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I call bullshit. 60 000+ words is not realistic unless he's counting some auto-generated RenPy-code. If we're talking characters of text, then maybe, but I still doubt it.
Aren't like 80k the average length of a novel? Agreed, this seems... unlikely. I mean, almost a full novel for one update, wtf, did he change porn-dialogue into Shakespeare over-night?
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Yes, it is. 60k words is usually somewhere between 200 and 300 pages in a book.
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Calm boys. He try to give us a masterpiece neighbour content. Who cares Caroline or Celia? Fuck that. Everyone waits for neighbour content. Best thing ever in this game. Stop whining, it hurts.
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Thanks for the post Pepegaa.
So finally the frustration of just his elite club made him reach out. Fair point but IMO, this is what happens if you aren't consistent. TBH - the game's strongest point was never the story but it's amazing renders.
His communication and timelines for deliverables needs a lot of discipline. NLT is the one to emulate in this regard.
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This has to be stressed; with any dev work, linear addition of content or features leads to exponential addition of time in bug-hunting and testing
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Yeah, that's something I've tried to offer here, at least.
And, there may be other factors at play, too (e.g., he mentioned crashed in Neighbor scenes, which is not uncommon for Daz but we don't know why in this case).
Plus again, waiting to mash all the content together instead of building out more fully as you go along - i.e., using a"Big Bang" approach - is fraught with integration issues. At least, that's the general method he seems to have described using; it has serious limits in any project I've seen trying that approach - stuff can get very out of hand, very quickly.
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That's an average of only 28 words per picture. Your own message above is 28 words. When you consider that renders commonly have multiple lines of dialogue, I think it's a very realistic number.
"I'm delaying this update for neighbor content"
~months later~
"I'm delaying this update AND cutting down the neighbor content"
Wew lad, truly a rollercoaster of emotions.
~months later~
"I'm delaying this update AND cutting down the neighbor content"
Wew lad, truly a rollercoaster of emotions.
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I was right. Icstor continued to lie. By October 10 he would say the game will be released at the end of October. Then it will be the end of November again ... I thought up that the game would have been abandoned. Donors are too naive to easily forgive him. That makes him a lazy, liar.
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Please try to grasp the total amount we're talking about here. You assume each and every render is ment to be shown as a picture on it's own with a few lines of dialog? Just to see if it's at all reasonable, let's assume that an average reader manages 250 words per minute. Just reading all the text in this update takes more than four hours. If you spend three seconds per picture, then that's an additional two hours. All in all six hours if the system will pump new pictures and new text non stop and you just watch it passively. We're talking something along the lines of two Lord of the Rings-movies.
As soon as you add any kind of interactivity here, the time will increase exponentially.
And we're not at all considering the amount of work needed to produce 60k words of text in something like a game such as this.
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Hi everyone,
I think this needs to be said because lately there have been a lot of negative comments towards myself. It has made me stop reading comments and messages I receive.
As I already told everyone in my most recent post all of my Patrons from the past few months will receive the game even if they stop support me! Every one of you can stop supporting me and still receiving the game in the next month!
That's kind of unfair. There's nothing simple about making these games. This one is the best one I've ever played. If he's duping us contributors then that sucks, but we aren't talking about some studio with a lot of employees. It's just one or two pervy dudes making some seriously good content.
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I don't see where we're disagreeing? That sounds very reasonable to me in terms of how much time I expect the new update to take to play through. It took me about 3 hours to complete the 0.5 update content. So 0.6 taking over twice as long, considering it's twice the size, makes sense.