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pk2000

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For those that want to test/compare translation engines.

I guess Kumisnami used google normal translation.
bellow are attached Papago(naver), Kakao and google line-by-line.

Each has it's pros and cons.
My personal preference is papago > google line-by-line > kakao > google normal. (but it depends on the games. In others google line-by-line does a better job than papago.)
kakao's translation is like an hybrid 90% google's normal and 10% papago's translation.
 
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BobCarter

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How do I change the scaling up so that it isn't a tiny square on my screen, this game doesn't have a game.ini
 

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Where do you go after the first lady boss? The bar keeper says something about a prison.
 

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This line
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(didn't bother to read after that) is translated as
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and google translates this into
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which seems far more readable than most mtl. What is the problem, why people don't use gt? I know it has limitations as to how much you can translate in a row (per day? no sure) for free, and sometimes it acts funny around punctuation, but it's much more passable even without any manual edit! I tried that myself, it's not that difficult to get bearable automated translation and use some dictionary for specific words.

For offline translation, Fujitsu Atlas was fairly decent (even with "complimentary" dicts). I can assure you sometimes it's better than google, since google translation can be way off on slang. There was one other option also: LEC, personally I strongly suspect the best online Japanese to English translator (RIP yahoo honyaku) was using lec. I have to wonder every time why uneducated ignorant translators can't comprehend that such poor translations help nobody.

Nevermind that, it seems this is actually a google translation? If you put it as is, or replace line wraps (and offending punctuation) it's perfectly readable. BUT if you obey line wraps and translate it separately, you get gibberish translation. Just how some people can show this level of incompetence is beyond me.

I tried putting some untranslated lines as it is without linewraps and google translation is much better overall (sometimes you have to replace punctuation or some words).

Still, I'm not sure where some mistakes come from, cuz gt translates it properly and I can't get that shitty translation no matter what I do.
 
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Shizusan

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The MTL is strong with this one, moreso than the grind.
Thanks I think I'll wait for a better translation, aside from the translation I find the other problem the game has is, its too easy to get to sex scenes, there's no anticipation or reward and thus a build up to them makes it better, you can literally walk upto npc and execute them that's a turn off I just stopped playing mainly though the translation is just wow I couldn't understand anyone or what was going on.
 

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For people bothered by grinding, you can get a ridiculous weapon and armor from the recollection room (accessed from the blue portal inside the inn you start in) by talking to the NPC you can find past the smaller portal in the southeastern corner in it.

Are people interested in a guide for unlocking the events and CG? The game's relatively short and doesn't really seem to make an effort to hide its content, in my opinion.
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Chingonerio

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What is meaning of netorase?
How is it different from netorare.
NTR is umbrella definition for three different kinds Netorare, Netori, and Netorase (See how they all contain the letters NTR?).



This is very short (incomplete) description, if you want to learn more just google the words.



Netorare one is when your (love/sex) interests are stolen from you (MC) by bad guy(s),

Netori is when you (MC) steal (love/sex interests) from others (= most of the games here on this site),

Netorase is when your (love/sex) interests are used (fucked) by others, with your (MC) consensus and help.
tl;dr:
Netorare: Protagonist's significant other cheats; Protagonist is the cuckold.
Netori: Others cheat w/ protagonist; Others are cuckolds.
Netorase: Protagonist endorses their significant other's sexual relations with others, may participate or enable said cuckoldry directly. Not quite polyamorous territory, protagonist is the cuckold but almost certainly enthused about it.

Going to be honest, I'm not fully certain this game qualifies for NTR since I can barely parse the MTL translation. It appears that the son's the one that comes up with the idea of both his mother and himself using sex to help interrogate people they come across, but it's not really clear if they're meant to be in a relationship or if the mom's just really that desperate to get her mission done that she completely overlooks his possession of a powerful and apparently illegal magical aphrodisiac and also genuinely (after 2 lines of hesitation) adopts his suggestion to seduce others for info.

I guess it's safe to assume that they're in a relationship since the broken English doesn't seem to suggest the boy uses the aphrodisiac in any of the scenes involving both of them? But it's strange that outside of those, every other scene has one convincing the other to leave before they do anything. It's unclear if either of them witness the other having sex with anyone other than themselves- even the "game over" ones with monsters have the boy faint every single time.
 

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tl;dr:
Netorare: Protagonist's significant other cheats; Protagonist is the cuckold.
Netori: Others cheat w/ protagonist; Others are cuckolds.
Netorase: Protagonist endorses their significant other's sexual relations with others, may participate or enable said cuckoldry directly. Not quite polyamorous territory, protagonist is the cuckold but almost certainly enthused about it.

Going to be honest, I'm not fully certain this game qualifies for NTR since I can barely parse the MTL translation. It appears that the son's the one that comes up with the idea of both his mother and himself using sex to help interrogate people they come across, but it's not really clear if they're meant to be in a relationship or if the mom's just really that desperate to get her mission done that she completely overlooks his possession of a powerful and apparently illegal magical aphrodisiac and also genuinely (after 2 lines of hesitation) adopts his suggestion to seduce others for info.

I guess it's safe to assume that they're in a relationship since the broken English doesn't seem to suggest the boy uses the aphrodisiac in any of the scenes involving both of them? But it's strange that outside of those, every other scene has one convincing the other to leave before they do anything. It's unclear if either of them witness the other having sex with anyone other than themselves- even the "game over" ones with monsters have the boy faint every single time.
Hmm so you qoute my five lines, start with tl;dr: and make a post that is thrice as big as the one you "tldr"-ed...........
 

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Hmm so you qoute my five lines, start with tl;dr: and make a post that is thrice as big as the one you "tldr"-ed...........
It's almost like I don't actually want to help any user asking barely on-topic questions already answered earlier in the very same short thread on a forum built upon an engine with decent search features and instead would like to stay on-topic and discuss the game in question. Weird, huh?

Sorry that you took "too long; didn't read" personally instead of as the admonition of lazy 'readers' I meant it to be.

Anyway, if no one needs a better guide for this game than the crappy list I provided earlier, I'm out: someone more masochistic can handle the future people asking what "Netorcalifragilisticespialidocious" stands for, and what its impact on pornography was after the Bombing of Bukkakeshima in 1969.
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I cant help it if you can not get across what you "mean", this is the internet not a face to face conversation.

If you use TLDR and qoute someones post most people will take that "personal" as you like to call it.

I am not trying to pick a fight, just trying to explain.
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Oh no, I must've looked nuts every time I wrote a summary of my own long-winded posts and prefixed them with "tl;dr:", huh? "Why's this weirdo calling themselves out for their word walls?"

Anyway, thanks for staying on-topic! I can't wait to hear about how to access this new hidden "internet etiquette learned from image boards that no one should ever have learned anything other than 'people online have no sense of right and wrong'" content that's hidden somewhere in the game. I bet it's the only part of the game that's not machine translated, and also hides a link to a full pre-patched download of another of Autonoe's games, Emilia's Inn, in it.

But as I said before, unless someone needs an actual guide: No new posts from me in here.
 
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M'95

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It's almost like I don't actually want to help any user asking barely on-topic questions already answered earlier in the very same short thread on a forum built upon an engine with decent search features and instead would like to stay on-topic and discuss the game in question. Weird, huh?

Sorry that you took "too long; didn't read" personally instead of as the admonition of lazy 'readers' I meant it to be.

Anyway, if no one needs a better guide for this game than the crappy list I provided earlier, I'm out: someone more masochistic can handle the future people asking what "Netorcalifragilisticespialidocious" stands for, and what its impact on pornography was after the Bombing of Bukkakeshima in 1969.
I cant help it if you can not get across what you "mean", this is the internet not a face to face conversation.

If you use TLDR and qoute someones post most people will take that "personal" as you like to call it.

I am not trying to pick a fight, just trying to explain.
 
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For people bothered by grinding, you can get a ridiculous weapon and armor from the recollection room (accessed from the blue portal inside the inn you start in) by talking to the NPC you can find past the smaller portal in the southeastern corner in it.

Are people interested in a guide for unlocking the events and CG? The game's relatively short and doesn't really seem to make an effort to hide its content, in my opinion.
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Nice cheat, it won't matter anyways the rpg element of the game is plain and cheesy, like I said its too easy to get the erotic pictures up pretty much what you mean by "doesn't really seem to make an effort to hide its content" I also find that when a game tries to hide something and you find it after some story or kind of in game work, the reward is greater having done something in the game to warrant the reward. Key being (More Satisfied feeling of Acomplishment)

If people wondering a comparison Imagine playing valkyrie profile on the playstation 1 and starting the game with the 3 secret characters Freya, Lezard and Brahms when I got them in my party I went through normal mode then found I had to play hard mode that also rewarded me with extra levels and characters, and I followed a guide the end result was so much more satisfying first playthrough of any game should make you work a little at least for something.

Moms report is like a bit stupid really you literally can force any scene just by saying yes or no. no effort in game design for this one folks. Curse of Pleasure is way better and that's still unfinished.
 
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For people bothered by grinding, you can get a ridiculous weapon and armor from the recollection room (accessed from the blue portal inside the inn you start in) by talking to the NPC you can find past the smaller portal in the southeastern corner in it.

Are people interested in a guide for unlocking the events and CG? The game's relatively short and doesn't really seem to make an effort to hide its content, in my opinion.
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What do I do about these 2 empty chairs? Do they even do anything?
 
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