BeastMaster59

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Quote from the Dev of Misfits:
"Due to the problem of chronic piracy by a few unscrupulous individuals, I have shelved all plans for future erotic novels and will be doing something else when this one is finished.

Of course, I won't leave fans of this story hanging , and I will finish it."


So I Guess the Dev is going to throw the Towel because of Piracy Issues, which is very Sad but understandable.
 
Sep 10, 2022
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Understanding that in a way piracy is a "problem" for the developer.
But I really think that it is thanks to the forum and piracy that his game starts from the beginning to have more and more visits and in turn gaining more support.
The person who really wants to support the developer with money will do so. You're not paying to get early access, rather to give the developer a show of support that you're doing it right.

I'm sorry but I don't understand crying so much when it also has great support from both subscribers and piracy!
 

ViperGts151

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It says "file does not exist"
The dev lurks on this forum and has killed the link after noticing I shared it
I'm trying to setup backup mirrors but my network is very slow so it will take time there isn't any point of keep posting the links that the dev posts as he/she will just keep killing them
 

Kulman

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Sep 28, 2017
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Understanding that in a way piracy is a "problem" for the developer.
But I really think that it is thanks to the forum and piracy that his game starts from the beginning to have more and more visits and in turn gaining more support.
The person who really wants to support the developer with money will do so. You're not paying to get early access, rather to give the developer a show of support that you're doing it right.

I'm sorry but I don't understand crying so much when it also has great support from both subscribers and piracy!
Whole western porn game market works on this principle. Devs who cry about it are either dumb or looking for a way out.
 

slowburngames

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Understanding that in a way piracy is a "problem" for the developer.
But I really think that it is thanks to the forum and piracy that his game starts from the beginning to have more and more visits and in turn gaining more support.
The person who really wants to support the developer with money will do so. You're not paying to get early access, rather to give the developer a show of support that you're doing it right.

I'm sorry but I don't understand crying so much when it also has great support from both subscribers and piracy!
It's simple really. I release a FREE PUBLIC version at the end of every the month. There is no need to steal the early release. Everything you say this forum contributes can be done with the free public release. Early access is one the few perks I can offer a Patron. Taking that away just hurts me. I know you want to justify the unscrupulous behaviour of some people on this forum, but be honest- it just hurts devs. If you really want to support us, then stick to the public release and stop encouraging wannabes.
 

Vukalo

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It's simple really. I release a FREE PUBLIC version at the end of every the month. There is no need to steal the early release. Everything you say this forum contributes can be done with the free public release. Early access is one the few perks I can offer a Patron. Taking that away just hurts me. I know you want to justify the unscrupulous behaviour of some people on this forum, but be honest- it just hurts devs. If you really want to support us, then stick to the public release and stop encouraging wannabes.
You are full of bs man.
 

HUNUTAN

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It's simple really. I release a FREE PUBLIC version at the end of every the month. There is no need to steal the early release. Everything you say this forum contributes can be done with the free public release. Early access is one the few perks I can offer a Patron. Taking that away just hurts me. I know you want to justify the unscrupulous behaviour of some people on this forum, but be honest- it just hurts devs. If you really want to support us, then stick to the public release and stop encouraging wannabes.
Well, a month is a very long time. Perhaps this is the problem? It's just that I recently had a good example of another author releasing a game to the public a week after the first release received patrons. And he wrote about his plans in advance. And until that time, no one played his game on this site, it appeared just at the time indicated by him, not earlier.
 

Kulman

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It's simple really. I release a FREE PUBLIC version at the end of every the month. There is no need to steal the early release. Everything you say this forum contributes can be done with the free public release. Early access is one the few perks I can offer a Patron. Taking that away just hurts me. I know you want to justify the unscrupulous behaviour of some people on this forum, but be honest- it just hurts devs. If you really want to support us, then stick to the public release and stop encouraging wannabes.
I would love to see you promote your game without any of these sites. Who would care about public release, if they did not know the game exists in the first place?

Would you pay for all the marketing, pay per click ads for random sites etc?

All the games I supported I supported because I wanted to see the game thrive. Most patrons do it like that. If that wasnt the case, the number of your patrons would be 0, because it gets leaked anyway.

EDIT: Also, you are not doing yourself any favors shitting on pirates. Chances are most of your patrons visit these sites and pirate most games they play. You only antagonize the patrons you have and make them more likely to leak/leave. You are just playing yourself.
 

RCDL

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Don't argue with him (it's a waste of time ), in his first game here, sharing was never an issue, but now he has the gross numbers he wanted and feels he doesn't need F95ZONE anymore. It's something with the person, it's life.
If one day his numbers drop, it will be blamed here and if they grew, it's all thanks to him alone. Marketing has nothing to do with it, 1,300,000 people who accessed the game here are ghosts, hallucinations.
 
Sep 10, 2022
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It's simple really. I release a FREE PUBLIC version at the end of every the month. There is no need to steal the early release. Everything you say this forum contributes can be done with the free public release. Early access is one the few perks I can offer a Patron. Taking that away just hurts me. I know you want to justify the unscrupulous behaviour of some people on this forum, but be honest- it just hurts devs. If you really want to support us, then stick to the public release and stop encouraging wannabes.
Dev I understand you.

But first of all, I really think that this forum is the main showcase to promote a new game as well as to maintain it over time. Without this forum and its users I don't think any game has that many players or is it that you think that players look for games one by one on "Patreon". Actually, as the other user says, this forum saves you a lot in publicity or at least that's what I think.

On the other hand, as other people have said a free release is great, but maybe waiting a whole month for it is too long. I think a week would be much more profitable and people wouldn't be as eager for the leak. Likewise, I repeat again, I don't think the people who pay for the subscription do so to have early access, they do so to show support for the project, a way of saying that you are doing things right and to be able to make decisions if the developer needs it.

You are creating a very good game/project and I think you have a lot of support from people who can afford to pay money. But the rest is what I think.
 

slowburngames

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Well, a month is a very long time. Perhaps this is the problem? It's just that I recently had a good example of another author releasing a game to the public a week after the first release received patrons. And he wrote about his plans in advance. And until that time, no one played his game on this site, it appeared just at the time indicated by him, not earlier.
Well, it's not a month.. think about it. The gap between each FREE PUBLIC release is one month, exactly the same as the gap between each stolen early releases. It's simple maths. One way supports the dev, the other hurts him. Honestly, you are looking for ways to justify what is really unjustifiable.
 

Pr0GamerJohnny

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The theme with orcs from the point of view of the plot reminds a banal writer's "stamp", like the theme with "dreaming" in movies, and in porn games too (when the content is needed, but it is too early for it, and supposedly the hero dreams of a hot event) - imho, the whole point is that slow burnout occurs, and the longer and better the lead to such an action, the more valuable and desirable it is, when some orc does anything out of the blue, it looks inappropriate, weird, off-topic, and at the same time in the future when Clara will do so based on slow burnout, it won't look as epic as it could be, because we've already seen it. It looks a lot like a porn game where from the beginning the hero fucks everything without any plot at all.
What a great essay, you described why I HATE dream sequences in porn games, because it cheapens the "bass drop" of when they'll actually do get action. So much of male sexual desire seems to come from this switch flip of "I have never seen a sexual experience with that girl ---> WOW she's doing it!".



Also lol@ dev getting undies in a bundle, this isn't 1995 where a person/team spends thousands of hours slaving over making some esoteric wargame/fantasy game with no market exposure, just hoping that some customers buy a few copies down at their local computer games store so they can recoup costs. The entire market ecosystem has changed.

Look I get it, you spent time and money and creativity making a product, and no matter what you do, people are stealing that product. Reality is you've two choices - you can either go hard in the other direction; full DRM/always online/cryptog protections, or embrace it and operate within that theatre, accepting a large %of people playing your game and not paying for it as a cost of doing business in this current day market.
 

slowburngames

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I would love to see you promote your game without any of these sites. Who would care about public release, if they did not know the game exists in the first place?

Would you pay for all the marketing, pay per click ads for random sites etc?

All the games I supported I supported because I wanted to see the game thrive. Most patrons do it like that. If that wasnt the case, the number of your patrons would be 0, because it gets leaked anyway.

EDIT: Also, you are not doing yourself any favors shitting on pirates. Chances are most of your patrons visit these sites and pirate most games they play. You only antagonize the patrons you have and make them more likely to leak/leave. You are just playing yourself.
Like I said, marketing can happen with the FREE PUBLIC release. You don't need to steal the early release. This site would thrive if it used the FREE PUBLIC release. It could then honestly claim to be supporting devs.
You might think that piracy doesn't affect Patrons- they would support anyway- but the statistics I've been keeping suggest otherwise. I lose at least 25% of my patronage to piracy. That's not insignificant to a small developer.
When I first started developing I posted my game on another 'pirate' site and the moderators respected my request not to post the early release- they seemed to want to work with me. Funnily enough, people DID get to know my work existed even when it wasn't on this site.
As for 'antagonizing' patrons, have you considered the effect of antagonizing devs?

I know you are trying to paint pirates as the 'good guys' but do you really believe what you are saying?
 
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