Same, I've yet to really find a game that does it in the way I'd really love, though this game in a sense so far comes quite close. It's that whole starting dominant then throughout being corrupted or undermined or slowly having the tables turned & it not being a sure thing, like it would be avoidable & able to continue on a dominant route so it gives more weight to the power exchange of becoming a former submissive's plaything, like I 100% want to become Elfina's plaything/bitch & to be honest I want it to sort of be done right under the noses of the rest of the kingdom of Hern while they are winning the war as opposed to it being some kind of sudden coup where Hern loses a war or similar. I'm probably asking too much for that to happen as it'd likely be difficult to write it in a convincing fashion & adds a whole lot of branching, but it doesn't hurt to dream.
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Yes, at the moment on the orc route there is almost only sub content (the only dominant one atm is if you win night fights with other Orcs and choose to humiliate them) and the next update will even deliver an ending for that route where
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Jokes aside, there's mostly dominant content and some loving vanilla yuri on the main route and mostly sub content on the Orc route, but it's a truly well-written wholesome yuri game so especially if you like soft femdom/lezdom you will probably enjoy at least some parts of it!
There is a 3rd route planned (where you accept to marry Alado and become Queen Consort of Esteria to ensure Hern's alliance with them) in which Elfina will turn the tables on MC, who might end up as her hopeless sub/bitch...
(I think this was definitely discussed on Patreon)I know it's not exactly what you were asking for, but it's still gonna be content where MC is dominated by Elfina!
Glad you like the game by the way - I absolutely loved it also because of the power dynamics, although at first I was mostly drawn to this game by the dominant route, as lezdom from the perspective of the domme is not often done in general, let alone in such a well-executed manner! Cheers!
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thank you for the detailed answer. (english is non my native language, sorry if I write incorrectly in some parts)Yes, at the moment on the orc route there is almost only sub content (the only dominant one atm is if you win night fights with other Orcs and choose to humiliate them) and the next update will even deliver an ending for that route where, but don't tell Noxurtica I told you this as they may fire me as a beta tester!You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
Jokes aside, there's mostly dominant content and some loving vanilla yuri on the main route and mostly sub content on the Orc route, but it's a truly well-written wholesome yuri game so especially if you like soft femdom/lezdom you will probably enjoy at least some parts of it!
There is a 3rd route planned (where you accept to marry Alado and become Queen Consort of Esteria to ensure Hern's alliance with them) in which Elfina will turn the tables on MC and might end up as her hopeless sub/bitch...
I know it's not exactly what you were asking for, but it's still gonna be content where MC is dominated by Elfina!
Thanks for the info, I love power exchanges, primarily I like sub routes but I enjoy the possibility of dominant routes & especially the possibility of being very powerful/dominant & having a fall from grace, it's seemingly rare to find that kind of content generally so it's a big plus whenever. I'm impressed with this game so will be keeping an eye on it especially for later routes.Yes, at the moment on the orc route there is almost only sub content (the only dominant one atm is if you win night fights with other Orcs and choose to humiliate them) and the next update will even deliver an ending for that route where, but don't tell Noxurtica I told you this as they may fire me as a beta tester!You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
Jokes aside, there's mostly dominant content and some loving vanilla yuri on the main route and mostly sub content on the Orc route, but it's a truly well-written wholesome yuri game so especially if you like soft femdom/lezdom you will probably enjoy at least some parts of it!
There is a 3rd route planned (where you accept to marry Alado and become Queen Consort of Esteria to ensure Hern's alliance with them) in which Elfina will turn the tables on MC, who might end up as her hopeless sub/bitch...
I know it's not exactly what you were asking for, but it's still gonna be content where MC is dominated by Elfina!
Also is that a VTMB username I see?
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It is indeed, and the mistress of mirrors smiles down on you from the confines of my avatar, fellow kindred!
I'm a sub myself (I can only enjoy dominant content if it's lezdom) and the humiliation and femdom-addicted part of my brain was always a bit enchanted by Ming Xiao, (the "baroness" of Chinatown/leader of the LA Kuei Jin in VtMB) with her beguiling feminine charm, stern and calm authoritative voice, air of superiority that always made it seem as if she regards you, and all kindred, as lesser beings beneath her in the natural order, as well as illustrious scheming and manipulation skills! Her ending is potentially the worst for MC in VtMB, but I always loved the dominance her character exudes (Malkavians even call her the "Mistress of mirrors" when you speak to her in-game!
) and how she manipulates both MC and other kindred like pawns to drive the Anarchs and the Camarilla to war amongst themselves and come out on top even though she is vastly outnumbered, hence my name and avatar. (Ming was basically my ideal domme - ruthless, smart and manipulative, but also feminine, composed and elegant at the same time - back before I even discovered porn games, so I thought it fitting to reference her when I made this account. It also allows me to discover fellow Masquerade fans on f95, so that's an added bonus! )The orc route is in and of itself a "fall from grace" story if you think about it, and it will have endings where Puella just remains Orca's slave, but yes, there will be content of that sort on the Esterian route as well and you're probably going to like it more as it will heavily involve Elfina... But I gotta go for now, so have a great day!
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I knew it the moment I saw it! I've recently been thinking of a Nosferatu play through as it's one I've never tried. My very first was as a Malk, which a lot of people say probably shouldn't be for a first time, but I enjoyed it just fine, finished it a number of times now.It is indeed, and the mistress of mirrors smiles down on you from the confines of my avatar, fellow kindred!
I'm a sub myself (I can only enjoy dominant content if it's lezdom) and the humiliation and femdom-addicted part of my brain was always a bit enchanted by Ming Xiao, (the "baroness" of Chinatown/leader of the LA Kuei Jin in VtMB) with her beguiling feminine charm, stern and calm authoritative voice, air of superiority that always made it seem as if she regards you, and all kindred, as lesser beings beneath her in the natural order, as well as illustrious scheming and manipulation skills! Her ending is potentially the worst for MC in VtMB, but I always loved the dominance her character exudes (Malkavians even call her the "Mistress of mirrors" when you speak to her in-game!
I'm similar in that I only really enjoy dominant content if it's lezdom though as you'd expect I much prefer the submissive parts of games. Likewise I have a thing for humiliation & femdom big time, so I too was enchanted by Ming Xiao, she also had fantastic make-up, that eye-shadow!
Her ending is one of the worse for sure if you're bothered by the final fate of your character (which I usually am, would have been happy just being her subject not sunk!), but you're not wrong about her dominance or characteristics, such a good game with so many threads & nuances. The entire game is basically a big game of intrigue, it's no wonder someone like Ming Xiao was manipulating so much from behind the scenes. Fun to run into a Masquerade fan in such interesting places though! While I agree, it is indeed a fall from grace & it definitely has my interest in a slightly different way, in this case the Orc route is quite sudden which is the part I'm not quite so keen on, what would make me very keen however is the means to resist (at least somewhat, & so far I have seen elements to this effect, so I am hopeful!) & still become a permanent slave but with the possibility still of breaking free, or turning the tables, etc. Essentially I enjoy the battle as such between two dominant personalities until one breaks, on the Orc route it's sudden which is less interesting, but to still have that battle of sorts interests me greatly.
On the other hand, my above hope in regards to Elfina is about having the upper hand & again having that battle & being worn down, it's the journey that's fun, a game that sees you slowly fall under another's influence, slowly being grinded & broken down, or tempted, teased & seduced until you submit while you know it's possible to not fall, the fun is in making me the player feel weak enough to make that dumb choice, that temptation that makes me do something dumb that leads to the tables being turned, etc. this is why I'm also not that keen on games that implement blackmail as while it's a good tool for the manipulation & turning of someone it hasn't the weight of a clash of dominant personalities with one coming out on top, it's an easy way out so to speak, I am not aware of any blackmail in the game as such but I'm using it as an example of what I would hope doesn't happen. Seduction & temptation are so much sexier, simply put. All said however I'll do my best to appreciate it however it ends up, I try to enjoy things for what they are even if they aren't entirely what I hoped, as I say it doesn't hurt to dream & I dream a lot!
Hope you don't mind the overly long reply, hope you have a great day too!
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I cerainly don't - sorry for not being able to get back to you earlier by the way, but yeah, I made posts even twice as long as yours many times on this website, so it'd be pure hypocrisy if the length upset me...
We're the same in that regard!I knew it the moment I saw it! I've recently been thinking of a Nosferatu play through as it's one I've never tried. My very first was as a Malk, which a lot of people say probably shouldn't be for a first time, but I enjoyed it just fine, finished it a number of times now.
I'm similar in that I only really enjoy dominant content if it's lezdom though as you'd expect I much prefer the submissive parts of games. Likewise I have a thing for humiliation & femdom big time, so I too was enchanted by Ming Xiao, she also had fantastic make-up, that eye-shadow!
My first playthrough was a Malkavian female, and I was double-cursed with that having happened about 12-13 years ago and not even being a fluent English speaker yet! (oh, the fun days I had googling words I didn't know from the dialogue options to remain none the wiser because they were Malk-speak , not the language known to us mortals as "English"... - that's pure nostalgia right there!)I replayed the game 4 times since in its entirety, (I tried different roleplays with different clans/endings) as the plot was just way too intriguing not to revisit once I had a better grasp of English (and then once I had new roleplaying ideas/wanted to try out new mods etc), and I've even read a few dozen of the tabletob RPG books for "Vampire: The Masquerade", the splat of the "World of darkness" wider universe from whitewolf that inspired the video game, so you can PM me if you want to talk about either the game itself, the RPG universe or the proposed sequel!
Indeed, it's true that on the orc route Puella (I think that was her default name) gets mostly forced to submit from the start by external circumstances (eg the orcs winning the war and subsequently imprisoning her and taking away her magic), so there isn't much of a battle between her and Orca that leads to a journey into submission. If anything, Puella can just feign submission from the beginning and plan to escape/turn the tables on Orca, in which case you have a slow journey towards dominance, or she can accept to submit and be Orca's prized pawn, in which case there is a journey into submission that doesn't include much resistance. (you probably know you can defy Orca's orders at the beginning of the route, but you're not in a position to fight her and you mostly just get punished and earn less trust/lose less pride that way) Knowing this and what I've discussed with Noxurtica thus far though, I'm convinced that you'll like the Esterian route! (can't reaveal more for now)
I share a variation of this fetish/fantasy myself (the slow breaking down of a character I play by a dominant female), and although in my case MC does not necessarily have to be dominant at the start of the story (he/she can also be average/vanilla, which I think is more often done in femdom games than your preference), I agree it's not that commonly done. (and that your prefered spin on it, so to speak, is likely even rarer) However, besides me knowing that the Esterian route will feature some elements of what you like, I might be able to recommend you a couple of extra games you may want to try on this website if you PM me. (if we talk about it in public posts here moderators would remove them for off-topic violations) Alternatively, you can just check the Femdom Finder I have linked in my signature, as it's probably the most compregensive list (with a lot of details, featured fetishes, development status etc) of femdom and lezdom games on f95. Cheers and all the best to you!
I'll only reply to this part to stay on topic of the thread & put the off-topic stuff in a PM.Indeed, it's true that on the orc route Puella (I think that was her default name) gets mostly forced to submit from the start by external circumstances (eg the orcs winning the war and subsequently imprisoning her and taking away her magic), so there isn't much of a battle between her and Orca that leads to a journey into submission. If anything, Puella can just feign submission from the beginning and plan to escape/turn the tables on Orca, in which case you have a slow journey towards dominance, or she can accept to submit and be Orca's prized pawn, in which case there is a journey into submission that doesn't include much resistance. (you probably know you can defy Orca's orders at the beginning of the route, but you're not in a position to fight her and you mostly just get punished and earn less trust/lose less pride that way) Knowing this and what I've discussed with Noxurtica thus far though, I'm convinced that you'll like the Esterian route! (can't reaveal more for now)
I share a variation of this fetish/fantasy myself (the slow breaking down of a character I play by a dominant female), and although in my case MC does not necessarily have to be dominant at the start of the story (he/she can also be average/vanilla, which I think is more often done in femdom games than your preference), I agree it's not that commonly done. (and that your prefered spin on it, so to speak, is likely even rarer) However, besides me knowing that the Esterian route will feature some elements of what you like, I might be able to recommend you a couple of extra games you may want to try on this website if you PM me. (if we talk about it in public posts here moderators would remove them for off-topic violations) Alternatively, you can just check the Femdom Finder I have linked in my signature, as it's probably the most compregensive list (with a lot of details, featured fetishes, development status etc) of femdom and lezdom games on f95. Cheers and all the best to you!
Yea I said in my previous reply about knowing you can defy/resist Orca's orders during the route, I'm glad that is there as it adds a lot to the experience. It's totally ok not to reveal the Esterian route, in fact I encourage you not to spoil it for me, the possibility of it & your recommendation that I will like it is enough for me to look forward to it, so no worries, I'm good with waiting & enjoying it whenever the experience becomes available.
finally gave this a go and really enjoyed it, but near the end, I think I get a bug? 10 days left and then it fades to black and skips to me "losing"?
If the 3rd route with elfy is correct I may need to support him on patreon, I've been looking for something like this for ages, ever since enslavement war gar me a taste of what I always wanted.
If the 3rd route with elfy is correct I may need to support him on patreon, I've been looking for something like this for ages, ever since enslavement war gar me a taste of what I always wanted.
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For the current public update, getting magic might not be available.
Are you playing the default route? Can you explain in more details what happens before the bug occurs?
is it possible to lower eurthurs reputation to 0 as the lowest i can get is 10 rep unless im missing something. and do any of the priorvoting options change this opinion
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default route, erthur comes and talks to me, game says I can lower his rep now, but might be best not to. 10 steps remaining, then it flashes and cuts to me losing
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Have you managed to change the outcome by now? Bear in mind that by the end of the game, in order to be 100% sure that you will win,
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What were your faction values on the last day before it cuts to you losing if you don't mind me asking?
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To be honest, was a little disappointed with the options available in the final release. The only way to get Orca's dedicated ending is to lower your pride to 0 and get a somewhat rushed outcome. But when you try to support her and play "normally"
Me sad. But still loving the game, will definitely keep my eye on the future updates!
P.S. oh, and I've seen there were unused image of princess serving Orca in the game files too, which makes me even more mad xD
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P.S. oh, and I've seen there were unused image of princess serving Orca in the game files too, which makes me even more mad xD
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That's it? Ngl, was expecting a bit more. Guess I gotta wait and hope more for elfinate route (marriage one)
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On the main route for Elfina or on the Orc route for Puella? On the orc route just buy food for health and fine wine/orcish ale for sanity, whereas on the main one try to not sent Elfina to as many tasks that decrease her health/sanity as it's harder to get back, but if I remember correctly you can recover a little bit of her sanity every time you send her to study at the university, as well as a little bit of her health when you send her to a convent.
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