VN Ren'Py Completed Milky Touch [Final] [Studio Kuma]

[Arnav Dasari]

Come on... Are you seriously telling me that the woman in the picture is ugly?

I'd say her pose is ugly. It simply lacks the elegance I grew accustomed to associate with Octavia. Would be better if her legs were down on the ground instead of that "dead frog" pose. But of course, it's all highly subjective.

she has undergone some serious sex training before that, probably brainwashing or something. Those guys at the club are supposed to know how to break women and turn them into submissive hookers.

Yeah, and this is the biggest source of my personal salt about the D19 update. I hope at least the romantic path with her would be sweet.

I still wonder why there is not a single scene with Ashley, the sister, in the entire game.

Don't worry, they've got your back: "First thing first, I guess we'll get our hands on our first Ashley scene in April "

I mean, it is a erotic visual novel about a high school kid. Getting a sister is a given.

Let's say Ashley is not just Katelyn's secretary, but, maybe, her lover or something. Considering that Katelyn is very dominant and so on, there could be some pretty kinky oppotunities, like BDSM ones, for example.

You know, it's funny, but I have the exact same feelings about them two. Exact same except reversed. To quote myself from the team's discord:

"... something about Katelyn just whispers "BDSM" into my ear. Would love to see her in leather or latex."

"... this morning I had one of these "half-woke" thoughts that just spring to the brain out of nowhere. Half a thought half a dream. It was about Katelyn having a special basement room in her house, where Ashley would help her to relieve the stress of being always in charge, always on top. As we know, Ashley is always ready to provide a helping hand to her aunt. Or a helping whip, may be?.. "

Aaand straying from the topic of Katelyn, but expanding on the BDSM theme:

"... given the nature of the "Mask" club, it probably does have a room or two with accessories of that particular kind. Thinking how my favourite "Olivia" - a dark alter-ego of Octavia, who is (almost) always focused, strict and self-controlled - is so meek, so frail and ready to please. So submissive. A perfect slave. Her inner dynamic reminds me a bit of Eva/Tatyana from MGS3.

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And of course, there is Karen. Now, this one definitely deserves to be punished. And definitely has a femdom streak in her. I wouldn't be surprised to discover that Victor's upbringing included punishing him quite harshly for slight misdemeanors, then being spoiled with expensive toys, all owing for his mother's mood swings. May be that's why he ended up the way he is. Such a childhood would've given him a couple of weird fetishes - and a burning desire for revenge."

 

[qazxsw80]

I'd say her pose is ugly. It simply lacks the elegance I grew accustomed to associate with Octavia. Would be better if her legs were down on the ground instead of that "dead frog" pose. But of course, it's all highly subjective.

I like the pose. It fits perfectly a sexual intercourse between a hooker and a client. It would look silly in the romantic route, but it is a great one for a corruption route.
What I'm disappointed about this Octavia route is that we are not shown the process of training or "corruption" of Octavia. Only the end result. The first scene at the club was in a way better in this regard since the MC eavesdrops the events behind the scene (how Octavia reacts to all that and so on). I'm not sure how it could have been realised, but, maybe, the MC is shown the tape of the process of training of Octavia or something.

So submissive. A perfect slave.

Actually, the most submissive character in the game is Claudia. She still loves her dominant asshole husband, even though he treats her like shit. She is easily pushed to do things she doesn't really want to by Karen and her flight attendent friend. She could be a perfect slave for the MC. But I doubt that Kuma is going to make such a route.
Actually, I was a bit disappointed when there was no option for Claudia to undergone the training at the club. I mean the MC could have a choice. Maybe a choice to train Claudia would lead to a bad ending or something, but still it would be awesome.

 

[DankCornelius]

What I'm disappointed about this Octavia route is that we are not shown the process of training or "corruption" of Octavia. Only the end result. The first scene at the club was in a way better in this regard since the MC eavesdrops the events behind the scene (how Octavia reacts to all that and so on). I'm not sure how it could have been realised, but, maybe, the MC is shown the tape of the process of training of Octavia or something.

That is the exact reasoning of why I think the scene is off, and just why the scene doesn't really work as part of Octavia's route. Though it's nice and is pretty good as a sex scene in the game, it doesn't feel like a natural progression for Octavia, rather just a blunt sex scene that could have been amazing if we saw the lead up to this critical scene. It feels vapid, because there is really no build up to it, unlike that first mask scene as you said, where the tension of MC and Octavia is elevated to the breaking point of when we're given the option to reveal ourselves or proposition her for oral. Without all of that set up and time, the payoff is fairly meaningless as a result, being not satisfactory.

Actually, I was a bit disappointed when there was no option for Claudia to undergone the training at the club. I mean the MC could have a choice. Maybe a choice to train Claudia would lead to a bad ending or something, but still it would be awesome.

Claudia is going to be working at the Mask, if you go down that corruption route, as future content will have her in a similar situation to Octavia. This was set up in D19's update.

 

[qazxsw80]

Claudia is going to be working at the Mask, if you go down that corruption route, as future content will have her in a similar situation to Octavia. This was set up in D19's update.

I'm not sure about that. The MC has already agreed with the boss of the club that Claudia is not going to do anything at the Mask, except meeting him. No training, no anything. The player can't do anything about it. No choice at all.

 

[DankCornelius]

I'm not sure about that. The MC has already agreed with the boss of the club that Claudia is not going to do anything at the Mask, except meeting him. No training, no anything. The player can't do anything about it. No choice at all.

Claudia being in the Mask would most likely mean that there is going to being sexual content for her in the club, there may be an option not to commit to it, but the likelihood of the devs not doing any scenes at all for Claudia in the Mask seems almost absurd in not seeing where it's going.

 

[qazxsw80]

Claudia being in the Mask would most likely mean that there is going to being sexual content for her in the club, there may be an option not to commit to it, but the likelihood of the devs not doing any scenes at all for Claudia in the Mask seems almost absurd in not seeing where it's going.

That's not what I meant when I wrote:

Actually, I was a bit disappointed when there was no option for Claudia to undergone the training at the club. I mean the MC could have a choice. Maybe a choice to train Claudia would lead to a bad ending or something, but still it would be awesome.

Of course, I'm sure that there will be some sexual content with Claudia at the club with the MC (but probably not anyone else). What I meant is that there is no option for Claudio to undergo special sexual training to prepare her for the job. The one that Octavia is supposed to go through and that made her that cock-craving slut. It would be fun to have an option where the player can choose whether Claudio goes through the training and it affect her personality and sexual behavior, or Claudio is exempt from the training (like it is now in the game).
When the MC visits the club at the end of day 18, that guy Monroe (or whatever his name) asks the MC whether he wants Claudio to be prepared (taught) to serve him or not. The MC refuses. That's what I'm talking about.

 

[Arnav Dasari]

It fits perfectly a sexual intercourse between a hooker and a client.

Exactly. I'm pretty sure you already saw my posts where I was talking about the exact same impression.

What I'm disappointed about this Octavia route is that we are not shown the process of training or "corruption" of Octavia.

Exactly x2.

I'm not sure how it could have been realised, but, maybe, the MC is shown the tape of the process of training of Octavia or something.

I'd prefer him doing the "training", even if it'd be described by text, not by pictures. Her doing something off-screen with someone else is getting dangerously close to the NTR territory. Now, I know that NTR nowadays became sort of a boogieman of porn games, and people are very vocal about this stuff, and sometimes can label pretty much everything as NTR - but a character participating in sexual activities with someone else without any choice from the player's side and with MC actively consenting to it... Yeah, I would say it is getting close to the... you know, the c*ckoldry, may Allah forgive me for uttering such a word. It could be mitigated somewhat if we would be assured that she received "training" from the female staff members only.

And, you know, it's not that I'm completely against that stuff - to each his own, after all, I myself proposed in the past something along these lines: "I guess, it could be fun to order Octavia to "serve" Weng in her corruption route - if player is into that kind of thing - reluctant hot women with "ugly old bastards" etc. The dude's gonna be so happy!" But only as long as the player is given a clear choice to go that way.

Anyway, the only training I'd let the club staff to do is the striptease training.

Actually, the most submissive character in the game is Claudia. She still loves her dominant asshole husband, even though he treats her like shit. She is easily pushed to do things she doesn't really want to by Karen and her flight attendent friend.

I won't call her submissive, rather kind-hearted and soft. Yeah she's easily pushed but I don't think that deep down she didn't like the things they did. I believe that her corruption should lead to her becoming not a slave (to MC) but on the contrary, a more liberated person, accepting and enjoying her sexual cravings towards MC and her bisexuality.

Meanwhile in the very first "Mask" scene Octavia broke and sucked a strangers cock after only a light pressure. I'd prefer that pattern to hold over her other scenes - as MC pressures her more so she's yields to his more extreme demands. For example the D18 scene could've went like that: he demands anal, she refuses initially (stating that she has never done this before and he'd hurt her), he pressures her, saying that she either does what he wants, or he would call for a couple of other female servants, order them to hold her to the floor and screw her the way he wants anyway - and only after that she would yield. Instead we're having "it's your second visit and I'm ready to do anything already because of some training that happened while you were away."

Actually, I was a bit disappointed when there was no option for Claudia to undergone the training at the club. I mean the MC could have a choice. Maybe a choice to train Claudia would lead to a bad ending or something, but still it would be awesome.

Well her corruption route just started, who knows what future holds. I'd still prefer MC to do all of the necessary "training" himself though. But you know, I do remember your bad ending proposal and yeah, it would be cool to have that. A real bad ending, so to say.

 

[durtypicturz]

Maybe a stupid question, but if I download now the Chapter 18 version - am I missing out on something from the previous chapters? Do I have to go through an archive, or is it an all in one up till chapter 18?

 

[bloek]

Not at all. It gets updated not replaced. So basically you get everything that's been released up to this point.

 

[DankCornelius]

And, you know, it's not that I'm completely against that stuff - to each his own, after all, I myself proposed in the past something along these lines: "I guess, it could be fun to order Octavia to "serve" Weng in her corruption route - if player is into that kind of thing - reluctant hot women with "ugly old bastards" etc. The dude's gonna be so happy!" But only as long as the player is given a clear choice to go that way.

That actually sounds like a really cool idea, that there could be a choice on whether MC wants Octavia to practice on Weng or not. I think you could actually tie that in with Octavia's training and give more development on her becoming more whorish as a result, without needing MC there, nor a lot of artwork, or even that much added text, as MC would be more in control of how Octavia turns out in this path, while not being physically there.

 

[Arnav Dasari]

... I think you could actually tie that in with Octavia's training and give more development on her becoming more whorish as a result ...

I guess it could've been done like that - at the first meeting with Monroe, the "Mask" supervisor, player is given a choice whether Octavia would be trained by other people or MC would be the only person to interact with her sexually. Ideally this choice should lead to two different variants of her corruption route, complete with different scenes (like, say, MC "gifting" her to Weng and watching) and endings; one path would lead to her becoming a proper hooker, and another path would turn her into MC's slave. But of course it would've added an additional workload on the artist and writers team, so the compromise solution could be to have the same scenes (i.e. pictures/animations) but to alter the accompanying text slightly - in one case she'd mention being trained by someone, in another she'd say she's been "training" on her own (with sex toys, I guess).

I feel that the easter egg content like the RE2 and Cyberpunk scenes are not just pointless, but a huge waste of time. ... the artist could work on other things

Unfortunately, I have to agree. There's one thing that really brings the visual quality of the game down and I'm talking about the black silhouettes of the majority of NPCs:



They really look like a temporary substitute for proper sprites and can lend to a poor first impression of a top-notch game in other respects. In my opinion it would bring the quality up if they were to be changed at least to a sketch-sprites akin to the style of Victor's sprite, or to how MC looks in scenes:

 

[Abhay]

When can we expect another sex scene between MC and his mother Claudia? Till now there is only one sex scene (washroom) between them. Please reply. Thanks a lot in advance.

 

[NaughtyCatEnt.]

I like the game, just finished playing it from day 1. it was a lovely experience with the beautiful artwork, diffrent!

 

[Arnav Dasari]

I like the game, just finished playing it from day 1. it was a lovely experience with the beautiful artwork, diffrent!

Sadly, it is really underrepresented - well, perhaps it's not the best word for it; I mean it looks like people just don't know it exists. Meanwhile some regular Daz3D stuff gets thousands of patrons!

I tried to help promoting the game about a year ago - uploaded some artwork to several rule 34 sites - but other than that (and it looks like this one wasn't very effective promotion method) I just can't come up with any idea on how to get the game the popularity it deserves.

 

[NaughtyCatEnt.]

Sadly, it is really underrepresented - well, perhaps it's not the best word for it; I mean it looks like people just don't know it exists. Meanwhile some regular Daz3D stuff gets thousands of patrons!

I tried to help promoting the game about a year ago - uploaded some artwork to several rule 34 sites - but other than that (and it looks like this one wasn't very effective promotion method) I just can't come up with any idea on how to get the game the popularity it deserves.

I find the concept of this work totally different, in a good way! From day one it got me excited! In the other hand I think many people became way too lazy to use their power of imagination... I enjoyed every single sentence that I've read on the screen, half imagining and half seeing the picture.

 

[DankCornelius]

Sadly, it is really underrepresented - well, perhaps it's not the best word for it; I mean it looks like people just don't know it exists. Meanwhile some regular Daz3D stuff gets thousands of patrons!

I tried to help promoting the game about a year ago - uploaded some artwork to several rule 34 sites - but other than that (and it looks like this one wasn't very effective promotion method) I just can't come up with any idea on how to get the game the popularity it deserves.

I think if the actual game was on some site like newgrounds or something alike, the game would get a lot more coverage comparative to art stills, as the art in the game is almost incomparable in quality and style for a free erotic visual novel game, which gives it a lot more credence than most other games, added on top of the top quality text and multiple storylines already in the game.

 

[Arnav Dasari]

I think if the actual game was on some site like newgrounds or something alike, the game would get a lot more coverage comparative to art stills

But isn't Newgrounds a site for the flash games/animations? I don't think it's feasible for MT to move from RenPy to Flash, especially now, since Adobe pulled the life support from Flash. Anyway, I checked and it looks that Newgrounds accepts not only Flash games, but pictures and videos as well. Then there's Hentai-Foundry - but it is a site for the artists, so one of the team members would have to register there and upload the art. I also checked Nutaku just in case - looks like they're interested in taking FTP games and adding monetization to them, so not exactly the path I'd want MT to take.

Anyway, while checking all of these sites I found an artist with a pretty unique visual style - he's active on

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since 2017,

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and even here, on F95 - Afterglow. The

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? 100 patrons, 370 dollars per month.

I hate to be a naysayer, and I guess I can ask the devs for permission on their Discord and if they would give it (as they did before for other sites) I can upload their art on Newgrounds and Hentai-Foundry. But would it really bring them hundreds of new patrons? I know that the devs make regular cross-promotion posts with other creators on their Patreon page, I know there are reviews and walkthroughs of the Milky Touch on Youtube with thousands of views, some of the artwork on R34 received more than hundred of likes which is not too shabby for original content - but none of it seems to translate into widespread renown.

 

[mgtoons]

I'm looking at the title graphic and I'm just curious why all the women look the same? Is it just that image or is it like that in the game?

 

[DankCornelius]

But isn't Newgrounds a site for the flash games/animations? I don't think it's feasible for MT to move from RenPy to Flash, especially now, since Adobe pulled the life support from Flash. Anyway, I checked and it looks that Newgrounds accepts not only Flash games, but pictures and videos as well. Then there's Hentai-Foundry - but it is a site for the artists, so one of the team members would have to register there and upload the art. I also checked Nutaku just in case - looks like they're interested in taking FTP games and adding monetization to them, so not exactly the path I'd want MT to take.

They do have an account on newgrounds,

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, and you don't need flash to host on newgrounds, as there's already a bunch of RenPy games on there already. Besides, I'm not saying they should upload it onto any specific site, I'm just saying that if the game was on a site where downloading it is not required, it would be more accessible in general.

 

[Arnav Dasari]

I'm looking at the title graphic and I'm just curious why all the women look the same? Is it just that image or is it like that in the game?

They don't look the same, they are drawn in the same style. Let's look at them in detail:



1, 2 and 3 are all related - 1 and 2 are sisters, 1 and 3 are a mother and her daughter. 1 and 2 do indeed look like sisters - the same eye shape, the same jaw, but different eyebrows and 2's chin is slightly heavier. 1 and 3 - I'd say they are actually too different to look like relatives - different brows, different eyes, 3 has longer nose and more angular jaw. 4 and 5 are a mother and a daughter again, and this time it shows - they do look like a spitting image of each other - as they should. Now, 6 and 7 are unrelated to anyone, including each other. That's the only case where someone can say that their resemblance is unwarranted - and yet 6 got smaller eyes and fuller lips than 7, her nose is straight, her jaw is slightly softer and her nasolabial folds aren't as pronounced. (In fact, I was surprised to learn that she's about 35-40 years old, I expected her to be about 10 years younger than that.)

there's already a bunch of RenPy games on there already.

Really? Didn't know about that.

Besides, I'm not saying they should upload it onto any specific site, I'm just saying that if the game was on a site where downloading it is not required, it would be more accessible in general.

I don't know any other sites like that. Would you have some candidates?

Ok then, should I suggest them to put the game (the Chapter 15 version, which is free, or a version with a first couple of days as a demo) on Newgrounds on their discord?