downloading the game rn, will play it when i get back from work. any mods that nearly everybody plays with that I should download as well?
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No. There are a lot of good mods (I like Mari the Butterfly myself) but none that are required.
Not really, no. The mods for the most part add extra content, scenes, or even characters. There's also cheat mods if you don't want to struggle. But the game itself has enough content that mods don't feel like a necessity unless you've already explored everything somehow and want more (I still haven't seen everything)
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I really like Battle Sound Effects and the Insertion Mod, but I don't think they're necessary to play the game.
Battle Sound Effects helps immersion, and the Insertion Mod, lets more monstergirls proactively seek intercourse.
press X to fucking doubt
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Genuienly confused by this, its like the 3rd time i've seen you defend vivian, i thought we were meat to hate her
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Why?Genuienly confused by this, its like the 3rd time i've seen you defend vivian, i thought we were meat to hate her
She tricks you and sends you to an Alraune that fucks you.
She tricks you and sends you to campers that fuck you.
She tricks another girl to try and stop you, which incidentally gives her a goal and something to focus on while she's facing an emotional and physical roadblock.
How can you hate that? Like... you don't even have to interact with her at all if you don't take her quests or work at the brothel.
Well, Nara is acceptable, in my eyes. The rest are, as outright stated, tricks. She lies through omission by not giving you all the info needed, FORCING you to do something you might otherwise not want to do, something that might have been a deal breaker that would have led you to not accepting the quest in the first place had you actually been given the info. Not to mention the whole "soul-sucking" thing with the succubus campers that's been discussed to death already.
You get to bust a nut, sure. Does that instantly make it all okay? No. No, it doesn't. Lying like that is still a scummy as fuck thing to do any way you slice it.
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In that setting where nothing really bad can happen to you, she's basically just like an aunt setting you up for crazy blind dates.
With the recall stone you're not in any danger.
And she's doing a solid for most of the girls if you think about it. Nicci can't move and she's powerful enough that I assume the enchantment doesn't lead many adventurers to her naturally before they outgrow the forest.
So yeah the little trickery is completely harmless. With the one exception of the campers and that's a special case she couldn't see coming.
Also, she never forces you to do anything you might not want to do. Nicci's the one who attacks you. The game won't let you play an asshole so you do not get the option of just letting the campers starve.
I'm with Aesthetic here. Vivian's fine. You guys are overexaggerating.
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The soul-sucking thing nearly did happen, though. It's only due to the timely intervention of the other two that you do survive, so no, nobody is exaggerating. And Nicci is powerful enough where her pollen isn't just an aphrodisiac, but borderline strong enough to lure most adventurers into her clutches. Vivian opting to set Nicci up with free food is fine. It's that she isn't up front about the conditions involved. If you wanted a friend to help you with something and they omitted details that would impact your decision ahead of time, you'd be rightfully pissed.
Also, addictions are a real thing in this world, as we've seen with the manticore. So, Nicci's pollen is potentially screwing up an adventurer who huffed it too long. I wouldn't call that harmless. I also feel Vivian should be aware from past adventurers and even the trio of campers that yeah, one has a bit of a restraint issue. That's information you figure out ASAP so you don't have an avoidable accident. That's basic common sense.
Your whole "she never forces you to do anything you wouldn't want to do" is such a stupid and detached perspective. Millions of Amazon workers don't have to work for that company. They also don't have to eat, have a roof over their head, etc. Our character is in fucking debt. The central plot of the entire game is a pretty damn good excuse to do the side jobs Vivian asks of you, conditions notwithstanding. Someone in a desperate enough situation is going to shovel shit with their hands for a few dollars. Vivian preys on desperation, and the entire system that put you in debt is designed to ensure you're desperate.
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Why are you putting these as good deeds? The 2nd literally outright almost kills you, and yes, it was fucking intentional, se knew jennifer and the other big boobed one are complete morons, and knew that cathrine wass a newbie succubuss, that was a disaster waiting to happen, she tricked you and sent you there knowing that, that's attempted murder, she has zero fucking sympathy from me
Oh boy, we're gonna have a vivian argument now
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Vivian gave me Nara, so that's a definite positive in my eyes, since she's one of my favorite girls in the game. Other than that, though...let's say I wouldn't mind giving her a few George Costanza-esque whacks with the Demon Layer. I'm already in debt, woman. You're making this shit more of a hassle for me. I think she deserves SOME kinda punishment, even if it's just comical punishment.
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I do not think Vivian was trying to kill us by sending us to the campers. I do however get the impression she's trying to stop us from advancing in general by trying to get us hooked on someone.
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personally i support women's wrongs. hope vivian does even more awful stuff to the player for her own amusement in future updates. it's hot.
i think y'all might be taking this a little too seriously for a funny sexy aunt character
i think y'all might be taking this a little too seriously for a funny sexy aunt character
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Nara should consider getting a better career choice, dancing is not helping her in adventuring
I know that the world of sunshine rainbows cotton candy and chocolate in thresh's mind would never actually write something with serious implications more than once (kotone), but that's how it narratively ends up looking, even at best she still impedes you without conssent, some people in the thread are letting their masochistic desires allow a woman walking over them like this
hardly that funny and hardly sexy either, vivian is one of my least favorite designs in the game
Nara's one of my favs as well...(fucking dies waiting for the promised Nara fluff content from way back)
Still, I explained earlier that Vivian was taking advantage of Nara's loss of her best friend to match her with the PC, Vivian admits to this. There's a million fucking ways the PC-Nara interaction could've gone wrong realistically, but we aren't given the choice to cook Nara in-game for her pathetic way of trying to fight mongirls, or just get mad at her and leave by using magic to break through the barrier she makes.
Moreover, having a woman recovering from depression dance on a mountaintop/cliff is....not something you want if you're concerned for her well-being. Especially when said woman is still somewhat depressed. Especially when said woman has fallen down multiple times and would've died if it weren't for harpies watching over her. PC at least knows about the harpies, Vivian has 0 clue and still lets her do so.
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Nara is depressed at worst but not suicidal, her falling is far closer to cluminess and osha violations than it is for her desire to end her life over a friend
Death is also impossible, in the world of pure happiness and joy made by the cotton candy pink clouds death doesn't exist, cause that's too serious of a topic to write about.
True dat, but realistically, my man.Nara is depressed at worst but not suicidal, her falling is far closer to cluminess and osha violations than it is for her desire to end her life over a friend
Death is also impossible, in the world of pure happiness and joy made by the cotton candy pink clouds death doesn't exist, cause that's too serious of a topic to write about.
I prefer this game being lighthearted tho, and not having any real bad endings outside of Perpetua and maybe one more in the future. But Kotone's past is a thing, and there's likely more dark themes ahead (something something capital mongirls are vicious).
If Vivian meets with Lillian in-game and we see them talk it'd be great, and would probably clear up some questions. Would be cool if they talk about Nara and PC, as both end up in the church after being defeated by the other.
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Cause you get to have sex with hot desperate ladies in yourWhy are you putting these as good deeds? The 2nd literally outright almost kills you, and yes, it was fucking intentional, se knew jennifer and the other big boobed one are complete morons, and knew that cathrine wass a newbie succubuss, that was a disaster waiting to happen, she tricked you and sent you there knowing that, that's attempted murder, she has zero fucking sympathy from me
Oh boy, we're gonna have a vivian argument now
area!Bro if you're going to twist yourself into thinking that's attempted murder that's on you.
In my eyes, she heard about some succubi camping out in the mountains, who "with her connections" she heard about running low on energy, and decides to send you to them, believing in the safety of the enchantment.
I don't know how you can blame her for the faults of others.
This isn't the insane thing you're making it out to be imo.
Cause being impeded is literally getting married to a hot monstergirl who's constantly horny for you and who you can make happy for the rest of your days.
Fighting through temptation to thwart the demon queen is literally the plot.
And the temptation comes through everywhere.
Elena would be happy if you stopped adventuring and just lived with her as her sole husband.
She also indirectly tasks you with resolving the earth dragon's situation, which is temptation to stay with her.
The enchantment is weird.
You don't actually meet people you're completely incompatible with, with how it works. You can't get to a destination by "knowing the directions" you can only get there by having the destination in mind, and heading "towards it." The challenges you face, and treasure you obtain along the way aren't set because of that.
Some other adventurer probably met a very special unique Alraune just for them in the forest, that you'll never interact with because that's for them. That being said, meeting the girls you do meet is kinda like a fate thing. Hell, the Mimic in the game appears just for you according to the golden Mimic's dialogue anyway.
This is with the sole exception of the bosses of the game of course. Everyone gets a shot at them to get the sigils.
So if you think about it, Vivian playing matchmaker with you and Nara is surprisingly more safe than it looks on the outset wouldn't you say? I'm not 100% on this but wouldn't you just... not meet if the enchantment deemed you incompatible or wtv? Though I FULLY ADMIT that's just conjecture.
Otherwise, yeah it's just storytelling, and I do agree there's a lot of ways that meeting could've gone wrong. Thankfully, our player character is not allowed to be a shithead.
This is the most likely plot point.
Vivian is in line with the Demon Queen's way of thinking, and for her she just wants people to meet their monster girl soulmates. BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.
And I say all this as not a big fan of her btw.
I love aggressive and dominant girls! I don't like temptation generally cause that's more of a maledom thing you know.
I like that in Kotone's backstory you learn about the more violent Demon Queens of the past, and now this new Demon Queen is trying to integrate humans with monsters through pleasure instead of violence. It's still kinda forceful, and the threat of the Demon Queen pushing her views without communication with other nations is pretty crazy.
Like... the enchantment becoming global magic instead of just located to the island is such a crazy ass thought. She's honestly scary to force that on everyone, and I wanna see her stopped, but "why" she's doing it makes sense to me so far.
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Agreed, good point about the enchantment. Nara may very well be the only human, out of a gazillion adventurers, who has good chemistry with the PC. We see this in the capital where the PC can only sense the presence of other adventurers but not see them.
Does Vivian know which adventurers can and cannot see each other? Her plan to have Nara stop PC would've fallen flat if Nara couldn't even see him due to the enchantment, and Vivian wouldn't know that beforehand, so either she's got good matchmaking instincts or is in cahoots with the Demon Queen.