OnyxShadow
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Collection Video Miro collection [2024-08-29] [Affect3D - miro]
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a query, since he see their goal is to make all their content with AI, does anyone know if he is planning to sell their Daz3D characters?
GrobusDobus
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I too love when my porn features cum and lube materializing out of thin air, curtains of hair randomly draping from the top right corner only to disappear moments later, and skin details that shift and move so often it's like I'm looking at Orin the Red from BG3...
Nah, this stuff is shit from a butt.
Nah, this stuff is shit from a butt.
Quintara
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oh come on its not like hes not putting in the work.......XD ai generation is hard work XD i mean using reference pictures and typing in a setting must be so tiring
Mr.Grub
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The problem with AI is that till date it cannot create a full movie flow /, it can only create 5-10 seconds snap videos and people just merge it together to call it a full video. The character design may be good but the break in flow causes the turndown.
This is such an enormous step down from even his very first creations in terms of eroticism, it's absurd. The tech just is not there yet. AI videos may be the future but they sure as sugar are not the present.
Dude I remember getting hard on cerene’s dialouge when she locks the princesses throat on her dck. I can just rewatch that clip instead of watching this AI bullshit.
Why do you state this as if that's the way it will always be? This tech is growing and improving exponentially every single day.
So much so that your reply here is outdated and false. A week ago a new video checkpoint dropped (WAN2.2), and yesterday the tools necessary to do
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, as well as character coherency. The link goes to Civitai... but here it is on
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.The only reason it will still probably take some time to see more long-form content, is you need a beefy GPU. But even those requirements are becoming less and less.
It truly is an amazing time to be alive and I can't wait for the trad animators to start being able to do more content by integrating AI generation into their workflows.
Edited to add: ... and don't even think about complaining about the small glitches in AI. The glitches in trad porn animations are far too many, consistent, and don't keep gooners from getting off. Also... speaking of "short clips".... uhm.
GrobusDobus
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The bits in Royal Descent where Cerene's eyes start to glow white right before she busts are the sorts of little artistic touches you get when you're making art yourself, and not just telling a computer to generate whatever this
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fucking abortion is.I agree, but I can also say that the serious AI creators don't use text2image alone, and yes... if you want lightning coming out of her eyes at orgasm (or just white or red glows), you surely can do that with AI gens. There's tons of video out there with just this effect. Also, creators don't only use AI. It's another addition to the toolbox.
GrobusDobus
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You seem to have misunderstood me, so let me clarify: I know that an AI video tool can generate (dogshit) vfx, I mean that the bits where her eyes glow in Royal Descent are a deliberate, carefully executed bit of artistic expression that required a talented 3D artist and animator to work god knows how long just to achieve that effect in harmony with all the other elements of the animation.
I can't carefully craft a 3D animation where a sweaty, big-dicked vamp girl's eyes glow white right before she busts, but I can take a couple days out of the next couple of months to set up one of these AI-gen workflows and generate something about on par with all this fucking pig shit Miro's been putting out, instead of creating one iota of purposeful art.
Maybe one day, I'll get kicked in the head by a horse at the exact same time I catch some sort of brain-parasite that alters my mental state to the point that I'm able to see any amount of artistic value in AI-generated video porn, but all Miro has managed to get out of me (aside from anger and frustration at his complete fucking abandonment of the shit he goaded me and others into paying for on Patreon) in the last however long he's been doing this AI shit, is a big ol' fuggin' shrug.
Not to shit on you, btw. I'm sure you meant well with your comment.
That sentence contained more art than what Miro has been put out in the last couple of years.
I see some misunderstandings of what the purpose is of AI with regards to animation, let me help clarify.
In traditional 2D/3D animation, animators set "golden poses" and animate the keyframes in between. For example, when animating a person standing up from a chair, the golden poses would be the character sitting down and then standing up. The computer helps interpret the motion in between the sitting down and standing up pose, but the animator has to do the bulk of the work to make the motion look seamless and natural. A tedious process. Now, with the way AI is progressing, AI can take care of a lot of this grunt work, so artists are free to focus on the emphasized parts of the movements, saving a lot of time and effort, and they can focus on the parts that are more important in the animation. This technique is being done in 2D animations like that new Sekiro show that's coming out soon, and major studios like Pixar are experimenting with it, you can pretty much guarantee they will use AI in their workflow in some capacity for their future movies. Its purpose right now in industry is to speed up an animator's workflow, that's it.
Now Miro, being the lazy bugger that he is, wants the AI to do all the work for him. In fact looking at that trailer, it is just hashed together AI generated video segments. He's probably using WAN 2.1 txtToImg by how how generic the characters look, doesn't even look pretrained on anything. For those unaware, this AI model can generate only a few seconds of video at a time, and you can splice the end-frame of each video to the start of the new one to give the appearance that it is one long video, which is what Miro is doing. It's pretty obvious when you pay attention to the constant background changes.
You can also train this AI model to generate certain characters, called Loras (e.g.
In traditional 2D/3D animation, animators set "golden poses" and animate the keyframes in between. For example, when animating a person standing up from a chair, the golden poses would be the character sitting down and then standing up. The computer helps interpret the motion in between the sitting down and standing up pose, but the animator has to do the bulk of the work to make the motion look seamless and natural. A tedious process. Now, with the way AI is progressing, AI can take care of a lot of this grunt work, so artists are free to focus on the emphasized parts of the movements, saving a lot of time and effort, and they can focus on the parts that are more important in the animation. This technique is being done in 2D animations like that new Sekiro show that's coming out soon, and major studios like Pixar are experimenting with it, you can pretty much guarantee they will use AI in their workflow in some capacity for their future movies. Its purpose right now in industry is to speed up an animator's workflow, that's it.
Now Miro, being the lazy bugger that he is, wants the AI to do all the work for him. In fact looking at that trailer, it is just hashed together AI generated video segments. He's probably using WAN 2.1 txtToImg by how how generic the characters look, doesn't even look pretrained on anything. For those unaware, this AI model can generate only a few seconds of video at a time, and you can splice the end-frame of each video to the start of the new one to give the appearance that it is one long video, which is what Miro is doing. It's pretty obvious when you pay attention to the constant background changes.
You can also train this AI model to generate certain characters, called Loras (e.g.
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is trained on Witcher 4 trailer data), so you can prompt the AI to generate a character with that likeness, but Miro's characters does not look pretrained on anything. It literally looks like he downloaded default WAN 2.1 AI model, typed something, spliced some things together, and called it a day. How this guy still has patreons is beyond me
StickyJammedPotato
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I appreciate your post. I don't have the patience to write it all out why AI can be considered a major development for our favorite creators to create more, with less grunt-work, which burns most of them out. There's always going to be slop, but in the hands of talent is when it all gets really interesting and fun.
OK. You've made up your mind that you prefer the creator's to get burned out and frustrated by the slog of dialing in exact quantum kinetics when the computer and a certain tool addition could save them the pain and agony, and get their true creative vision out faster. See. I can write run-on sentences quite well, but not nearly as creative as you can. You win.