Ren'Py Completed Milfy City [v1.0e] [ICSTOR]

[Deleted member 833007]

LOL. It is not the developer? So you mean to say that if stealing was legal. And a person went around stealing other's property. Then the person stealing is not really at fault, it is the fault of the system? Have you ever heard of a little concept called "morals"? Just because it is OK to do a thing. It does not make it "right" to do a thing. Just saying.

Contradicting using words like stealing doesnt seem to fit my previous post and your bending it a little putting some of those irrelevant cherry tops that really doesnt go with what i meant to say...Stealing is taking something from someone that doesnt belong to you at the first place to begin with while donating is something someone does with his/her own will and conscious which the patrons are doing..no one is forcing them to pay while ICstor goes merry goes round with his delays and the system --->" PATREON " does not provide any penalty or structure to hold against the creator creating the contents..and talking about morals in a porn forum? Have you seen the tags in a game lately i suggest you take a look much closer then ask me that question again! Just saying.

 

[Q Who]

You opened a massive can of worms by comparing being a game dev to stealing, laws and morals.

Yes, sometimes it can be the system's fault if a person is stealaing, even when it's illegal, like right now. Maybe in your idealistic world, everybody is born equal and the system treats everybody equally.

It's pretty ignorant to just say "oh he is stealing because he doesn't have good morals".

However sadly makeing someone accountent based on morals doesn't work in regards of the law... you may socialy shy someone... but guys following this path normally are all to aware and ready to follow it through.
The fault for such people going unpunished is the system in the end indeed

Stealing was just a simple metaphor. It does not have to be an illegal act. Say cheating on your wife or girlfriend. That is not illegal. I knew guys who would cheat at tennis FFS. The point is that a person is responsible for their own actions.

When I was really young I used to shoplift. I was not rich but the things I stole I could afford. I stole them for the challenge, the thrill if you like. Then I grew up a bit and realized how wrong what I was doing was. I did not stop because I got caught or was afraid of getting caught. I stopped because I became mature enough to know right from wrong.

Just because the Patreon system allows developers to milk the system. Still does not make it the fault of the system. Any more than cheating on your woman is OK because it is legal. If you cheat is it your wife or girlfriend's fault for trusting you? By the same token. Is it the fault of the Patron for trusting the creator to do the right thing either?

The fault lies squarely on the developer. Not the system. If the idea being put forth. Is that it is nieve to have a moral compass. Call me nieve, then. But I sleep very well at night without guilt. A happy sucker.

I just read the lost post. I hate to say it but it seems that personal accountability has gone out the window in the 21st century. Things are always someone else's fault. Democrats, Republicans, evil corporations, or pick your poison. And I am not talking about anything religious here. Go ahead and blame Patreon if you so choose. I will blame creators who game the system, myself.

I am just expressing a personal world view. People are free to think is they choose. No skin off of my nose as it would be. It's just how I see it and nothing more.

BTW, that last post has to be done via a translator. No one was "accusing" you of anything. Your opinion is not subject to "accusation", just "observation" or "debate".

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[Barbaric -Shelf]

its because of bullshit like this i dont donate... its almost as bad as bethesda

 

[Evangelion-01]

Stealing was just a simple metaphor. It does not have to be an illegal act. Say cheating on your wife or girlfriend. That is not illegal. I knew guys who would cheat at tennis FFS. The point is that a person is responsible for their own actions.

When I was really young I used to shoplift. I was not rich but the things I stole I could afford. I stole them for the challenge, the thrill if you like. Then I grew up a bit and realized how wrong what I was doing was. I did not stop because I got caught or was afraid of getting caught. I stopped because I became mature enough to know right from wrong.

Just because the Patreon system allows developers to milk the system. Still does not make it the fault of the system. Any more than cheating on your woman is OK because it is legal. If you cheat is it your wife or girlfriend's fault for trusting you? By the same token. Is it the fault of the Patron for trusting the creator to do the right thing either?

The fault lies squarely on the developer. Not the system. If the idea being put forth. Is that it is nieve to have a moral compass. Call me nieve, then. But I sleep very well at night without guilt. A happy sucker.

I just read the lost post. I hate to say it but it seems that personal accountability has gone out the window in the 21st century. Things are always someone else's fault. Democrats, Republicans, evil corporations, or pick your poison. And I am not talking about anything religious here. Go ahead and blame Patreon if you so choose. I will blame creators who game the system, myself.

I am just expressing a personal world view. People are free to think is they choose. No skin off of my nose as it would be. It's just how I see it and nothing more.

BTW, that last post has to be done via a translator. No one was "accusing" you of anything. Your opinion is not subject to "accusation", just "observation" or "debate".

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Still just saying it's not Patreons fault that people search for ways to abuse it... it's their lack of actions against such movements.
The most famous case for this is probably "Breading Season" and that happened when Patreon was still young.
Currently the best you can do is "report" a creator but than again the game would be canceled and the site taken down, since in ICStors case he is violating their rules in regards of content.
Also each creator is the Admin to his Subforum/Page allowing them to delete comments they don't fancy.
You can't even "rate" a creator only the game... Milfy City can draw in a high rateing from the previous builds but him personally would have an incredible low rateing as his lacks of communication and constant questionable delays would probably be known by now.
Creators of Porn probably won't be able to grow up anymore, your morale compass had to align itself through puperty I assume, but I doubt you'll find any successful creators still caught up with that (or atleast I hope so).

 

[Joraell]

its because of bullshit like this i dont donate... its almost as bad as bethesda

Bethseda? Ouch. Things getting serious )

 

[Oldtoothlessbasterd]

I'm almost Convinced Incstors Real name is Derick Smart!.
I mean at this stage it would make sense as both the track records line up!.
(If you don't Know who Derick Smart Google him.) "he's the game creator famous for a lot of bad practices"

 

[Irgendwie Irgendwo]

(If you don't Know who Derick Smart Google him.) "he's the game creator famous for a lot of bad practices"

Or, in order to find him, better google Derek Smart.

 

[goobdoob]

Still just saying it's not Patreons fault that people search for ways to abuse it... it's their lack of actions against such movements.
The most famous case for this is probably "Breading Season" and that happened when Patreon was still young.
Currently the best you can do is "report" a creator but than again the game would be canceled and the site taken down, since in ICStors case he is violating their rules in regards of content.
Also each creator is the Admin to his Subforum/Page allowing them to delete comments they don't fancy.
You can't even "rate" a creator only the game... Milfy City can draw in a high rateing from the previous builds but him personally would have an incredible low rateing as his lacks of communication and constant questionable delays would probably be known by now.
Creators of Porn probably won't be able to grow up anymore, your morale compass had to align itself through puperty I assume, but I doubt you'll find any successful creators still caught up with that (or atleast I hope so).

How is ICSTOR violating Patreon's rules?

 

[dirtythiccboi]

rofl people were jokingly saying "Oh we'll see the update in March" ...I don't think they were joking :/

 

[Elinan]

rofl people were jokingly saying "Oh we'll see the update in March" ...I don't think they were joking :/

I said it, and I wasn't joking 90% or 100% 29 feb and then testing phase with some "problems" to late march, and then 3-4 fix patches to June. and then 0.8 Jan-Feb 2021

 

[Elinan]

And that's the reason, why we cannot have nice things.

Well, it's a fair question actually. Maybe he's new to this thread/game.

 

[Winterfire]

guys
milfy city is like the best adult game available, it takes time to create high quality updates.
I am sure to mke such good graphics and sex icstor has to redo things over and oer until they turn perfect I
I am sur ehe works very hard ebery day but he is only human he nedds tlepp eqt

i elieve in him and can't wait to play 0.7!! keep up the goo work

 

[Elinan]

guys
milfy city is like the best adult game available, it takes time to create high quality updates.
I am sure to mke such good graphics and sex icstor has to redo things over and oer until they turn perfect I
I am sur ehe works very hard ebery day but he is only human he nedds tlepp eqt

i elieve in him and can't wait to play 0.7!! keep up the goo work

He even admit that he's beeing ill and not been working on the game and been bedridden from time to time, so he's not working on the game. And he keep lying and lying and he can't keep track of all his lies.
But, ye, keep up the good work

 

[Joraell]

Well, it's a fair question actually. Maybe he's new to this thread/game.

thats why it is forum you can read older posts, you know? it's good feature of forum. And that's why it is much better than fc*ng chat ! Jesus christ!

 

[Winterfire]

He even admit that he's beeing ill and not been working on the game and been bedridden from time to time, so he's not working on the game. And he keep lying and lying and he can't keep track of all his lies.
But, ye, keep up the good work

eberyone can fell sick like me or you, he make milfy city but he is still humn like us
dont you read the news like corona virus and flu, he needs to take care of his health to make good sex update siwth carolin

 

[Elinan]

thats why it is forum you can read older posts, you know? it's good feature of forum. And that's why it is much better than fc*ng chat ! Jesus christ!

Your posts are a waste of space, instead of making stupid replies, how about answering the question, or even better not reply at all, otherwise people like him will have to keep scrolling through your stupid replies to find the answer. And the search function on this site is terrrrrrible.

 

[Joraell]

Your posts are a waste of space, instead of making stupid replies, how about answering the question, or even better not reply at all, otherwise people like him will have to keep scrolling through your stupid replies to find the answer. And the search function on this site is terrrrrrible.

And this your posts have any possitive? I don't think so.

 

[Winterfire]

guys dont fight we're all fans of milfy city
we should wrtie positive messages to icstor so he heals and makes updates fadter

 

[Evangelion-01]

How is ICSTOR violating Patreon's rules?

Even without IC patch he sometimes uses family related terms for adressing the people closest to the MC
an oversight... but that can cost him

eberyone can fell sick like me or you, he make milfy city but he is still humn like us
dont you read the news like corona virus and flu, he needs to take care of his health to make good sex update siwth carolin

Caroline's Update has already been released... 1 year later than announced even.
And it was the worst in regards of sex scenes of what we have seen of him ever since this project started

 

[boxedjack]

I feel like Patreons policy for some time has been to not be overly strict when it comes to games that feature prohibited content. Milfy City is not exactly subtle but as long as you don't advertize anything that's against the rules on Patreon itself, you should be fine.
I can think of at least one games that has incest content, doesn't require a patch and has been on Patreon for over a year.