Collection Video Miro collection [2024-08-29] [Affect3D - miro]

[GrobusDobus]

I see some misunderstandings of what the purpose is of AI with regards to animation, let me help clarify.

In traditional 2D/3D animation, animators set "golden poses" and animate the keyframes in between. For example, when animating a person standing up from a chair, the golden poses would be the character sitting down and then standing up. The computer helps interpret the motion in between the sitting down and standing up pose, but the animator has to do the bulk of the work to make the motion look seamless and natural. A tedious process. Now, with the way AI is progressing, AI can take care of a lot of this grunt work, so artists are free to focus on the emphasized parts of the movements, saving a lot of time and effort, and they can focus on the parts that are more important in the animation. This technique is being done in 2D animations like that new Sekiro show that's coming out soon, and major studios like Pixar are experimenting with it, you can pretty much guarantee they will use AI in their workflow in some capacity for their future movies. Its purpose right now in industry is to speed up an animator's workflow, that's it.

Now Miro, being the lazy bugger that he is, wants the AI to do all the work for him. In fact looking at that trailer, it is just hashed together AI generated video segments. He's probably using WAN 2.1 txtToImg by how how generic the characters look, doesn't even look pretrained on anything. For those unaware, this AI model can generate only a few seconds of video at a time, and you can splice the end-frame of each video to the start of the new one to give the appearance that it is one long video, which is what Miro is doing. It's pretty obvious when you pay attention to the constant background changes.

You can also train this AI model to generate certain characters, called Loras (e.g.

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is trained on Witcher 4 trailer data), so you can prompt the AI to generate a character with that likeness, but Miro's characters does not look pretrained on anything. It literally looks like he downloaded default WAN 2.1 AI model, typed something, spliced some things together, and called it a day. How this guy still has patreons is beyond me

The thing is, once all the ethical concerns surrounding AI usage (if they ever do) get ironed out, and the people who deserve to get paid for their art being stolen to train the models get paid, I've got zero problems with a hypothetical future in which these tools advance to the point where they're invisible, and merely exist to aid in the actual creative process. I don't want AI doing the coloring, and animating, and voice-over, but I'm fine with it assisting the people who are actually doing those things.

We just aren't there yet.

There are plenty of other artists out there besides Miro who have done brief little experiments using AI to crank out comics or stills or whatever to supplement their actual work, and just like Miro's AI garbage, it looked awful. It was completely devoid of charm, and I thank fuck that these creators listened to the feedback of their fans, which is that a slower workflow (with breaks as needed to avoid burnout) is preferable to wasting time on AI art that sucks.

 

[tph1934]

Meh I can sort of understand why porn artists turn to AI.

Just look at rule 34 xxx posts for example. A lot of those AI posts have a shit ton more favorites and activity than actual art posts. Someone mentioned Ciri earlier, take a look at this

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. That AI "artist" is earning more on Patreon than 3D artists that have been making animations for years, and with a fraction of the effort, and to top it all of he only just started LAST MONTH.

Why scrape and claw your way through Blender tutorials to obtain a measly Twitter/Patreon following when people are horny enough that they will willingly sub to AI artists if it means they get to bust a nut? Why go through all the trouble of learning how to animate at all?

 

[StickyJammedPotato]

Meh I can sort of understand why porn artists turn to AI.

Just look at rule 34 xxx posts for example. A lot of those AI posts have a shit ton more favorites and activity than actual art posts. Someone mentioned Ciri earlier, take a look at this

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. That AI "artist" is earning more on Patreon than 3D artists that have been making animations for years, and with a fraction of the effort, and to top it all of he only just started LAST MONTH.

Why scrape and claw your way through Blender tutorials to obtain a measly Twitter/Patreon following when people are horny enough that they will willingly sub to AI artists if it means they get to bust a nut? Why go through all the trouble of learning how to animate at all?

Exactly. Disney just spent the last 20 years proving all you need to do is create shiny slop and the average retard will suck it down like a $2 burger. I don't blame Miro for jumping to AI, the vast majority of his audience are brain dead boomers at this point. It's just a shame because Miro had some of the best characters people came to like and we'll either never see them again, or watch them get butchered in some AI dumpster fire.

 

[Omniel]

A little off-topic but still somewhat relevant to this thread, here is a game: Magic World of Bimbo, which is somewhat similar to Miro's AI-generated images and animations that miro is posting. I haven't played this game, but I thought people might be interested in this since they are waiting for his animations. And also to tell you all that what Miro is doing isn't that groundbreaking as Miro makes it out to be, and others are already making similar things. This trend will only continue to grow.

Edit: One good thing in this is that there is no "branding" on the character's body in this game's images or videos from what I can see, so they look somewhat good at least unlike Miro's videos and images.

 

[Brises]

Someone knows how he does AI, and how shizzle do that, i just want to know how to create too, i just Cant wait they do the work.

May we can create the best vidéos for each of us , and i want to try it

 

[Chumbucket4sale]

Just wanted to say, as a great fan of the artists old work this new ai slop is just.......horrible, it all looks the same, no distinction and its not even hot.
Is it easier and faster to make?
Yeah, probably. Is it art? Nah.

Im sorry to say this but as a fan of his actual art this switch to ai is the biggest turn off, I have never seen a bigger fall from grace.

Its downright depressing.

 

[LWS]

Maybe there will be a movement like at the Blackadder Fan thread - taking the (old) pictures and feed them to AI and create small animations...

 

[Chumbucket4sale]

Maybe there will be a movement like at the Blackadder Fan thread - taking the (old) pictures and feed them to AI and create small animations...

I really hope not, the artist is already reduced his work to AI slop even without others making lower quality AI slop of his actually good work.

BA is a different situation, Miro used to make some of the best futa animations ever, now its just soulless same looking slop.

 

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[LWS]

I really hope not, the artist is already reduced his work to AI slop even without others making lower quality AI slop of his actually good work.

BA is a different situation, Miro used to make some of the best futa animations ever, now its just soulless same looking slop.

I'm on your side - handmade animation from a talented artist is always better, but i have to confess that i believe that even an AI-created animation based on the former Miro models is better to look at than the stuff created completly by AI.
And to be honest, the former is what i expected when Miro introduced AI in his work.
But now he produces stuff that you can get everywhere, maybe with less quality, but it looks all the same. He lost his distinctive style.

 

[Chumbucket4sale]

I'm on your side - handmade animation from a talented artist is always better, but i have to confess that i believe that even an AI-created animation based on the former Miro models is better to look at than the stuff created completly by AI.
And to be honest, the former is what i expected when Miro introduced AI in his work.
But now he produces stuff that you can get everywere, maybe with less quality, but it looks all the same. He lost his distinctive style.

Indeed, he completely lost his style and the distinct look of his characters.

This is such a sad loss, especially since its just ai generated stuff now, and you can easly tell its ai.
There is no art in this.

 

[parko666]

Indeed, he completely lost his style and the distinct look of his characters.

This is such a sad loss, especially since its just ai generated stuff now, and you can easly tell its ai.
There is no art in this.

Couldn't agree more. It's such a sad fall from what his work used to be.

When he first started using AI I wasn't happy but at least it still looked like his stuff, like his characters and models.

But now it's the same as every other AI 'artist' who tries to make it look realistic. Why should I care about his stuff then when I can find they same shit on any other porn site?

There's a WIP from Blood Crown that is simply Cerene licking her lips and to me it will always be better than anything he or anyone else makes with AI.

 

[Chumbucket4sale]

Couldn't agree more. It's such a sad fall from what his work used to be.

When he first started using AI I wasn't happy but at least it still looked like his stuff, like his characters and models.

But now it's the same as every other AI 'artist' who tries to make it look realistic. Why should I care about his stuff then when I can find they same shit on any other porn site?

There's a WIP from Blood Crown that is simply Cerene licking her lips and to me it will always be better than anything he or anyone else makes with AI.

Yeah......Cerene Blood Crown, I guess we never getting anything from the hot vampire chicks anymore.

I cant fathom this decision, there is no way ai slop makes him more money.

 

[BlindWisdom141]

Yeah......Cerene Blood Crown, I guess we never getting anything from the hot vampire chicks anymore.

I cant fathom this decision, there is no way ai slop makes him more money.

This decision was very obviously financially/work driven. Those that have followed miro for many years very well know they release content at let’s say a gradual pace. My opinion is Miro thought they could pump out the same amount of “content” while putting in vastly less time and effort. Still has over 1000 poor saps subbed to the Patreon.
I obviously miss Miros old animations especially with Cerene but hopes and dreams won’t change anything. Only thing that might enact change is voting with your wallet bet we all damn well know that ain’t gonna happen especially after people on Miros patreon have gotten used to the new status quo.

 

[priestofdisorder]

This decision was very obviously financially/work driven. Those that have followed miro for many years very well know they release content at let’s say a gradual pace. My opinion is Miro thought they could pump out the same amount of “content” while putting in vastly less time and effort. Still has over 1000 poor saps subbed to the Patreon.
I obviously miss Miros old animations especially with Cerene but hopes and dreams won’t change anything. Only thing that might enact change is voting with your wallet bet we all damn well know that ain’t gonna happen especially after people on Miros patreon have gotten used to the new status quo.

hes always money driven and its close to be a scam with the effort he puts in his work, G4E was amazing but after that its like he lives off his fame

 

[bobthebuilder223]

G4E was amazing but after that its like he lives off his fame

Pretty much, still his best work to date if you ask me. Doesn't quite hold up in terms of graphical fidelity but nothing compared to it back when it was first released. It was leagues ahead of everyone else. And to this day I still don't understand why noone has picked up where he left off. All I see are either video game characters banging each other, which is below even me in terms of degeneracy, or characters I can only consider grotesque like Nyl's or Rigid's. But just two hyperattractive women banging the living christ out of each other, apparently that's too much to ask.

 

[DicksInSpace]

So what happened to the "movie"?

 

[TokioRiot]

So what happened to the "movie"?

Last I saw, part 1 was supposed to come out end of last month but hasn't released yet. I think its going to be like 5-6 min.

 

[GrobusDobus]

Pretty much, still his best work to date if you ask me. Doesn't quite hold up in terms of graphical fidelity but nothing compared to it back when it was first released. It was leagues ahead of everyone else. And to this day I still don't understand why noone has picked up where he left off. All I see are either video game characters banging each other, which is below even me in terms of degeneracy, or characters I can only consider grotesque like Nyl's or Rigid's. But just two hyperattractive women banging the living christ out of each other, apparently that's too much to ask.

G4E was peak, as was the DLC, but Bloodlust: Royal Descent was also pretty fucking good. The image sets (Seed of Rebirth in particular) ranged from amazing to fine. And then... dogshit-fucking AI slop.

And I agree with it being a bummer that we only really got one creator really pushing the boundary of what could be expected from 3D artists making original animated porn. Miro's workflow was slow, but all his shit was original characters, in original settings.

Nyl, Rigid, Amazonium, etc. All do great work, but whenever they make OCs (even if it's set in an established universe), my ears definitely perk up more than usual.

 

[bobthebuilder223]

G4E was peak, as was the DLC, but Bloodlust: Royal Descent was also pretty fucking good. The image sets (Seed of Rebirth in particular) ranged from amazing to fine. And then... dogshit-fucking AI slop.

And I agree with it being a bummer that we only really got one creator really pushing the boundary of what could be expected from 3D artists making original animated porn. Miro's workflow was slow, but all his shit was original characters, in original settings.

Nyl, Rigid, Amazonium, etc. All do great work, but whenever they make OCs (even if it's set in an established universe), my ears definitely perk up more than usual.

What I would really like to know is how much of what he told everyone he was working on before the AI stuff was actually true, how much of it actually existed. There was obviously SOME sort of work being done towards blood crown, he had some models for a new Sayako and Tara, but other than trailers and individual images, we never got to see anything substantial. I really wonder if he ever had any plans in these directions or if it was really just a big joke.