Arnav Dasari

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The Octavia scene in the latest update really did not live up to the hype. The art in that scene felt so jarring and out of place with the rest of the game. It feels very... coarse, and not soft & dreamy like every other sex scene. Maybe it'll benefit from a slight re-design.
You mean the pose itself? I do agree somewhat, it looks like something out of a cheap porn movie. But as much as I myself would like to see the scene changed; like at least putting high-heels on Octavia's feet to add some elegance to the pose, I really doubt that the developers can afford to redo visuals that already have been made.

Besides, I have to admit that the pose does correspond to the accompanying text, which describes a routine sex act between a professional prostitute and her client, as I put it earlier. While I don't think the situation itself fits Octavia's personality, the chosen pose does fit a "sex worker does her job while showing off her body for the camera" style.

One final thought - I would rather disagree that sex scenes in corruption routes (be it with Octavia or other characters) should be as soft as in the romantic routes. I believe that unlike romantic routes, where scenes should show us two people in love pleasuring each other, in the corruption routes MC should take more pro-active and, perhaps, even dominating role, being concerned only about his own pleasure - at the expense of his partner. After all, MC that goes to corruption path is not a good guy. And that assertiveness of his should be shown both in text and in chosen poses. Good examples would be the rough doggy-style with Claudia at restaurant's restroom (dominating pose) and Karen's deep throating (both dominating pose and dominating dialogue).
 
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You mean the pose itself? I do agree somewhat, it looks like something out of a cheap porn movie. But as much as I myself would like to see the scene changed; like at least putting high-heels on Octavia's feet to add some elegance to the pose, I really doubt that the developers can afford to redo visuals that already have been made.

Besides, I have to admit that the pose does correspond to the accompanying text, which describes a routine sex act between a professional prostitute and her client, as I put it earlier. While I don't think the situation itself fits Octavia's personality, the chosen pose does fit a "sex worker does her job while showing off her body for the camera" style.

One final thought - I would rather disagree that sex scenes in corruption routes (be it with Octavia or other characters) should be as soft as in the romantic routes. I believe that unlike romantic routes, where scenes should show us two people in love pleasuring each other, in the corruption routes MC should take more pro-active and, perhaps, even dominating role, being concerned only about his own pleasure - at the expense of his partner. After all, MC that goes to corruption path is not a good guy. And that assertiveness of his should be shown both in text and in chosen poses. Good examples would be the rough doggy-style with Claudia at restaurant's restroom (dominating pose) and Karen's deep throating (both dominating pose and dominating dialogue).
It's not just the pose, I think its mainly the face. Looks nothing like Octavia, and actually a little bit ugly.

Corruption route sex scenes should still look soft because its just more coherent with the art style, Claudia's scene at the restroom looks great, but Karen and Octavia's look terrible. Which is really weird because Octavia's blowjob scene in the toilet stall looked amazing.

It's like the author outsourced the work for those two scenes or something...
 
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It's not just the pose, I think its mainly the face. Looks nothing like Octavia, and actually a little bit ugly.

Corruption route sex scenes should still look soft because its just more coherent with the art style, Claudia's scene at the restroom looks great, but Karen and Octavia's look terrible. Which is really weird because Octavia's blowjob scene in the toilet stall looked amazing.

It's like the author outsourced the work for those two scenes or something...
It's more of perspective with the art, as the Claudia and Octavia bathroom scenes are more flat, yet look better due to it, while Karen's blackmail blowjob was at a more skewed angle in its perspective. The mask scene however on top of all that, was much more colder in its execution, as most of the scenes beforehand with Octavia felt more personal and softer with her, making this particular scene stick out in contrast.
 
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It's not just the pose, I think its mainly the face. Looks nothing like Octavia, and actually a little bit ugly.
I'd say her face/stare looks vacant in that scene, as if she's drugged or something. Perhaps the upcoming voice-over for her would breathe some life into the scene.

... Karen ... look terrible.
Which one, the deep throat at the MC's house? Not many would agree with you on that one - I know for sure that it's one of the most popular animations in the game.

Which is really weird because Octavia's blowjob scene in the toilet stall looked amazing.
It did. I especially liked the picture from beneath, with Octavia's shoes and backside. (Can't say I liked the slight smirk on her face though - again, I think it would rather fit Karen than Octavia (unless I completely misjudged Octavia's character) and the text doesn't describe anything like that, instead stating that she looks embarrassed.)
 
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Which one, the deep throat at the MC's house? Not many would agree with you on that one - I know for sure that it's one of the most popular animations in the game.
I think Karen's deep throat fits in the situation comparative to mask sex scene, as the uncomfortable placement of the scene is inkeeping with the situation of Karen essentially being dominated by MC, a role reversal of her being usually the dominant partner.

It did. I especially liked the picture from beneath, with Octavia's shoes and backside. (Can't say I liked the slight smirk on her face though - again, I think it would rather fit Karen than Octavia (unless I completely misjudged Octavia's character) and the text doesn't describe anything like that, instead stating that she looks embarrassed.)
I think Octavia's subtle smirk is an indication that she actually likes being submissive to MC, intentional or not, as she follows his commands increasingly with little hesitation, from MC telling her to meet in the stall, what we can presume from MC convincing her to give him a titjob (She is hesitant here but then again she is literally giving him a titjob in a bathroom), and finally him telling her to suck him off after climaxing. It follows through as progression from MC giving her a massage and groping her, where she also became increasingly aroused and submissive to him, which could further explain her attitude in the stall.

On a side note, I was wondering, during the bathroom scene, 1 of the 7 art pieces drawn was not included in that scene, specifically what I'm talking about is this piece here, where after getting cummed on, Octavia slightly opens her eyes before the cut away to the ground, I'm not sure if there's a specific reason or not.
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I think Karen's deep throat fits in the situation comparative to mask sex scene
Yep.

I think Octavia's subtle smirk is an indication that she actually likes being submissive to MC, intentional or not
That's an interesting thought, and, personally, I would like if her corruption path would go in this direction ("a willing slave to MC", as a wrote earlier). But I can't help thinking that if that's the case, her expression should've been more of a humble and pleading one:

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While that smirk looks almost derisive to me. May be that's just me. May be her expression was supposed to be just lewd. And here once again I return to the beaten track. I don't want her to be lewd. We have Karen and Shirley for that. I don't want Octavia to turn into another Karen they already look too much alike. It's the corruption path? Ok, make the MC do lewd things to her (and her liking it - and him - more and more), not her being lewd.

Before anyone would accuse me of being importunate, I would say to my defence that it's all the developers fault. It's their fault they created characters so captivating that people care about them way beyond masturbating to lewd pictures of naked women. Yeah, it's a shout-out to Riley's crowd.

On a side note, I was wondering, during the bathroom scene, 1 of the 7 art pieces drawn was not included in that scene, specifically I'm talking about is this piece here, where after getting cummed on, Octavia slightly opens her eyes before the cut away to the ground, I'm not sure if this is specific or not.
Woah, that's a great find, Cornelius! Did you find it using some tool like RpaExtract? Regardless, I've no idea why wouldn't they include this shot into the scene. She looks so delectably defeated...
 

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While that smirk looks almost derisive to me. May be that's just me. May be her expression was supposed to be just lewd. And here once again I return to the beaten track. I don't want her to be lewd. We have Karen and Shirley for that. I don't want Octavia to turn into another Karen they already look too much alike. It's the corruption path? Ok, make the MC do lewd things to her (and her liking it - and him - more and more), not her being lewd.
I don't think the smirk is rather lewd by Octavia, but instead passionate, specially for the bathroom scene, the Second Mask visit is a separate issue from this. Karen and Shirley are rather lewd because they're dominant with MC, while Octavia is rather submissive to MC. Her faintly smirking is rather not from controlling the MC, rather it's just a sign of her sexual progression in the lead up of the events. The massage clearly shows she's sexually flustered, yet is not domineering in imposing her lust. Rather, she allows MC to take control, and when he takes control of her, she's almost allowed to be free of being reserved with her feelings. She isn't really smutty about it showing it, but I don't think it would be fair to say she wouldn't feel some erotic behavior in the situation that she's been placed in.

Woah, that's a great find, Cornelius! Did you find it using some tool like RpaExtract? Regardless, I've no idea why wouldn't they include this shot into the scene. She looks so delectably defeated...
Yeah, I actually did use an extractor to see if the file is in the game, which it is, under images it's "D15OctaviaTitJob6", but I also found a lot of the dev's artwork online, as they usually upload art onto various networks, and it seemed convenient to quickly download. From that, I don't know if they forgot to put in or not, because looking back again in the game, the most perfect place to put it seems to be when MC asks her to clean up his jizz, a few lines before the cut away, as her expression seems perfect as a reaction shot.
 
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Let me start that the art in this game is outstanding, and the writing comes along with it. I don't have to elaborate in all the good points that this game has because for me it has a lot (Branching, interesting plot, interesting characters, even if the BF is quite annoying...)

So as criticism, i want to add one complain that i have and i think should be easy to "fix"? i think?...

Well, the sprites and the scenes without them, i think that this game will benefit by improving the usage of those sprites in some conversations, like when you are in your room, or the kitchen, even in the school. Sometimes characters are talking and the sprite is not showed in screen.

I think that the usage of those sprites, with some facial variations could enrich a lot the narrative that this game has. I noticed a lot in conversation with Octavia for example, and the usage of those sprites to do some transitions could replace some CG by doing simple tricks with them.

That's my complain and suggested solution, even if at this point is not possible, i think that it is one area that this dev could improve on.

I hope this dev get more attention because the art is something special, it only needs more reusable sprites for the characters.
 

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I feel that the easter egg content like the RE2 and Cyberpunk scenes are not just pointless, but a huge waste of time. The artist could have done other work that actually helps to complete the story.

Maybe the reason is that the writing is much slower than the drawing so the artist has more time to churn out extras but in that case, the artist could work on other things like re-drawing ugly scenes or new costumes/sprites instead.
 

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I agree with the observations of Octavia in the sex scene, it looked nothing like her and honestly was a bit of a turn off for me, she looked a bit ugly. The two BJ scenes of her are beautiful, not sure whatbhappened
The devs said that they would be doing more content for Octavia in the non-corruption route, so hopefully it will be more in tone with the two scenes prior than with the Mask visit.
 
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I agree with the observations of Octavia in the sex scene, it looked nothing like her and honestly was a bit of a turn off for me, she looked a bit ugly. The two BJ scenes of her are beautiful, not sure whatbhappened
Well, it is not a DAZ 3D game wherer characters always look the same. There is a an artist that draws every picture and artist are known to be quite inconsistent, especially in terms of drawning faces. I guess that's the price of hand-drawn pictures - some pictures are better, some are worse.
I mean, even look at Claudia. Her face is distinctly different even on two avatar pictures (or whatever they're called): Claudia.png

It looks like two different women to me. And I strongly prefer the one on the left.
 

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I agree with the observations of Octavia in the sex scene, it looked nothing like her and honestly was a bit of a turn off for me, she looked a bit ugly. The two BJ scenes of her are beautiful, not sure whatbhappened
Come on... Are you seriously telling me that the woman in the picture is ugly?
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In terms of the quality of pictures, in my opinion, it was one of best scenes in the game. Very sexy and beautifully drawn. Octavia does look different in the picture compared to other pictures, but gorgeous nonetheless.

I still wonder why there is not a single scene with Ashley, the sister, in the entire game. There is even one with that totally insignificant chinese woman. I mean the sister is beautiful. I still hope that there will be something with both Katelyn and Ashley at the same time. Let's say Ashley is not just Katelyn's secretary, but, maybe, her lover or something. Considering that Katelyn is very dominant and so on, there could be some pretty kinky oppotunities, like BDSM ones, for example.
Too bad that it seems like Studio Kuma is not with us here anymore to say something about it.
 
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Come on... Are you seriously telling me that the woman in the picture is ugly?

In terms of the quality of pictures, in my opinion, it was one of best scenes in the game. Very sexy and beautifully drawn. Octavia does look different in the picture compared to other pictures, but gorgeous nonetheless.
I would ask if you believe that without any pre-requisite knowledge of the scene, if you would think the scene is a true follow up to scenes prior, specially in being consistent to how Octavia is portrayed, not on how she's drawn or looks.
 
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