VNs that I've gone through on this site that actually deliver the goods, and have decent renders, which is honestly really sad.

That said, I'm all ears if someone wants to suggest others of this level. The other two that get pretty close as well are Halfway House and Summer Heat, but those also really drag their feet when it comes to getting to the good stuff.
Both things can be true. For me, Icstor saw the finish but realized how much money he was making and took his foot off the gas. The rate he was dropping content MC should've been wrapped up already and him working on another game should've been seen as nothing more than a slap in the face to fans but hey, people have humiliation fetishes around here so...

I don't play AWAM anymore so I can't dispute that but did I hear that Dev also milks. That would also probably explain the horrid "fan made" version out there.

As far as Summer Heat goes, for me it's too soon to call them milkers. The Devs both have full time jobs and have been pretty straight forward. I'm sure if they brought in the kind of money Kompas or Icstor makes then we'll probably see more... but you can never be too sure anymore. I do believe that their are great Devs out there that love what they do and I can't really fault Devs if they have LEGITIMATE reasons for delays and slow updates. They have lives outside of this and aren't robots...

That being said there are abusers of this in the AVN industry and Icstor is one. But rather than getting too spammy, I just focus on other games. I just like to poke fun a certain cults on here every now and then.
 

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Content Restoration Mod 0.5 Alternative Dialog Pixeldrain
Content Restoration Mod 0.5 Alternative Dialog Mega

0.1: It fully restores the deleted 'Sidra and Isla' content (the friendly neighborhood lesbians), the intro, and a few minor things, such as the school on the map.
0.2: Includes fixes to the full Caroline's path.
0.3: Fully restores Celia's blackmail path.
0.4: Restores Sara's full path.
0.5: Linda's path is fully restored.

Installation: Just drop the "game" folder from the archive into the main "MilfyCity" folder. Overwrite if asked.

Log:
0.1 - Initial release.
0.1.1 - Added the missing video files.
0.1.2 - Fixed the typo for the "videos" folder.
0.2 - Caroline only: Fixes numerous grammar mistakes, restores all relationship-related content, and reinstates all stuff related to school.
0.2.1 - Fixed the typo for the "videos" folder.
0.3 - Added restoration to Celia's complete blackmail path.
0.3.1 - A fully rewritten dialogue for the first event, introduced with version 1.0, between MC and Celia, is now much more in line with the previous ones.
0.3.2 - Contains fixes from 1.0e. Fully compatible with the Steam version.
0.4 - Adds full restoration to Sara's path. She's back to school, reinstates her relationship with the MC, and other members of the cast, along with all related content and many minor things. Sorry about the last event, I couldn't help myself...
0.5 - Linda's Path is fully restored. The same goes for Bob, Judy, and the twins. Integrated a walkthrough for the friendly neighborhood lesbians, along with countless other minor additions and adjustments.
0.1 means it will only restart sidra story?
My save got Sidra story broken. I visit is hiusr three times and now it's say the story with her is complete.
 

Powerbabe

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Wow, so there's still more content that has been cut... How much more update do you think it's gonna take until the content is fully restored?
Just one more to fix the rest of the cast.

0.1 means it will only restart sidra story?
My save got Sidra story broken. I visit is hiusr three times and now it's say the story with her is complete.
I suggest you start over, or if you know how to manipulate the game variables, you can do that.
 
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Add Kompas Production(Summertime Saga Dev) to that list as well.


Both things can be true. For me, Icstor saw the finish but realized how much money he was making and took his foot off the gas. The rate he was dropping content MC should've been wrapped up already and him working on another game should've been seen as nothing more than a slap in the face to fans but hey, people have humiliation fetishes around here so...

I don't play AWAM anymore so I can't dispute that but did I hear that Dev also milks. That would also probably explain the horrid "fan made" version out there.

As far as Summer Heat goes, for me it's too soon to call them milkers. The Devs both have full time jobs and have been pretty straight forward. I'm sure if they brought in the kind of money Kompas or Icstor makes then we'll probably see more... but you can never be too sure anymore. I do believe that their are great Devs out there that love what they do and I can't really fault Devs if they have LEGITIMATE reasons for delays and slow updates. They have lives outside of this and aren't robots...

That being said there are abusers of this in the AVN industry and Icstor is one. But rather than getting too spammy, I just focus on other games. I just like to poke fun a certain cults on here every now and then.
The award of biggest milking scammer as of recently, goes to Inusen.
 
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I'm very curious how many people actually waited more than half a year for r-patch v0.5 without playing the "final" MC at all.

Is there anyone else who still won't play MC with r-patch v0.5, waiting for v0.6?
Yes, I'm literally downloading every single patch just to keep all of this in a folder just in case. I'll probably only play it when everything is complete, patches and DLCs. Or maybe never. The lack of a "harem" tag kinda scares me to be honest. I'm here hoping that all this content restoration does allow us to have some sort of a "harem" ending so I can replay it without feeling frustrated at the end, though I don't even really know how it ends at all but I'm afraid to know. This is such a shame, the game was otherwise pretty great.

Like I love that there's content restoration options from great people, but at the same time it scares me that there's a need for content restoration options.

So anyway, in the meantime, I'm just backing up everything and not playing it. I'll go play games with a less uncertain and a more straightforward development.
 

manneychin

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Yes, I'm literally downloading every single patch just to keep all of this in a folder just in case. I'll probably only play it when everything is complete, patches and DLCs. Or maybe never. The lack of a "harem" tag kinda scares me to be honest. I'm here hoping that all this content restoration does allow us to have some sort of a "harem" ending so I can replay it without feeling frustrated at the end, though I don't even really know how it ends at all but I'm afraid to know. This is such a shame, the game was otherwise pretty great.

Like I love that there's content restoration options from great people, but at the same time it scares me that there's a need for content restoration options.

So anyway, in the meantime, I'm just backing up everything and not playing it. I'll go play games with a less uncertain and a more straightforward development.
Beware that the "restauration" effort primarily has to do with what can be restored at all, which is heavily limited to content that was removed between v0.7 and v1.0 to appease Patreon. Already from v1.0 and going forward into the DLCs there is nothing to be restored anymore, which is why to me it's not worth waiting for DLCs or hoping they will be good. ALL the pervy kinks that made pre-v1.0 MC good will be absent. There will be no realistic way to correct and enhance the DLCs by adding said kinds through mods because mods can't realistically add new visuals. It would be WAAAAY too much work and anyone who could mod at that level is FAR better off developing their own game instead of improving ICSTOR's game for free.

For DLCs the "restauration" will be a misnomer. All it will mean is dialogue will be modified to (in effect) retcon incest. But because incest will not be baked into the original, the retcon will be VERY bland incest-wise (i.e. the kink will be dead) unless someone who is IMPOSSIBLY good at writing adult screenplays rewrites large portions of the game while using just the visuals the game ships with AND is willing to do it for free for some reason. You have a better chance at winning the lottery without buying a ticket than there is for the aforementioned to happen so tune your expectations on what the DLCs will be like, IF they will ever even be released at all.

Patreon has gone full retard with their Fantasy Police, finally squeezing adult games to the point where only the blandest possible sex can be depicted. The insanity goes far beyond banning incest. It has to do with how Patreon demands consent to be depicted. Characters pretty much need to yell I CONSENT!!! I CONSENT!!! every few minutes or else some woke piece of shit working at Patreon can abusively nuke you from their platform with zero dialogue and total impunity (has already happened to several major games). The only out is to religiously only depict woke sex which is something nobody wants, not even the woke as evidenced by the latest demographics.

I'll reiterate just to be clear. Fantasy sex that's been mainstream in normal porn for decades, like "step"-brother/sister, BDSM, manhandling, female domination, etc. puts your game at insurmountable risk of being banned with no way for you to explain anything to Patreon, no narrow change demand from Patreon, they will just ban you because they don't "feel" like your game depicts "correct" fantasies. Not talking to those who are banned is essential because talking exposes them to liability. It's infinitely better for them to just ban people they don't like with a generic "T&C violation" message. Good luck beating that in a California court, in case you are in the 0.01% who can afford taking even the first step on that path.
So the consequence is that current Patreon adult games will either become so woke nobody will want to touch them, die or go to some other platform (there is no other platform that can provide income at a similar level so choose from the first two options).
 
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Beware that the "restauration" effort primarily has to do with what can be restored at all, which is heavily limited to content that was removed between v0.7 and v1.0 to appease Patreon. Already from v1.0 and going forward into the DLCs there is nothing to be restored anymore, which is why to me it's not worth waiting for DLCs or hoping they will be good. ALL the pervy kinks that made pre-v1.0 MC good will be absent. There will be no realistic way to correct and enhance the DLCs by adding said kinds through mods because mods can't realistically add new visuals. It would be WAAAAY too much work and anyone who could mod at that level is FAR better off developing their own game instead of improving ICSTOR's game for free.

For DLCs the "restauration" will be a misnomer. All it will mean is dialogue will be modified to (in effect) retcon incest. But because incest will not be baked into the original, the retcon will be VERY bland incest-wise (i.e. the kink will be dead) unless someone who is IMPOSSIBLY good at writing adult screenplays rewrites large portions of the game while using just the visuals the game ships with AND is willing to do it for free for some reason. You have a better chance at winning the lottery without buying a ticket than there is for the aforementioned to happen so tune your expectations on what the DLCs will be like, IF they will ever even be released at all.

Patreon has gone full retard with their Fantasy Police, finally squeezing adult games to the point where only the blandest possible sex can be depicted. The insanity goes far beyond banning incest. It has to do with how Patreon demands consent to be depicted. Characters pretty much need to yell I CONSENT!!! I CONSENT!!! every few minutes or else some woke piece of shit working at Patreon can abusively nuke you from their platform with zero dialogue and total impunity (has already happened to several major games). The only out is to religiously only depict woke sex which is something nobody wants, not even the woke as evidenced by the latest demographics.

I'll reiterate just to be clear. Fantasy sex that's been mainstream in normal porn for decades, like "step"-brother/sister, BDSM, manhandling, female domination, etc. puts your game at insurmountable risk of being banned with no way for you to explain anything to Patreon, no narrow change demand from Patreon, they will just ban you because they don't "feel" like your game depicts "correct" fantasies. Not talking to those who are banned is essential because talking exposes them to liability. It's infinitely better for them to just ban people they don't like with a generic "T&C violation" message. Good luck beating that in a California court, in case you are in the 0.01% who can afford taking even the first step on that path.
So the consequence is that current Patreon adult games will either become so woke nobody will want to touch them, die or go to some other platform (there is no other platform that can provide income at a similar level so choose from the first two options).
You might want to check out https://f95zone.to/threads/milfy-city-american-dirty-talk-4-01-2024-timbukalso.193758/

It works WITH the content restoration patch and not only puts the kink back, it improves on it.
Give the author some commendation to encourage them for the hard work.

I believe it is planned to "fix" the DLC stuff as well...
 
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Powerbabe

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For DLCs the "restauration" will be a misnomer. All it will mean is dialogue will be modified to (in effect) retcon incest. But because incest will not be baked into the original, the retcon will be VERY bland incest-wise (i.e. the kink will be dead) unless someone who is IMPOSSIBLY good at writing adult screenplays rewrites large portions of the game while using just the visuals the game ships with AND is willing to do it for free for some reason. You have a better chance at winning the lottery without buying a ticket than there is for the aforementioned to happen so tune your expectations on what the DLCs will be like, IF they will ever even be released at all.
Actually, everything you pointed out is already done that way. The Content Restoration Mod isn't actually restoring new text introduced with 1.0; there's nothing to restore from. What it does is rewrite it to blend seamlessly with the original and adds to it. It will be the same for the DLCs.
 

manneychin

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Actually, everything you pointed out is already done that way. The Content Restoration Mod isn't actually restoring new text introduced with 1.0; there's nothing to restore from. What it does is rewrite it to blend seamlessly with the original and adds to it. It will be the same for the DLCs.
I haven't played MC v1.0 at all. As you may remember, I said I'll wait for the [COMPLETED] r-patch (v0.6+?) no matter how long my beard gets :), so it can't be said I criticized your writing in r-patch as being less than "IMPOSSIBLY good".

It's not lost on me how difficult it is to not only restore whatever visuals, choices & dialogues were removed between v0.7 and v1.0 BUT also what you said (and I wasn't fully aware of), to alter many completely new v1.0 dialogues and make incest more kinky/lively.
HOWEVER, not having original support for incest baked in by ICSTOR, massively limits the creativity, spiciness and just what can be done with a mod.
My opinion is this lack of baked in support will become a major problem for incest in the DLCs.
Just to give an example, ICSTOR may decide that in one of the DLCs where we get an ending with Sara (lil sis), the story goes that MC & Sara win a megavacation or foreign scholarship or something that takes them away from the family to have their marriage and maybe pregnancy unfold. Now it's immediately obvious no amount of dialogue tweaking will make the incest spicier than it could be if they stayed at home and the perviness would've somehow incorporated big sis, mom, dad, etc. Would love to see big sis drink milk from Sara or milk her but it won't happen if ICSTOR makes the aforementioned choice, which is not that far fetched.

You might want to check out https://f95zone.to/threads/milfy-city-american-dirty-talk-4-01-2024-timbukalso.193758/

It works WITH the content restoration patch and not only puts the kink back, it improves on it.
Give the author some commendation to encourage them for the hard work.

I believe it is planned to "fix" the DLC stuff as well...
Thanks. I have been tracking that patch too but Powerbabe's is more important, I think. Once Powerbabe is done, I'll see how the two patches differ and which combo gives the best gameplay. A few months ago timbukalso said he'll keep up with Powerbabe's patch and harmonize his own with new versions of the former to avoid conflicts so there's reason to believe in the end we'll have good options.
 

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Add Kompas Production(Summertime Saga Dev) to that list as well.
Not really, the Tech Update is needed because they had like four or five different coders over the years and each of them did their preference coding. That's why the Tech Update is needed in the first place to "unfuck" this mess. They could hire more people to work on the Code, yes. But when the different coders would be working with their preference it ends up as a mess again. They would need Coders which are working exactly as Summertime Sagas newest Coder.
 
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