RPGM Abandoned Monster Girl Encyclopedia RPG [v0.0.11] [Kenko_Cross]

[NinjaNamedBob]

You haven't lived until you've fully succumbed to Vili's ta-ta attacks... and she's a real sweetheart afterwards.

I like that she's clearly as invested in her roleplaying as Tabitha tends to be. She's not even serious about leveling, either. She just wants to have fun and tease adventurers. I dig it.

 

[Comiies]

You can get those scenes by re-fighting the monsters in the gallery, though? You lose nothing for engaging with the content or not doing so. I also don't get your point. You believe it takes less effort to write a full sex scene and commission additional cg's for said scenes, than it is to repeat cg's and dialogue for a scene ad infinitum until player decides to win?



VN's are a really terrible example for you to lean on. They're largely considered the laziest form of "games" because the amount of effort one requires to understand the engine (ironically, some devs like ToroToro have added unique functions to their VNs) and put text and some images into said engine isn't that substantial. Most people can do it. The player also isn't being required to engage with the "game" in any mechanical way. Most people who play video games are more interested in getting to content through adversity. VN's just let you press skip until you get the content you want.

A good game should be entertaining and engaging, which should require effort. People don't derive satisfaction from doing nothing all day.



Monster Girl Dreams has plenty of illustrations. I mean, look at my signature, dude. What do you call that? And in terms of it being a snoozer, to each their own. I think you're wrong, but that's not really the point. You're just blatantly lying.

MGQ's cg's are fine until part 3. Not masterpieces, but they're enough.




How is it not relevant? You were literally pointing out how most other games employ an endless sex fade, which is just inherently wrong. Again. But also, I pointed out some examples of how scenes generally end, the most mentioned being MGQ's usual variety. In terms of KC's world not having bad endings, you're again just wrong. There are is literally a cult hell-bent on turning all the males into loilicons via sex, regardless of their victim's preferences. That's not exactly some cheerful stuff, bud.



Ah, yes, that one time he forced a fanfiction author to remove their story from fanfiction.net because he was upset over someone writing monster girls being harmed in that author's story. I'm sure he has no limitations within text. Jesus, dude. Stop sucking his dick so hard.



Yes,

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Not some common occurence that happens to everyone. Did you even bother to do the most basic research before replying? Methinks not.



I'm hardly upset, but nice try. Maybe if you spent less time talking out your butt, you'd manage to learn something for once. Also, if you're going to say things that are just objectively incorrect, calling you stupid and walking away does nothing to address the reasons why you're wrong. If nothing else, taking the time to detail why you are wrong helps inform people on two things: 1) you're an idiot who doesn't know what they're talking about, and 2) there is other media out there in a similar niche to MGE that might appeal to them.



I don't see anyone coping. I fundamentally dislike MGE as a property and I think the author is an entitled crybaby who can't handle criticism or other people creating content around his work. Torotoro Resistance didn't pick a fight with 4chan over the memes and crap. You don't see Scott Cawthon running around filing C/D notices on itch.io and here over the surplus of parody games. He also

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of his work (I posted the original 1d4chan post detailing everything, but it's dead now so I'm just using the ulmf post as a reference point instead. Unsaid can corroborate it) and blamed his western audience for not understanding the Japanese salaryman mindset. He's a whiny child who can't handle any form of deviation or criticism around his work.



In other words, you can't handle being wrong. Gotcha.

Man i just want my monster girls smh.Its too bad the guy is developing the game at a snails because of his obsession with perfection(Cant he just publish the game and then slowly work for it over the years like a normal dev?) and milking his patreon.The hope still remains though bwos...we got this

 

[kingslayers1]

You can get those scenes by re-fighting the monsters in the gallery, though? You lose nothing for engaging with the content or not doing so. I also don't get your point. You believe it takes less effort to write a full sex scene and commission additional cg's for said scenes, than it is to repeat cg's and dialogue for a scene ad infinitum until player decides to win?



VN's are a really terrible example for you to lean on. They're largely considered the laziest form of "games" because the amount of effort one requires to understand the engine (ironically, some devs like ToroToro have added unique functions to their VNs) and put text and some images into said engine isn't that substantial. Most people can do it. The player also isn't being required to engage with the "game" in any mechanical way. Most people who play video games are more interested in getting to content through adversity. VN's just let you press skip until you get the content you want.

A good game should be entertaining and engaging, which should require effort. People don't derive satisfaction from doing nothing all day.



Monster Girl Dreams has plenty of illustrations. I mean, look at my signature, dude. What do you call that? And in terms of it being a snoozer, to each their own. I think you're wrong, but that's not really the point. You're just blatantly lying.

MGQ's cg's are fine until part 3. Not masterpieces, but they're enough.




How is it not relevant? You were literally pointing out how most other games employ an endless sex fade, which is just inherently wrong. Again. But also, I pointed out some examples of how scenes generally end, the most mentioned being MGQ's usual variety. In terms of KC's world not having bad endings, you're again just wrong. There are is literally a cult hell-bent on turning all the males into loilicons via sex, regardless of their victim's preferences. That's not exactly some cheerful stuff, bud.



Ah, yes, that one time he forced a fanfiction author to remove their story from fanfiction.net because he was upset over someone writing monster girls being harmed in that author's story. I'm sure he has no limitations within text. Jesus, dude. Stop sucking his dick so hard.



Yes,

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Not some common occurence that happens to everyone. Did you even bother to do the most basic research before replying? Methinks not.



I'm hardly upset, but nice try. Maybe if you spent less time talking out your butt, you'd manage to learn something for once. Also, if you're going to say things that are just objectively incorrect, calling you stupid and walking away does nothing to address the reasons why you're wrong. If nothing else, taking the time to detail why you are wrong helps inform people on two things: 1) you're an idiot who doesn't know what they're talking about, and 2) there is other media out there in a similar niche to MGE that might appeal to them.



I don't see anyone coping. I fundamentally dislike MGE as a property and I think the author is an entitled crybaby who can't handle criticism or other people creating content around his work. Torotoro Resistance didn't pick a fight with 4chan over the memes and crap. You don't see Scott Cawthon running around filing C/D notices on itch.io and here over the surplus of parody games. He also

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of his work (I posted the original 1d4chan post detailing everything, but it's dead now so I'm just using the ulmf post as a reference point instead. Unsaid can corroborate it) and blamed his western audience for not understanding the Japanese salaryman mindset. He's a whiny child who can't handle any form of deviation or criticism around his work.



In other words, you can't handle being wrong. Gotcha.

bro why are in the comment section of a franchise made into the you hate

 

[kingslayers1]

if you hate mge so much go find a game you like instant of complaining

 

[AestheticSeeker]

and milking his patreon.

He makes a lot of money from his Monster Girl Encyclopedia books. I have a friend that works at amazon that had to pick one up for someone. They're still selling.

Apparently, he's using all of his Patreon money to pay for the translation. All of that patreon money is going straight to paying for the translator he trusts.

Only for player actions, and even then, with the inclusion of items there's still some variety there.
The player insert for instance can change into an anal insert if you use an item that makes the monstergirl want to do anal.

While the framework looks simple at a glance, I'd still say it's relatively flexible.

In fact, it's probably a good thing to not be TOO flexible in this case so that writing wise, you don't overburden yourself.

Yeah actually that makes sense.
I can see how the game gave himself some avenues to make unique encounters and scenarios.

On top of that being the unique events as well.

Hmmm... that being said, since the difficulty's gonna be practically nill, the game might surprisingly wind up short then.

 

[sammo905]

wow the lack of new info has totally fucked us arguing and predicting on a in progress game liable to change and we have no way of knowing what it will be like until its completely out

 

[NinjaNamedBob]

Man i just want my monster girls smh.Its too bad the guy is developing the game at a snails because of his obsession with perfection(Cant he just publish the game and then slowly work for it over the years like a normal dev?) and milking his patreon.The hope still remains though bwos...we got this

As above, he's allegedly using the funding to have his content translated by people he prefers. Personally, I don't see the point. Tons of fan translators who aren't petty enough to mess with a work they dislike simply because they can. Last translator I talked to for a separate work said they wouldn't do it because it doesn't interest them. Most are like that.

bro why are in the comment section of a franchise made into the you hate

Just because I dislike a property doesn't mean I'll object to engaging with content based on that property, especially parodies. I dislike FNAF. Doesn't mean I'm not going to try the porn parodies out of morbid curiosity. And, if someone in this thread can bring me around to liking MGE (hasn't happened yet) then I'd think that would be a net benefit.

 

[Comiies]

As above, he's allegedly using the funding to have his content translated by people he prefers. Personally, I don't see the point. Tons of fan translators who aren't petty enough to mess with a work they dislike simply because they can. Last translator I talked to for a separate work said they wouldn't do it because it doesn't interest them. Most are like that.



Just because I dislike a property doesn't mean I'll object to engaging with content based on that property, especially parodies. I dislike FNAF. Doesn't mean I'm not going to try the porn parodies out of morbid curiosity. And, if someone in this thread can bring me around to liking MGE (hasn't happened yet) then I'd think that would be a net benefit.

Come back when the game releases(IF) and then well see.I mean realistically do we even have a window for a release date or perhaps another demo? Cause ive been lurking in this thread for some time now and through some media stalking our guy isnt the most vocal about things like these

 

[Minishotgun]

speaking the whole "tension" and "difficulty" of the battles in this game, far as i remember there are two battle types planned, sex-battles with the horny monstergirls, and actual battle with various things like wild beasts or those zealot nutjobs, there might be a game over sequence one day, but even if there game were to be piss easy with hardly any difficulty, i'm just here to experience the world of MGE and how it just live and breathes. so in essence, i'm just here for the immersion.

and nothing wrong with a simple game really, otherwise walking simulators wouldn't be a thing so often. like stanley parable, if we remove the funny dialogue all you do in that game is walk from a to b while funky stuff happens. so i really don't mind if this game were to turn out easy, because if it were, then at least let the world be interesting enough to explore what living in that world would look like.

 

[NinjaNamedBob]

Come back when the game releases(IF) and then well see.I mean realistically do we even have a window for a release date or perhaps another demo? Cause ive been lurking in this thread for some time now and through some media stalking our guy isnt the most vocal about things like these

I wouldn't really be seeking any kind of information on that front. I'm still waiting for Patrick Rothfuss to finish the Kingkiller Chronicles (it's been over 10 years) and someone to give Reboot a satisfying conclusion (over 20 years on that front). If nothing else, his lack of communication might be indicative of either a) he's working at it full-tilt on top of his full-time work, or b) he's doing bits and pieces here and there. Honestly, as much as I don't mind the drip-feed of content that indie devs provide, I would rather they have an alpha that just needs a few bugs they need to work out before they release a demo.

speaking the whole "tension" and "difficulty" of the battles in this game, far as i remember there are two battle types planned, sex-battles with the horny monstergirls, and actual battle with various things like wild beasts or those zealot nutjobs, there might be a game over sequence one day, but even if there game were to be piss easy with hardly any difficulty, i'm just here to experience the world of MGE and how it just live and breathes. so in essence, i'm just here for the immersion.

I personally feel like if the worst the world has to offer is a bunch of feral monster girls and cultists, feral beasts are probably small fries by comparison. I would also think in a world where magic is present, the notion that someone can casually blitz through to the de facto leader ruins the immersion. If there is an in-lore reason like sex battles de-power the PC, that at least justifies two things.

and nothing wrong with a simple game really, otherwise walking simulators wouldn't be a thing so often. like stanley parable, if we remove the funny dialogue all you do in that game is walk from a to b while funky stuff happens. so i really don't mind if this game were to turn out easy, because if it were, then at least let the world be interesting enough to explore what living in that world would look like.

You do realize the funky stuff and dialogue are why Stanley Parable got so popular, right? Because, despite it being a simple "walking simulator" it has both writing and event triggers that invite the player to make a different choice every now and then. Its piss-easy because the point isn't "winning" but pushing the boundaries of what one should expect from a different action, which in itself requires an effort on the player's behalf. There are 3 goddamn endings for a bucket.

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[Minishotgun]

You do realize the funky stuff and dialogue are why Stanley Parable got so popular, right? Because, despite it being a simple "walking simulator" it has both writing and event triggers that invite the player to make a different choice every now and then. Its piss-easy because the point isn't "winning" but pushing the boundaries of what one should expect from a different action, which in itself requires an effort on the player's behalf. There are 3 goddamn endings for a bucket.

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Exactly, this game lives and breathes for its world and dialogue, it isn't difficult at all, and all you do is walk, but the dialouge and what might happen is so good you want to explore more, find out what happens if you do this or that, besides, the broom closet ending is the best one.

 

[TheUnsaid]

and nothing wrong with a simple game really, otherwise walking simulators wouldn't be a thing so often. like stanley parable, if we remove the funny dialogue all you do in that game is walk from a to b while funky stuff happens. so i really don't mind if this game were to turn out easy, because if it were, then at least let the world be interesting enough to explore what living in that world would look like.

I agree completely.

Though I wouldn't call it the MGERPG if that was the case.
If he's designing an SLG it'd be better to call it MGESLG in that case.

 

[Looks at Monster Girls]

As long as you do stuff you'll win 100% and I can see why the game is designed that way... Cause it's not about the player winning, just the player doing whatever they want to the girls.

But like... then how will the game make the battles between girls feel different? I started thinking about that, and can't really understand what he could do there.

You do realize you've only played a very brief section of an early pre-release demo, right? Not to mention the Imp and Werecat are both tutorials aka they're SUPPOSED to be easy as hell to beat. You have to almost intentionally throw to lose against them, but it's very possible to do so if you make the wrong choices. Obviously what KC's likely to do is make it so that for later girls, you have to avoid specific stances, target certain areas, and use items to give yourself an easier time of it.

For instance the Imp has a Temptation attack that forces you to do things to her and while in her case it's basically just free attacks for you, the Imp is literally bottom of the bin when it comes to succubi and in the hands of any actually powerful member of the family it would probably be a SERIOUS threat. Likewise you get plenty of hints on the way to the Werecat that letting her suck you off is an fantastically terrible idea, which is meant to teach you that yes, each girl does in fact have one stance that will spell defeat for you if you let her lock you into it. And while it's easy to dodge the Imp and Werecat's specialties by asking them to enter into literally any other stance with you, there's no guarantee that other girls will be so accommodating on the first date.

I also have no idea how they plan on implementing the submissive content for the girls, since so far, each fight ends with the girls riding you until you literally pass out. If they plan on giving doggystyle, or mating press to any of the girls as their insertion image, that won't work, so... like... that's also very limiting on the images we'll get in game too.

You can literally ask the Werecat to suck you off in the street and her only complaint is that you're not whipping your dick out fast enough. Seems pretty subby to me.

This game's clearly supposed to be less of a strict dom/sub thing and more of a "you and the girl doing whatever you want to each other" kind of affair. Making certain girls have specific extra sub/dom only dynamics seems a bit unnecessary and also goes against the nature of having a universal battlefuck system to begin with. As for the images, KC can essentially use any positions he wants, all he has to do is continue being clever with the perspective so that they obfuscate who's on top or bottom. He's a very experienced artist, he'll figure it out.

So the subs magically force you to keep going until exhaustion through venoms/pheremonoes/aphrodisiac and stuff? Shouldn't it be due to the player's desire?

That's one of the basic foundations for how monster girl sex works in this setting. Monster girls take guys' mana during sex, and the ratio of usable mana they get is much higher than what they actually take... meaning they fuck a guy, steal all his mana, then use a small bit of it to fully replenish his reserves, and then repeat the process as much as they like. Basically, a single orgasm lets them become nonstop fuck machines.

And it's not like they "force" you to keep going. Whenever you black out it's more like you're absolutely loving it and want more but your body literally cannot keep going, so the girls decide to fuck you in your sleep so you can keep feeling good even as you black out from exhaustion. MC doesn't actually WANT to stop fucking them (and neither should the player) so it's more just your girl taking matters into her own hands since you can't do it yourself.

 

[NinjaNamedBob]

That's one of the basic foundations for how monster girl sex works in this setting. Monster girls take guys' mana during sex, and the ratio of usable mana they get is much higher than what they actually take... meaning they fuck a guy, steal all his mana, then use a small bit of it to fully replenish his reserves, and then repeat the process as much as they like. Basically, a single orgasm lets them become nonstop fuck machines.

That... sounds really rapey. I get the intent, but all I can think is the monster girl wants to exhaust and break her victim, so of course she's going to keep him going as long as she could. What's the point of a one-off screw if you've got a consistent source of energy that won't put up a fight once you've screwed the will to resist out of it?

And it's not like they "force" you to keep going. Whenever you black out it's more like you're absolutely loving it and want more but your body literally cannot keep going, so the girls decide to fuck you in your sleep so you can keep feeling good even as you black out from exhaustion. MC doesn't actually WANT to stop fucking them (and neither should the player) so it's more just your girl taking matters into her own hands since you can't do it yourself.

What in the name of Illias is this rape-apologist stuff? "It's not like they force you to keep going" after you just spent an entire paragraph explaining how they force you to keep going. Also, this paragraph just makes it sound like you end up "liking it" not as a result of a natural reaction, but the more likely nature of psychological trauma derived from, I dunno, being raped? Is it actually written as "dude gets jumped/seduced/magicked by some monster and ends up liking it because sex?"

 

[tonyhawksunnyd]

somehow this is not the discussion i expected in the porn game forum

 

[aaronlancaster]

This is mind & dick blowing...

 

[Welt-schmerz]

If Kenko doesn't post by the end of this month I'll die.

 

[Looks at Monster Girls]

That... sounds really rapey.

Jesus Christ. TOURIST!

What in the name of Illias is this rape-apologist stuff?

The audacity to be here complaining about rape when you're so much of a MGQ fanboy that you use this cringe-ass phrase.

You barely know anything about this setting, and yet you're here in the forum of a game based on said setting complaining about it, because you don't understand said setting. Just stop, it's obnoxious. We shouldn't have to sell you on this property because you can't be bothered to read up on it yourself.

 

[kingslayers1]

That... sounds really rapey. I get the intent, but all I can think is the monster girl wants to exhaust and break her victim, so of course she's going to keep him going as long as she could. What's the point of a one-off screw if you've got a consistent source of energy that won't put up a fight once you've screwed the will to resist out of it?



What in the name of Illias is this rape-apologist stuff? "It's not like they force you to keep going" after you just spent an entire paragraph explaining how they force you to keep going. Also, this paragraph just makes it sound like you end up "liking it" not as a result of a natural reaction, but the more likely nature of psychological trauma derived from, I dunno, being raped? Is it actually written as "dude gets jumped/seduced/magicked by some monster and ends up liking it because sex?"

as i sad before bob if you hate mge so much go find a game you like instant of complaining

 

[kingslayers1]

like bro we get it you hate mge so why are you even here bro