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NaughtyCatEnt.

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Sadly, it is really underrepresented - well, perhaps it's not the best word for it; I mean it looks like people just don't know it exists. Meanwhile some regular Daz3D stuff gets thousands of patrons!

I tried to help promoting the game about a year ago - uploaded some artwork to several rule 34 sites - but other than that (and it looks like this one wasn't very effective promotion method) I just can't come up with any idea on how to get the game the popularity it deserves.
I find the concept of this work totally different, in a good way! From day one it got me excited! In the other hand I think many people became way too lazy to use their power of imagination... I enjoyed every single sentence that I've read on the screen, half imagining and half seeing the picture.
 

DankCornelius

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Sadly, it is really underrepresented - well, perhaps it's not the best word for it; I mean it looks like people just don't know it exists. Meanwhile some regular Daz3D stuff gets thousands of patrons!

I tried to help promoting the game about a year ago - uploaded some artwork to several rule 34 sites - but other than that (and it looks like this one wasn't very effective promotion method) I just can't come up with any idea on how to get the game the popularity it deserves.
I think if the actual game was on some site like newgrounds or something alike, the game would get a lot more coverage comparative to art stills, as the art in the game is almost incomparable in quality and style for a free erotic visual novel game, which gives it a lot more credence than most other games, added on top of the top quality text and multiple storylines already in the game.
 

Arnav Dasari

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I think if the actual game was on some site like newgrounds or something alike, the game would get a lot more coverage comparative to art stills
But isn't Newgrounds a site for the flash games/animations? I don't think it's feasible for MT to move from RenPy to Flash, especially now, since Adobe pulled the life support from Flash. Anyway, I checked and it looks that Newgrounds accepts not only Flash games, but pictures and videos as well. Then there's Hentai-Foundry - but it is a site for the artists, so one of the team members would have to register there and upload the art. I also checked Nutaku just in case - looks like they're interested in taking FTP games and adding monetization to them, so not exactly the path I'd want MT to take.

Anyway, while checking all of these sites I found an artist with a pretty unique visual style - he's active on , since 2017, and even here, on F95 - Afterglow. The ? 100 patrons, 370 dollars per month.

I hate to be a naysayer, and I guess I can ask the devs for permission on their Discord and if they would give it (as they did before for other sites) I can upload their art on Newgrounds and Hentai-Foundry. But would it really bring them hundreds of new patrons? I know that the devs make regular cross-promotion posts with other creators on their Patreon page, I know there are reviews and walkthroughs of the Milky Touch on Youtube with thousands of views, some of the artwork on R34 received more than hundred of likes which is not too shabby for original content - but none of it seems to translate into widespread renown.
 

mgtoons

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I'm looking at the title graphic and I'm just curious why all the women look the same? Is it just that image or is it like that in the game?
 

DankCornelius

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But isn't Newgrounds a site for the flash games/animations? I don't think it's feasible for MT to move from RenPy to Flash, especially now, since Adobe pulled the life support from Flash. Anyway, I checked and it looks that Newgrounds accepts not only Flash games, but pictures and videos as well. Then there's Hentai-Foundry - but it is a site for the artists, so one of the team members would have to register there and upload the art. I also checked Nutaku just in case - looks like they're interested in taking FTP games and adding monetization to them, so not exactly the path I'd want MT to take.
They do have an account on newgrounds, , and you don't need flash to host on newgrounds, as there's already a bunch of RenPy games on there already. Besides, I'm not saying they should upload it onto any specific site, I'm just saying that if the game was on a site where downloading it is not required, it would be more accessible in general.
 

Arnav Dasari

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I'm looking at the title graphic and I'm just curious why all the women look the same? Is it just that image or is it like that in the game?
They don't look the same, they are drawn in the same style. Let's look at them in detail:

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1, 2 and 3 are all related - 1 and 2 are sisters, 1 and 3 are a mother and her daughter. 1 and 2 do indeed look like sisters - the same eye shape, the same jaw, but different eyebrows and 2's chin is slightly heavier. 1 and 3 - I'd say they are actually too different to look like relatives - different brows, different eyes, 3 has longer nose and more angular jaw. 4 and 5 are a mother and a daughter again, and this time it shows - they do look like a spitting image of each other - as they should. Now, 6 and 7 are unrelated to anyone, including each other. That's the only case where someone can say that their resemblance is unwarranted - and yet 6 got smaller eyes and fuller lips than 7, her nose is straight, her jaw is slightly softer and her nasolabial folds aren't as pronounced. (In fact, I was surprised to learn that she's about 35-40 years old, I expected her to be about 10 years younger than that.)

there's already a bunch of RenPy games on there already.
Really? Didn't know about that.

Besides, I'm not saying they should upload it onto any specific site, I'm just saying that if the game was on a site where downloading it is not required, it would be more accessible in general.
I don't know any other sites like that. Would you have some candidates?

Ok then, should I suggest them to put the game (the Chapter 15 version, which is free, or a version with a first couple of days as a demo) on Newgrounds on their discord?
 

mgtoons

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They don't look the same, they are drawn in the same style. Let's look at them in detail:

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1, 2 and 3 are all related - 1 and 2 are sisters, 1 and 3 are a mother and her daughter. 1 and 2 do indeed look like sisters - the same eye shape, the same jaw, but different eyebrows and 2's chin is slightly heavier. 1 and 3 - I'd say they are actually too different to look like relatives - different brows, different eyes, 3 has longer nose and more angular jaw. 4 and 5 are a mother and a daughter again, and this time it shows - they do look like a spitting image of each other - as they should. Now, 6 and 7 are unrelated to anyone, including each other. That's the only case where someone can say that their resemblance is unwarranted - and yet 6 got smaller eyes and fuller lips than 7, her nose is straight, her jaw is slightly softer and her nasolabial folds aren't as pronounced. (In fact, I was surprised to learn that she's about 35-40 years old, I expected her to be about 10 years younger than that.)
Sounds like more than a few are related to each other. That would explain some of it. The faces and body types look very close to me however across the board. But that's just my impression.
 

qazxsw80

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They don't look the same, they are drawn in the same style. Let's look at them in detail:
Maybe all those people who say that all the women in the game look the same are from Asia or something? I've noticed that for them it is sometimes quite difficult to distinguish differences in the faces of white people.

To me, all the women look distinctly different, maybe except for Karen and Octavia. And I'm talking about not the pictures you showed (on them they are very different), but some arts in the game. Certainly, in the club anal scene it could have easily been Karen.
 
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mgtoons

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Maybe all those people who say that all the women in the game look the same are from Asia or something? I've noticed that for them it is sometimes quite difficult to distinguish differences in the faces of white people.

To me, all the women look distinctly different, maybe except for Karen and Octavia. And I'm talking about not the pictures you showed (on them they are very different), but some arts in the game. Certainly, in the club anal scene it could have easily been Karen.
Nah, I'm a red blooded American. I just enjoy a variety of body types, faces with character, and varying ages from loli all the way to grandma.
 

Arnav Dasari

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Certainly, in the club anal scene it could have easily been Karen.
I'd say that whole scene fits Karen better. But I don't want this post to devolve into another rant.

Speaking about the visual side, it doesn't help that Karen and Octavia, both being blondes, also have similar hairstyles:

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Their everyday hairstyles are parted in the middle with bangs hanging from both sides. Octavia has a very long ponytail that goes to her waist, but we never see it.

Their "evening" hairstyles:

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both are wavy middle-length bobs. Looks like Octavia fixes all her hair up in this hairstyle, with bobby pins or something, which results in further resembling of Karen's hair.

That's why I suggested on Discord to change the everyday hairstyle for Octavia to something that would show the length of her hair on her sprite, something like this perhaps:

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with a part of her hair over the shoulder. As for the "Mask" look, I guess she could have a more heavy make up, with red lips and dark eyeshadow:

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Arnav Dasari

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Continuing on the theme of visual differences between characters; my only serious beef with regards to visuals is that every woman in the game is cleanly shaven down there. The fact that no one has any sort of pubic hair is objectively doubtful, subjectively questionable (not everyone is a fan of bald and bold) and denies the characters further characterization, pardon the pun. Right now their bodies all look like they belong to porn stars (minus the tattoos), while if they had different styles of pubic hair it could've add another distinctive feature that would tell us about their personalities.

For example Claudia and Octavia would probably have conservative and neat triangles, Karen and Shirley would have French waxing (a strip of hair), with Shirley having a very thin strip at that, and Riley can have all the hair removed to emphasize her youth.
 
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mgtoons

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Continuing on the theme of visual differences between characters; my only serious beef with regards to visuals is that every woman in the game is cleanly shaven down there. The fact that no one has any sort of pubic hair is objectively doubtful, subjectively questionable (not everyone is a fan of bald and bold) and denies the characters further characterization, pardon the pun. Right now their bodies all look like they belong to porn stars (minus the tattoos), while if they had different styles of pubic hair it could've add another distinctive feature that would tell us about their personalities.

For example Claudia and Octavia would probably have conservative and neat triangles, Karen and Shirley would have French waxing (a strip of hair), with Shirley having a very thin strip at that, and Riley can have all the hair removed to emphasize her youth.
I myself find some form of pubic hair more attractive than bald. I may be mistaken but I think one reason it is so prevalent in these games is because it is just easier to create bald pubic areas in the renders.
 

Arnav Dasari

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I myself find some form of pubic hair more attractive than bald. I may be mistaken but I think one reason it is so prevalent in these games is because it is just easier to create bald pubic areas in the renders.
Probably, but here we have 2D art, so it might be just the artist's preference.
 

qazxsw80

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It's coming on Friday right? Is there any specifics on what's going to be in the update?
Well, their discord channel says:
April 9th - Chapter 19 Alpha
Five Scenes (including one animation)
Sound Effect would receive a big update
Brand new unique BGMs
Day 19 fully voiced
They never say anything specific about the upcoming scenes. Probably there are hints in their patreon posts, but since no one cares enough to publish them here, who knows what's there. Personally, I'm going to donate 20 or 40 dollars once the game is finished, but donating every month for a year or more is crazily expensive for me.
 
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DankCornelius

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They never say anything specific about the upcoming scenes. Probably there are hints in their patreon posts, but since no one cares enough to publish them here, who knows what's there. Personally, I'm going to donate 20 or 40 dollars once the game is finished, but donating every month for a year or more is crazily expensive for me.
Seeing the Claudia specific posts since 18 was released, I would believe what lordfridge9 said is pretty much what we can expect. By then, I think there'll be a boost again on the thread, so maybe more specifics on content afterwards will be delved into. Also, I just realized it's probably going to take a few years for the game to be entirely finished, if there's going to be 30 chapters, an odd thought really, though they would still deserve all the support by then.
 
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