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Umgenlied

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He's going to announce that he's planning to pause his Patreon page after this release for at least two months to take a break from everything. He's burnt out and not feeling well.
I don' ge' i', but he doesn't live from the toxic community nor anything else but his patrons, which are quite a lot. Really, i don' get it, it would expected, or at least i would logically assume that any person in any situation alike would undetstand what he does as a full-time job. Sure, a one month vacation is perfectly reasonable, but people seem to take it as if this fellow would be some sort of god overwhelmed by the weight of responsabilities.

Why tho? He receives a decent, constant amount of money per month to maintain an activity, period. I can't see it as anything else beyond that, he doesn't need to be involved in anything surrounding his products. It's not what you call a "common" enterprise, he doesn't have to incur in big initial capital costs, nor infrastructure or publicity. The only thing he depends on are his supporters.

PD: my response is not exactly directed to your post. For some reason, i'm not used to post anything that is not in the form of an answer :p. It's mostly oriented to some messages above yours. I do can get behind that tho, if whatever happened in january it's still bugging him, it'd be understandable not only of himself but of everyone to be unable to keep the same track of work as before.
 

Demonius

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Oct 28, 2018
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Can someone explain to me the difference between Indy game's and AAA game's
I have absolutely no idea what that means
indy games are small studio/small group of people and self published. all the games on this site would be classified as indie games. AAA games are games from EA, Ubisoft, Blizzard, ect.
 

Blitzen

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Apr 30, 2017
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Probably some irl situation happened , cut the guy some slack. And i can see him still pushing it this month.
 

$JACKIE1492

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Sep 19, 2018
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Oi! Mates I just hope this is not the last of Caroline. I know it's going to be 5/5 but hoping to find out that it will be 5/10 progress with her now on this next update. Feel free to do this with all the other characters to.
 
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JinXXX

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At the end of last year I thought this thread was getting better and more tolerable but in 2019 so far it has gone down the shitter again. The influx of the exact same asinine questions and/or presumptions has really gone overboard.
No matter what he did with the game some people had to give him shit for it.

  • so far he has released only great updates filled with content yet some of the left-hand-fapping and right-hand-CTRL-button-holding edgelord crowd constantly complains about short 10 - 15 min updates
  • he gave us a surprise arc with Zuri & Suri but the "fans" complained about wasted resources on side characters which could have been used for the family girls
  • he tried doing faster updates with v0.3 but the "fans" complained about the lack of content
  • he gave us an awesome Caroline update but the "fans" complained about her dialogue so much that Onyxdime had to change it
  • the hardliner Caroline fans are especially obnoxious and the worst and most vocal of the bunch (yes we get it Caroline is indeed absolutely stunning and fucking amazing, stop being dicks about it). They're constantly downplaying any update without content for her and I don't want to imagine how unbearable they are going to be when her arc comes to a temporary (?) end in v0.6.
  • he did regular content polls and let his community decide about the new update but still gets shit for neglecting some characters like Celia, Judy or MC's classmates
  • he did a surprise Xmas episode but instead of being grateful his "fans" prefer to complain about v0.6 taking so long to release
  • now that the game has become hugely popular and makes a decent five-figure sum each month more and more "fans" have been assuming without any proof that ICSTOR has gotten complacent, lazy and spending his money on a swagger lifestyle instead of a new 2080 TI rig or new staff members
  • the sheer amount of people asking about a release date and putting more pressure after every update has also increased over time and lately has even become critical

At this point I really can't fathom how awful it must be for ICSTOR himself to be on the receiving end of such demotivating feedback and I hope he has the mental strength to hang in there. Having such a toxic community must be unbearable and I fear for the medium- to long-term future of this game and (god forbid!) it wouldn't even surprise me if he decides to take a break from this business for health reasons.

So fingers crossed that the Discord announcement isn't something bad.
Hello ICCSTOR. Get your lazy ass back to work.
 
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mike_campbell

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Mar 3, 2019
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I made a truly tragic error. Milfy City is the first game I ever downloaded and I love it. I've since tried other games and realised that it's downhill from here. Nothing compares.

I also made a truly tragic error in reading this thread. Some of you people (not all) sound like kids in the backseat of a car. As the car pulls out ofthe driveway, the chorus of "Are we there yet?" starts. As a good parent would say in that circumstance, "we get there when we get there". In this case, it'll be released when it's released.

I wonder what proportion of people complaining on here about the release are supporting on Patreon? I don't care if the developer is spending a month on a beach in the Bahamas with seven naked bisexual girlfriends*. He's produced something truly magnificent and should be allowed to take a reward.

Patience.



*I do, actually. That would bother me a lot.
 

Thrownaway13

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May 27, 2017
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Hello all!

This is less a post from me as a mod and more as someone who creates stuff.

It is understandable that emotions can run high especially with a product we enjoy. Even if an update is a week away, every hour can feel painful.

Please keep in mind that the people doing the creating also have a life to keep up with. Family situations and emotional states can rapidly change. Being supportive of a creator is the best thing to do if you have a project you enjoy.

So please keep that in mind over the coming weeks and months in this thread and others. We will be keeping a close eye on this thread.


Thanks and happy gaming!
 

Shane498

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Apr 27, 2017
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At the end of last year I thought this thread was getting better and more tolerable but in 2019 so far it has gone down the shitter again. The influx of the exact same asinine questions and/or presumptions has really gone overboard.
No matter what he did with the game some people had to give him shit for it.

  • so far he has released only great updates filled with content yet some of the left-hand-fapping and right-hand-CTRL-button-holding edgelord crowd constantly complains about short 10 - 15 min updates
  • he gave us a surprise arc with Zuri & Suri but the "fans" complained about wasted resources on side characters which could have been used for the family girls
  • he tried doing faster updates with v0.3 but the "fans" complained about the lack of content
  • he gave us an awesome Caroline update but the "fans" complained about her dialogue so much that Onyxdime had to change it
  • the hardliner Caroline fans are especially obnoxious and the worst and most vocal of the bunch (yes we get it Caroline is indeed absolutely stunning and fucking amazing, stop being dicks about it). They're constantly downplaying any update without content for her and I don't want to imagine how unbearable they are going to be when her arc comes to a temporary (?) end in v0.6.
  • he did regular content polls and let his community decide about the new update but still gets shit for neglecting some characters like Celia, Judy or MC's classmates
  • he did a surprise Xmas episode but instead of being grateful his "fans" prefer to complain about v0.6 taking so long to release
  • now that the game has become hugely popular and makes a decent five-figure sum each month more and more "fans" have been assuming without any proof that ICSTOR has gotten complacent, lazy and spending his money on a swagger lifestyle instead of a new 2080 TI rig or new staff members
  • the sheer amount of people asking about a release date and putting more pressure after every update has also increased over time and lately has even become critical

At this point I really can't fathom how awful it must be for ICSTOR himself to be on the receiving end of such demotivating feedback and I hope he has the mental strength to hang in there. Having such a toxic community must be unbearable and I fear for the medium- to long-term future of this game and (god forbid!) it wouldn't even surprise me if he decides to take a break from this business for health reasons.

So fingers crossed that the Discord announcement isn't something bad.
I GOT the same feeling for AWAM, people just can't wait, I mean I have to go to university and I have other things in my mind rn, I really don't understand why people have to be so mean... Like, we aren't waiting for the next COD, BF, AC...
 
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tedtom

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more patrons = more money = project's scope changes = larger updates = longer development time
I get what you're saying but when it comes to porn games I've witnessed the complete opposite. That's just my personal experience though.
 
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OneLegion

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According to ICSTOR there will come a situation update on his patreon page later this week explaining the current situation. So if everyone just sit tight (dont see it happening but still...) we will hopefully know more by then.
 

Sam

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I have to disagree with you @Sam
Off the top of my head the only dev that tried to change the scope of his work is Dark Silver (from Big Brother), and we all know how that went :eek:

In most cases, if not all, once the dev gets tons of cash from patreon they get slower and slower, or just give up and peace out with the cash.
Many successful games have increased in scope, Milfy City being one of them, Summertime Saga, Mythic Manor, Waifu Academy to name a few.

As projects mature it's understandable that updates take longer as there are more paths and stories to work on, and continuing ever advancing stories takes longer to develop and write. When the scope or size of the game also increases, it's inevitable that development time takes longer as well. You can't just expect more money to solve the problem either, that is, until cloning technology is invented.

Too many people have no idea of the time and effort it takes to develop games, and expect everything yesterday. Sure some developers are shady, but don't tar all developers with the same brush just because a minority act poorly.
 

depechedNode

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I'm not trying to defend ICSTOR and even not a patron of him, but want to point out that sometimes a dev gets slower and slower due to branching of story and/or sandbox design issues which gets harder in time with big content games or just burn out or real life issues. So it's not always about scam.

But if you guys are still searching for a dev who works like a machine, then here comes a shameless advertising of a dev who really works hard, never burned out (and hopefully never will be), releasing content filled updates always on time for months and his game is his main job.

https://f95zone.to/threads/adventures-of-willy-d-v0-33-nenad-asanovic.3423/
 

michi04

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hello, can someone tell me how I can get all the pictures galleries. I always miss some of them, although I've searched everywhere the puzzle pieces and had clicked. Thank you very much.
 
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