Oh my

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Do you think that would make a difference?
If I changed my release model so that it became public after a week, would people on this site stop leaking it?
Well, ViperGTts151 ?
Primarily, Patreon is for donations or rewards.
It's a numbers game (you will not catch all the fish in the sea: only some).
This is the place that has the numbers.
That's the core model.

Extra benefits are nice, but some are unreliable while others are more reliable.
Some benefits can be leaked.
Some benefits can not be leaked.
I'm pretty sure most Patrons understand this.
They can't blame you for other people leaking it.
It doesn't hurt for leakable benefits to still be there: after all it is still intended for them; and it is ultimately the most reliable access to content: devoid of codependance.

Your Patrons mostly enjoy knowing that they're supporting someone they think deserves it.
 

Alter541

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Do you think that would make a difference?
If I changed my release model so that it became public after a week, would people on this site stop leaking it?
Well, ViperGTts151 ?
Piracy is something that all game makers have to deal with it. I'd advise you to consult other developers about what strategies worked for them. I'm not a dev but one strategy that may work would be increasing the price for first day release. My assumption is that people who pay more to access it on Patreon are less likely to leak it early. You can also delay releases if a game gets leaked early and also state that that's the reason the next release is being delayed. These are just my suggestions. Do understand that they may backfire. I wish you good luck dev.
 

T-N

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anybody got a mega for 2? 1 and 3, but not 2. things that make ya go, "huh"
 

SonsOfLiberty

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Misfits [Part 3 v18.0] [Slow Burn Games]

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Oh my

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So I'm probably halfway through part 2 and don't understand what the Incest is in this game.

All it is, is Eric all over MC's Mom: no Options.
 
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Pedro69

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Saying piracy doesn't affect it at all would be a foolish take. Piracy in itself isn't a 1:1 ratio of loss sales because some people will pirate regardless. Quick leaks like what happaned with v18.0 today I am sure do affect it due to ease of access to people who might have been willing to pay, granted I am sure some will still pay regardless. My focus is on the 17% and 25% figures mentioned plus actual proof to back it up to give solid evidence. I was hoping to get more in-depth info or graphs and such and it is hard to actually determine correlation from just a handful of events, but I will take your word at least that there is a good chunk of people who may not rejoin or join. Also, I do agree with others about changing it to not be public until 7-10 days instead of several weeks. Most other games I see people don't bother leaking since the sentiment is, "The game is coming in just a few days anyway." Nearly a whole month afterwards makes people impatient for better or worse. And I even see more vitriol towards people who do leak when the public release is only like a week after the early release.
Lol so you were hoping for slowburn to give you a random person questioning that their business is hurting due to an early leak exact numbers of people and take the time to make graphs and stuff just to prove to you that they have a reason to be upset... priceless.
 
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Oh my

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Alright, well, that was not for me.
It was effectively a waste of time and data for me.
Piracy is justifiable with media (especially here) because you don't know what you're getting.
Also most content is incomplete as well as saleable upon completion.
 

DuckDairyDip

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Lol so you were hoping for slowburn to give you a random person questioning that their business is hurting due to an early leak exact numbers of people and take the time to make graphs and stuff just to prove to you that they have a reason to be upset... priceless.
I wasn't expecting Slow Burn to release literally all the background info and stuff or have to create anything. Just figured Patreon gave some sort of metric to view these numbers on a month to month basis considering their monetization systems and to at least have some correlation between number of Patrons and money earned per month to back up his statements is all. Plus I figure Slow Burn or any dev would have some of their own documentation since this is their business whether they are full-time or not. When it comes to this subject, Slow Burn has nothing to prove to me or anyone else here because this is their business. Of course most devs would be upset their game release leaked, Slow Burn or any dev is justified in being upset regardless. I was just curious about the actual data since as I stated, statistically, you can't really make a correlation based on just a few events, you need a wider range and to account for different variables. So I was curious how an average developer's pay was affected by early leaks depending on when it leaked.
 

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I feel like the author has forgotten that one of the paths is meant to be Clara becoming corrupt without you enjoying it.

EDIT: He's actually sort of contradicting himself. Some thoughts he doesn't like Clara being molested, and in others he's implying he does.
 
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HUNUTAN

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I work 70 hours per week and after fees and taxes, earn less than the minimum wage in my country. So yeah, I'm such a greedy evil person. And the guy who stole my work is an angel.
If you don't like the conditions in your country. Go to another. With your earnings, you are not tied to a place or a country. But, for example, in another country where the minimum wage is several times less, you can afford much more with the same level of comfort. Everything is relative.)
 

sevendustkorn1008

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The only thing I really find annoying about this whole situation is the soapbox pirates are standing on. I'm not against piracy because I'm on this site and have pirated a bunch of games here. With that being said, I know that what I'm actually doing is stealing the game from devs. So please, stop acting like we're providing a service to devs. Sometimes uploading a game on this site serves as a type of marketing, but let's all be honest. Most games here are pirated and eventually abandoned because most people don't ever support the games on this site.

So, just be honest. You're pirating for nothing but purely selfish reasons, and you don't care how the dev feels about it. Just admit it, and stop trying to justify it with nonsense reasons.
 

banuma

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she's my most unliked character. She's got a bad personality and isn't attractive at all (imo)
Hey hey there,
be a good little boy and don't shit on our favourite chubby girl here. : D

No problem if you don't like her but why all the violence?
jk

btw would be nice if the pirates and dev could figure out some sort of truce. if you are working on something I can understand that you want to be paid. I think for a lot of games some sort of one week early access kinda works. dunno don't have a good solution.
 
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