RPGM Abandoned Monster Girl Encyclopedia RPG [v0.0.11] [Kenko_Cross]

[Sarojin]

oh boy, its the futa shitfest debate yet AGAIN...
that drama should have died already, Kenkou needs to learn that he is only putting more fuel on the fire by bringing up this shit again

As far as I can see, he feels a certain way towards something. Shouldn't be forced as a creator/developer to add something just because a loud minority wants it. Fan feedback is nice, but it gets to the point where you're shaping the creator's vision into your own as a person/people. That's not how it should be, you should make what you want to make as a creator, and if people don't like it, oh well, you can't appease/please everyone.

If someone isn't making the kind of stuff you want, there's plenty of other creators that will or you can just make it yourself.

It reminds me of how the Metroid fanbase got divided when Metroid prime came out. One side was the classic original style and wanted 2D games in the future, the other new side wanted prime's 3D 1st person style to be style going forward.

I was in the middle camp like a lot of other people, where I like both, and appreciate anything I can get since Metroid is/was a niche series. I seriously appreciate any kind of crump I can get with it, Nintendo thankfully decided to make a bit of a mix between both, but mostly kept to what made the series what it was, 2D.

 

[SylvieRose]

As far as I can see, he feels a certain way towards something. Shouldn't be forced as a creator/developer to add something just because a loud minority wants it. Fan feedback is nice, but it gets to the point where you're shaping the creator's vision into your own as a person/people. That's not how it should be, you should make what you want to make as a creator, and if people don't like it, oh well, you can't appease/please everyone.

If someone isn't making the kind of stuff you want, there's plenty of other creators that will or you can just make it yourself.

It reminds me of how the Metroid fanbase got divided when Metroid prime came out. One side was the classic original style and wanted 2D games in the future, the other new side wanted prime's 3D 1st person style to be style going forward.

I was in the middle camp like a lot of other people, where I like both, and appreciate anything I can get since Metroid is/was a niche series. I seriously appreciate any kind of crump I can get with it, Nintendo thankfully decided to make a bit of a mix between both, but mostly kept to what made the series what it was, 2D.

As a futa fan myself I believe that this is HIS game and therefore he can do whatever he wants, I just want him to stop giving haters any more attention
Its not just this game, he is becoming borderline paranoid regarding futa in gnerl lately

 

[Sarojin]

As a futa fan myself I believe that this is HIS game and therefore he can do whatever he wants, I just want him to stop giving haters any more attention
Its not just this game, he is becoming borderline paranoid regarding futa in gnerl lately

I'm glad your reasonable unlike some people, mainly the haters you're talking about. I think it's just the same thing a lot of creators go through, wanting to appease as much people as possible, but I think that's a recipe for disaster. By trying to appease to a wider and wider audience, you start to lose the original audience you had in the first place.

Too many companies are trying to do this nowadays, especially with this "modern audience" bullshit. Fandoms used to be about appreciating the series, everyone was welcome, but too many people now want to change things to fit what they like. This in the long run effectively kills a franchise/series, I've seen it happen way too many times.

 

[RagueltheUFO]

You are reading too much into it,not everyone is into "futanaris" and if the creator doesnt want to include them you have to abide by his decision.

This has nothing to do with futanari. The wording specifically says "girls can't be with girls" so the scenario I brought up is literally "two human girls are in a relationship. One becomes a monster girl and now suddenly they can't be together anymore." Dick girl or not, it's homophobia. Especially when it's two guys, one of them ends up becoming a girl so they can still keep their friendship and more but now human girls can lose everything if they become a monster girl if they were originally into women.

 

[RagueltheUFO]

And no, I won't bide to the decision of someone trying to control their work in the same vein that Ann Rice did to her fanfiction. All that does is cause resentment and if that's the main reason he's literally not wanting to update anything is because he rather pick a fight with the fanbase than work on his project, he can join the creator of Cursed Armor in the "Stop wasting my time" category.

 

[aaronlancaster]

It reminds me of how the Metroid fanbase got divided when Metroid prime came out. One side was the classic original style and wanted 2D games in the future, the other new side wanted prime's 3D 1st person style to be style going forward.

I played Metroid Prime until 3. Fakking amazing game. Also the 2D versions since NES. The 3D changed how you played it but the core of the game was still Metroid.

 

[tablefliper]

This has nothing to do with futanari. The wording specifically says "girls can't be with girls" so the scenario I brought up is literally "two human girls are in a relationship. One becomes a monster girl and now suddenly they can't be together anymore." Dick girl or not, it's homophobia. Especially when it's two guys, one of them ends up becoming a girl so they can still keep their friendship and more but now human girls can lose everything if they become a monster girl if they were originally into women.

Just because gay content isn't included doesn't make it homophobic in my opinion. It's just not a feature. To me that's like saying if any porn doesn't have gay content then it's author is homophobic. That's just silly, they're just not targeting that audience and in this case would mess with the premise of his work.

Kenkou has said time and time again that he wants a setting where monstergirls hunt men (this is also why monstergirls won't birth incubi/monster boys). If monstergirls were content with screwing each other then there'd be no reason for them to leave their communities and go hunting. Also concerning former human woman on human woman relationships post monsterization, as stated earlier Kenkou has said that human women could become incubi in a similar manner that a human man can become an alp, providing a way for the relationship to continue.

It sucks that you don't like this aspect of the setting and you don't have to accept it if you don't want to but it's clear with comments like:

"While I appreciate both popularity and money, what matters more to me is continuing to create the MGE I envision. If that changes, it wouldn't be what I want to make, and there would be no point in creating it."

" First of all, I don't want MGE to be a hugely popular restaurant that anyone can enter, nor do I wish to become an internet celebrity. For me, MGE is akin to a reasonably popular local restaurant where like-minded individuals who share my interests gather."

Kenkou is going to make what Kenkou wants to make. It's his work and he should be able to do what he wants to do with it, and no one should be able to tell him otherwise. This is coming from a guy who very much enjoys Futa (I like Futa more than vanilla, no man ass) and Yuri content.

 

[geheim12347]

Eh, I think it is fair to point out that there is a certain strange undercurrent in this setting (only monogamy, gay people basically don't exist) which could be discussed but I don't think that necessarily means the setting or the author is anti-polyamory or anti-gay people it just points to something maybe being there.
But even if that was the case it still shouldn't mean we can tell the author to create something else, it's their work.

I just think authors repeatedly talking about the same stuff over and over is incredibly unproductive though.

 

[tablefliper]

Eh, I think it is fair to point out that there is a certain strange undercurrent in this setting (only monogamy, gay people basically don't exist) which could be discussed......

I know I said that gay content wasn't feature above, but I wouldn't go as far to say that gay people basically don't exist the MGE universe; at least in regards to human to human relationships. I just meant that we won't be seeing gay content involving monstergirls. Here's some lines from Alp's profile.

"Alps are incubi that, deep within their heart, strongly desired to become a woman or be with a man" (KC has said women are able to turn into incubi in a similar way)

and probably relevant "Their body has completely changed into that of a woman, yet they self-identify as men."

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think even The Order has issues with gay relationships (at least I don't think it's explicitly stated anywhere). I also believe monsters aren't against gay relationships. They'd always encourage people who have feelings for another to get together and even assist them. It's just that for monsters, men (or incubi) are a necessity for sustenance, gaining power, and increasing/maintaining their population.

So I don't think for example that Kenkou would be against writing a story where a gay human couple are in love who then get monsterized and one either turns into an Alp (if men) or incubus (if women). (kind of already did though not about a couple,

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As for polygamy; if we're talking about the human side of things, possibly The Order doesn't like that because of their teachings against over indulgence of desire but even then I'd say it probably varies from place to place as the The Order doesn't control all human society. Especially with monster-friendly states due to monster influence (esp. multiple wives).

If we're talking on the monster side then polygamy is often encouraged. Would most monstergirls prefer to be the only wife? Sure but they generally aren't against polygamy and harems aren't uncommon. If you were refering to being "marked" by a monster, then that's about the same as wearing a wedding ring; it won't deter insistent/persistent individuals or if the man insists or is persistent (and the monstergirl also likes him).

If you mean a monstergirl having multiple husbands then yeah, only one husband for them (though it is explained that their bodies adapt to one man (the one they have the most love for; that love never fading) and also can't physically feel pleasure but instead feel disgust from other men).

 

[Konstantinus]

Hmm... a similar question was asked in the march Q&A. It's not exactly the same situation but it could give you an idea of what Kenkou may have in mind.

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My guess is that one would turn into an incubus. So yeah straightforward homosexuality is probably unlikely to be represented officially (other than playful acts between MGs).

Interesting because in another source it whas that lesbians instead become sisterly like as in for example the Lilyraune and instead go in sync of making together their future husband happy.

 

[tablefliper]

Interesting because in another source it whas that lesbians instead become sisterly like as in for example the Lilyraune and instead go in sync of making together their future husband happy.

Yeah I do remember him saying that they'd look to share a husband. Though that was back in 2015 I believe and the question I quoted was from earlier this year. So maybe he's thought it over and came up with an alternative, or maybe both are possibilities?
Maybe this will be formally addressed in the next MGE vol.

 

[hexkitty01]

Just because gay content isn't included doesn't make it homophobic in my opinion. It's just not a feature. To me that's like saying if any porn doesn't have gay content then it's author is homophobic. That's just silly, they're just not targeting that audience and in this case would mess with the premise of his work.

Kenkou has said time and time again that he wants a setting where monstergirls hunt men (this is also why monstergirls won't birth incubi/monster boys). If monstergirls were content with screwing each other then there'd be no reason for them to leave their communities and go hunting. Also concerning former human woman on human woman relationships post monsterization, as stated earlier Kenkou has said that human women could become incubi in a similar manner that a human man can become an alp, providing a way for the relationship to continue.

It sucks that you don't like this aspect of the setting and you don't have to accept it if you don't want to but it's clear with comments like:

"While I appreciate both popularity and money, what matters more to me is continuing to create the MGE I envision. If that changes, it wouldn't be what I want to make, and there would be no point in creating it."

" First of all, I don't want MGE to be a hugely popular restaurant that anyone can enter, nor do I wish to become an internet celebrity. For me, MGE is akin to a reasonably popular local restaurant where like-minded individuals who share my interests gather."

Kenkou is going to make what Kenkou wants to make. It's his work and he should be able to do what he wants to do with it, and no one should be able to tell him otherwise. This is coming from a guy who very much enjoys Futa (I like Futa more than vanilla, no man ass) and Yuri content.

How DARE you not put something gay in your post? Clearly you're homophobic... <and yes this is humorous sarcasm, before you get all offended by me>

 

[Karl Speidel]

This has nothing to do with futanari. The wording specifically says "girls can't be with girls" so the scenario I brought up is literally "two human girls are in a relationship. One becomes a monster girl and now suddenly they can't be together anymore." Dick girl or not, it's homophobia. Especially when it's two guys, one of them ends up becoming a girl so they can still keep their friendship and more but now human girls can lose everything if they become a monster girl if they were originally into women.

It literrary has to do with "futanaris" since the comment I replied to not yours was having a mental breakdown over the "exclusion" of his fanfic. The dev is not forced to pander to anyone,its his game and he can make anything he wants with it,its his vision and if he doesnt want "dick bearing women" LMAO then he shouldnt be attacked by triggered incels.

Here im not 100% sure,in the original monster girl encyclopedia (is the dev the same that did that or different one?) werent monsters supposed to attack women to convert them and POTENTIALLY take a liking to them? However it would be only momentary lust after not being wtih a male for a period of time not love,so it partially makes sense monster girls want males to love,it is confusing in how males supposedly could be turned into monster girls although its not well defined and explained. Even IF the women were lesbians that was when they were human,monsters dont have the concept of sexuallity atleast not like humans do.
Triggered incels try not to spew alot of meaningless words in the wrong way (Challange impossible) XD
Look not anything you dont like is homophobia and thats not it either,monster girls are supposed to hunt males for their seed which sustains them,they cant get that from women plus its japanese style game which is focused on males and females relationships. Plus not everything has to be homosexual,again respect the decision of the dev,if not then leave and stop playing his "homophobic" games. Since you stick around it means you are just pissed for the sake of it.

 

[Karl Speidel]

And no, I won't bide to the decision of someone trying to control their work in the same vein that Ann Rice did to her fanfiction. All that does is cause resentment and if that's the main reason he's literally not wanting to update anything is because he rather pick a fight with the fanbase than work on his project, he can join the creator of Cursed Armor in the "Stop wasting my time" category.

Too fucking bad,he is the dev and has full right to make anything he wants with his game,regardless if its right,wrong or anything inbetween its his right,disrespectful incels like you talk big game but you wouldnt do that to his face. Resentment is only from the man-children that wont be missed,grow up,fanbase is mostly in agreement with him because not everyone is pissed for the sake of it like you,"stop wasting my time" you are already doing that yourself so congrats you played yourself.

 

[MejjeM]

Sex with golem

 

[aaronlancaster]

Sex with golem

It's alright if it's like Ishuzoku Reviewers.

 

[Konstantinus]

It's alright if it's like Ishuzoku Reviewers.

I do not know how it is in IR but in MGE it could either by a walking hot female formed clay that gathers essence for their creator because not every mamono has a feeder/husband and so it happens that the guy she harvest is so lovely that she decides to have him her new darling master which has to be loved and served.
Or it could be a pygmalion effect where a golem whas created as an ideal woman by a lonely guy and so after comming to live she is overenjoyed serving her father/creator who loves her so much as much as she can.

 

[RagueltheUFO]

Too fucking bad,he is the dev and has full right to make anything he wants with his game,regardless if its right,wrong or anything inbetween its his right,disrespectful incels like you talk big game but you wouldnt do that to his face. Resentment is only from the man-children that wont be missed,grow up,fanbase is mostly in agreement with him because not everyone is pissed for the sake of it like you,"stop wasting my time" you are already doing that yourself so congrats you played yourself.

Damn, you started the fight weeks (MONTHS EVEN) after I said my piece, assumed my gender on here with incel and manbaby (unironically applying it to you) and then expect me to believe that you actually know better about this franchise. You actually are on the side of "Its okay to sue fans who don't do what I ask". So he can stay being a lazy ass who would prefer to attack his fanbase over something he can't control over finishing the damn thing years later. He might as well put his stuff on private if he's not open to others actually wanting to consume content in a different way. Maybe you should stop dick riding developers who don't deliver and actually grow a brain. Because nothing is more embarrassing than someone who results to petty sealioning insults.

Hope you can tell us when his next update is after he's done attacking fans like Ann Rice. Its just radio silence now.

 

[Chuck Tingle]

The wait for this game really is having a tole on the mental state of this community.

 

[lululiu111]

Hi guy! This is first time i play this game and I have finished all 5 questions and have 2 mons girls so is everything done now? and the game just short like that? i'll gratefull if you have any advises for me. Thank you!