It is obvious why Octavia behaves differently in the scene - she has undergone some serious sex training before that, probably brainwashing or something. Those guys at the club are supposed to know how to break women and turn them into submissive hookers.
I'd say her pose is ugly. It simply lacks the elegance I grew accustomed to associate with Octavia. Would be better if her legs were down on the ground instead of that "dead frog" pose. But of course, it's all highly subjective.
Yeah, and this is the biggest source of my personal salt about the D19 update. I hope at least the romantic path with her would be sweet.
Don't worry, they've got your back: "First thing first, I guess we'll get our hands on our first Ashley scene in April
"You know, it's funny, but I have the exact same feelings about them two. Exact same except reversed. To quote myself from the team's discord:
I like the pose. It fits perfectly a sexual intercourse between a hooker and a client. It would look silly in the romantic route, but it is a great one for a corruption route.
Actually, the most submissive character in the game is Claudia. She still loves her dominant asshole husband, even though he treats her like shit. She is easily pushed to do things she doesn't really want to by Karen and her flight attendent friend. She could be a perfect slave for the MC. But I doubt that Kuma is going to make such a route.
That is the exact reasoning of why I think the scene is off, and just why the scene doesn't really work as part of Octavia's route. Though it's nice and is pretty good as a sex scene in the game, it doesn't feel like a natural progression for Octavia, rather just a blunt sex scene that could have been amazing if we saw the lead up to this critical scene. It feels vapid, because there is really no build up to it, unlike that first mask scene as you said, where the tension of MC and Octavia is elevated to the breaking point of when we're given the option to reveal ourselves or proposition her for oral. Without all of that set up and time, the payoff is fairly meaningless as a result, being not satisfactory.
Claudia is going to be working at the Mask, if you go down that corruption route, as future content will have her in a similar situation to Octavia. This was set up in D19's update.
I'm not sure about that. The MC has already agreed with the boss of the club that Claudia is not going to do anything at the Mask, except meeting him. No training, no anything. The player can't do anything about it. No choice at all.
Claudia being in the Mask would most likely mean that there is going to being sexual content for her in the club, there may be an option not to commit to it, but the likelihood of the devs not doing any scenes at all for Claudia in the Mask seems almost absurd in not seeing where it's going.
That's not what I meant when I wrote:
Of course, I'm sure that there will be some sexual content with Claudia at the club with the MC (but probably not anyone else). What I meant is that there is no option for Claudio to undergo special sexual training to prepare her for the job. The one that Octavia is supposed to go through and that made her that cock-craving slut. It would be fun to have an option where the player can choose whether Claudio goes through the training and it affect her personality and sexual behavior, or Claudio is exempt from the training (like it is now in the game).
Exactly. I'm pretty sure you already saw my posts where I was talking about the exact same impression.
Exactly x2.
I'd prefer him doing the "training", even if it'd be described by text, not by pictures. Her doing something off-screen with someone else is getting dangerously close to the NTR territory. Now, I know that NTR nowadays became sort of a boogieman of porn games, and people are very vocal about this stuff, and sometimes can label pretty much everything as NTR - but a character participating in sexual activities with someone else without any choice from the player's side and with MC actively consenting to it... Yeah, I would say it is getting close to the... you know, the c*ckoldry, may Allah forgive me for uttering such a word. It could be mitigated somewhat if we would be assured that she received "training" from the female staff members only.
I won't call her submissive, rather kind-hearted and soft. Yeah she's easily pushed but I don't think that deep down she didn't like the things they did. I believe that her corruption should lead to her becoming not a slave (to MC) but on the contrary, a more liberated person, accepting and enjoying her sexual cravings towards MC and her bisexuality.
Well her corruption route just started, who knows what future holds. I'd still prefer MC to do all of the necessary "training" himself though. But you know, I do remember your bad ending proposal and yeah, it would be cool to have that. A real bad ending, so to say.
That actually sounds like a really cool idea, that there could be a choice on whether MC wants Octavia to practice on Weng or not. I think you could actually tie that in with Octavia's training and give more development on her becoming more whorish as a result, without needing MC there, nor a lot of artwork, or even that much added text, as MC would be more in control of how Octavia turns out in this path, while not being physically there.
I guess it could've been done like that - at the first meeting with Monroe, the "Mask" supervisor, player is given a choice whether Octavia would be trained by other people or MC would be the only person to interact with her sexually. Ideally this choice should lead to two different variants of her corruption route, complete with different scenes (like, say, MC "gifting" her to Weng and watching) and endings; one path would lead to her becoming a proper hooker, and another path would turn her into MC's slave. But of course it would've added an additional workload on the artist and writers team, so the compromise solution could be to have the same scenes (i.e. pictures/animations) but to alter the accompanying text slightly - in one case she'd mention being trained by someone, in another she'd say she's been "training" on her own (with sex toys, I guess).
Unfortunately, I have to agree. There's one thing that really brings the visual quality of the game down and I'm talking about the black silhouettes of the majority of NPCs:
Sadly, it is really underrepresented - well, perhaps it's not the best word for it; I mean it looks like people just don't know it exists. Meanwhile some regular Daz3D stuff gets thousands of patrons!
I find the concept of this work totally different, in a good way! From day one it got me excited! In the other hand I think many people became way too lazy to use their power of imagination... I enjoyed every single sentence that I've read on the screen, half imagining and half seeing the picture.
I think if the actual game was on some site like newgrounds or something alike, the game would get a lot more coverage comparative to art stills, as the art in the game is almost incomparable in quality and style for a free erotic visual novel game, which gives it a lot more credence than most other games, added on top of the top quality text and multiple storylines already in the game.
But isn't Newgrounds a site for the flash games/animations? I don't think it's feasible for MT to move from RenPy to Flash, especially now, since Adobe pulled the life support from Flash. Anyway, I checked and it looks that Newgrounds accepts not only Flash games, but pictures and videos as well. Then there's Hentai-Foundry - but it is a site for the artists, so one of the team members would have to register there and upload the art. I also checked Nutaku just in case - looks like they're interested in taking FTP games and adding monetization to them, so not exactly the path I'd want MT to take.
They do have an account on newgrounds,
