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If everyone thought like you, no one would post or care about the property.
Yo bro, I was actually replaying this game because of the recent interest in it and comments.

Is it just me or is it worse feeling than b4?

For one thing, since the game cheats on winning like you said, the "battles" don't really have any tension. As long as you do stuff you'll win 100% and I can see why the game is designed that way... Cause it's not about the player winning, just the player doing whatever they want to the girls.

But like... then how will the game make the battles between girls feel different? I started thinking about that, and can't really understand what he could do there.

Hell even starting a new game and choosing a weakness that's advantageous to the current girls, the game cheating for the love gauge still means you'll probably win.

The way the game's menu's set up, the amount of actions is also very limiting. For instance, I doubt you can do anal in the future, because of how the game sets up possible actions.

I also have no idea how they plan on implementing the submissive content for the girls, since so far, each fight ends with the girls riding you until you literally pass out. If they plan on giving doggystyle, or mating press to any of the girls as their insertion image, that won't work, so... like... that's also very limiting on the images we'll get in game too.

I don't know... the more I play, the more I feel like there's gotta be significant changes to the game to fit more characters, and I can't see a path for what KC could do to go in to keep the game fresh for new girls to get introduced.
 
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Yo bro, I was actually replaying this game because of the recent interest in it and comments.

Is it just me or is it worse feeling than b4?

For one thing, since the game cheats on winning like you said, the "battles" don't really have any tension. As long as you do stuff you'll win 100% and I can see why the game is designed that way... Cause it's not about the player winning, just the player doing whatever they want to the girls.

But like... then how will the game make the battles between girls feel different? I started thinking about that, and can't really understand what he could do there.

Hell even starting a new game and choosing a weakness that's advantageous to the current girls, the game cheating for the love gauge still means you'll probably win.

The way the game's menu's set up, the amount of actions is also very limiting. For instance, I doubt you can do anal in the future, because of how the game sets up possible actions.

I also have no idea how they plan on implementing the submissive content for the girls, since so far, each fight ends with the girls riding you until you literally pass out. If they plan on giving doggystyle, or mating press to any of the girls as their insertion image, that won't work, so... like... that's also very limiting on the images we'll get in game too.

I don't know... the more I play, the more I feel like there's gotta be significant changes to the game to fit more characters, and I can't see a path for what KC could do to go in to keep the game fresh for new girls to get introduced.
It's an H game, if you're looking for tension you may want to play a horror game. The game was built on purpose so you don't "lose".

MGE is ultimately text based, and MGERPG will probably be the same, with most actions being portrayed via text and only two or three via images- but mostly still text.

Multiple monsters rely on venoms / pheromones / aphrodisiacs / monster mana to keep a human going- I don't see how KC can't just make scenes fade to black (like the way it currently is) with the main character still going at it.

I genuinely don't see the issues you are seeing, sorry. It's just text.
 
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there are plenty of H games that still keep encounters tense and interesting. personally i like getting invested in the scene by really trying to come out on top, and either really getting defeated by a stronger opponent or really dominating them. if all i wanted was set-in-stone text, i'd just read a porn fic.
 

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It's an H game, if you're looking for tension you may want to play a horror game. The game was built on purpose so you don't "lose".
Part of a porn game is the "game" part. By definition, a game is "a form of play or sport, especially a competitive one played according to rules and decided by skill, strength, or luck." By those merits alone, it requires some effort on the behalf of the player to achieve success. If you don't want to put in any effort for your porn, why are you on a porn games forum?

MGE is ultimately text based, and MGERPG will probably be the same, with most actions being portrayed via text and only two or three via images- but mostly still text.
MGQ and MGD are effectively text-based, too. Your point loses merit when other games in the same genre do what MGE does, better.

Multiple monsters rely on venoms / pheromones / aphrodisiacs / monster mana to keep a human going- I don't see how KC can't just make scenes fade to black (like the way it currently is) with the main character still going at it.
So, you've never played another game in this genre, then? Often, the MC is kidnapped and either brainwashed or otherwise rendered incapable of escape from their captor. Luka often got taken to a monster's home and subjected to hours of mating that resulted in him succumbing to the experience, or being brainwashed into accepting his role. In MGD, the PC can be hypnotized in several cases and have their fetishes become debilitating to the point where fights are impossible. In the latter case, the game is still in development so "bad ends" aren't currently implemented. That said, the gameplay allows for a player to experience the same content in different forms without preventing them from losing a fight.

I genuinely don't see the issues you are seeing, sorry. It's just text.
I seriously dislike how some people flippantly disregard how difficult writing actually is. There is a reason why a thousand "writers" from some no-name forum are getting passed over while the next John Grisham or James Islington is being published. Writing is not as simple as breathing. Even in a porn game, it takes time to craft a satisfying sex scene. It takes more than "I went plap plap plap in her vajayjay" to get 99% of functioning adults off. Are you by chance one of those few people who get off to stick figures bumping uglies?
 

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Part of a porn game is the "game" part. By definition, a game is "a form of play or sport, especially a competitive one played according to rules and decided by skill, strength, or luck." By those merits alone, it requires some effort on the behalf of the player to achieve success. If you don't want to put in any effort for your porn, why are you on a porn games forum?
It's funny that you call me out for not caring about effort and then you bring up MGQ, a game where to find sex scenes you have to lose on purpose to get raped.

MGE caters to a specific niche of lovey dovey monster girls, not every game requires effort. Visual novels are considered games for a reason.

MGQ and MGD are effectively text-based, too. Your point loses merit when other games in the same genre do what MGE does, better.
I'd like to know which good monster girl games out there exist. MGQ is downright disgusting in terms of illustrations and the writing is not good at all. If by MGD you mean Monster Girl Dreams, that game is a snoozer and has no illustrations at all.

So, you've never played another game in this genre, then? Often, the MC is kidnapped and either brainwashed or otherwise rendered incapable of escape from their captor. Luka often got taken to a monster's home and subjected to hours of mating that resulted in him succumbing to the experience, or being brainwashed into accepting his role. In MGD, the PC can be hypnotized in several cases and have their fetishes become debilitating to the point where fights are impossible. In the latter case, the game is still in development so "bad ends" aren't currently implemented. That said, the gameplay allows for a player to experience the same content in different forms without preventing them from losing a fight.
I kind of love how this is completely unrelated to what I was talking about- I played through all of MGQ and tried most of the monster girl games posted on this forum. Different games to cater to different people, and MGE is not MGQ, and bad endings literally do not exist since monster girls do not kill. Either they end up having sex or they end up having sex.

I seriously dislike how some people flippantly disregard how difficult writing actually is.
Kenko Cross is a good writer, my statement was made within the consensus that it's KC writing and that he has no limitations within text- which he doesn't.

Are you by chance one of those few people who get off to stick figures bumping uglies?
Believe it or not the average person can jerk off to nothing and still orgasm.

I do not understand how you wrote an essay over a relatively short and mild comment, nor do I understand how a disagreement over a porn game can make you so upset, but alas, here we are.

To everyone else: if you dislike linear games, then maybe this is not for you. Considering there's plenty of people coping in this thread, evidently the game has a fanbase.
 
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MGQ is downright disgusting in terms of illustrations
Wellp, if ya like men, then ya like men and that's that. No need to drag a perfectly good game with historical relevance for the monster girl genre over your closeted homosexuality. Not that I fault you, dick is obviously far superior over pussy as a sexual organ. Wya rn?
 
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But like... then how will the game make the battles between girls feel different? I started thinking about that, and can't really understand what he could do there.
I agree it's pretty limiting there.

However, don't forget that items exist, and the monster girls can have unique actions unrelated to the begging commands.
For instance, Imp's temptation.

The way the game's menu's set up, the amount of actions is also very limiting. For instance, I doubt you can do anal in the future, because of how the game sets up possible actions.
Only for player actions, and even then, with the inclusion of items there's still some variety there.
The player insert for instance can change into an anal insert if you use an item that makes the monstergirl want to do anal.

While the framework looks simple at a glance, I'd still say it's relatively flexible.

In fact, it's probably a good thing to not be TOO flexible in this case so that writing wise, you don't overburden yourself.

I also have no idea how they plan on implementing the submissive content for the girls, since so far, each fight ends with the girls riding you until you literally pass out. If they plan on giving doggystyle, or mating press to any of the girls as their insertion image, that won't work, so... like... that's also very limiting on the images we'll get in game too.

I don't know... the more I play, the more I feel like there's gotta be significant changes to the game to fit more characters, and I can't see a path for what KC could do to go in to keep the game fresh for new girls to get introduced.
Yeah no, I fully agree with this and have even brought it up before. I have no clue.

For Imp, the way they did it was by making a special scene completely unrelated to the game's combat system. That being said all instances of submissive content for the girls happens outside of the main combat system so far so I don't know how he plans on introducing submissive monster girls.

It's an H game, if you're looking for tension you may want to play a horror game. The game was built on purpose so you don't "lose".
Tension just means a little bit of effort.

Like the feeling of will I win or lose. It doesn't have to be a horror game. Hell the most tense game on this planet and NO ONE WILL CONVINCE ME OTHERWISE, is Super Monkey Ball.
Multiple monsters rely on venoms / pheromones / aphrodisiacs / monster mana to keep a human going- I don't see how KC can't just make scenes fade to black (like the way it currently is) with the main character still going at it.
This is... true, but that feels like such a cop out.

To me anyway.

So the subs magically force you to keep going until exhaustion through venoms/pheremonoes/aphrodisiac and stuff? Shouldn't it be due to the player's desire?
 

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It's funny that you call me out for not caring about effort and then you bring up MGQ, a game where to find sex scenes you have to lose on purpose to get raped.
You can get those scenes by re-fighting the monsters in the gallery, though? You lose nothing for engaging with the content or not doing so. I also don't get your point. You believe it takes less effort to write a full sex scene and commission additional cg's for said scenes, than it is to repeat cg's and dialogue for a scene ad infinitum until player decides to win?

MGE caters to a specific niche of lovey dovey monster girls, not every game requires effort. Visual novels are considered games for a reason.
VN's are a really terrible example for you to lean on. They're largely considered the laziest form of "games" because the amount of effort one requires to understand the engine (ironically, some devs like ToroToro have added unique functions to their VNs) and put text and some images into said engine isn't that substantial. Most people can do it. The player also isn't being required to engage with the "game" in any mechanical way. Most people who play video games are more interested in getting to content through adversity. VN's just let you press skip until you get the content you want.

A good game should be entertaining and engaging, which should require effort. People don't derive satisfaction from doing nothing all day.

I'd like to know which good monster girl games out there exist. MGQ is downright disgusting in terms of illustrations and the writing is not good at all. If by MGD you mean Monster Girl Dreams, that game is a snoozer and has no illustrations at all.
Monster Girl Dreams has plenty of illustrations. I mean, look at my signature, dude. What do you call that? And in terms of it being a snoozer, to each their own. I think you're wrong, but that's not really the point. You're just blatantly lying.

MGQ's cg's are fine until part 3. Not masterpieces, but they're enough.


I kind of love how this is completely unrelated to what I was talking about- I played through all of MGQ and tried most of the monster girl games posted on this forum. Different games to cater to different people, and MGE is not MGQ, and bad endings literally do not exist since monster girls do not kill. Either they end up having sex or they end up having sex.
How is it not relevant? You were literally pointing out how most other games employ an endless sex fade, which is just inherently wrong. Again. But also, I pointed out some examples of how scenes generally end, the most mentioned being MGQ's usual variety. In terms of KC's world not having bad endings, you're again just wrong. There are is literally a cult hell-bent on turning all the males into loilicons via sex, regardless of their victim's preferences. That's not exactly some cheerful stuff, bud.

Kenko Cross is a good writer, my statement was made within the consensus that it's KC writing and that he has no limitations within text- which he doesn't.
Ah, yes, that one time he forced a fanfiction author to remove their story from fanfiction.net because he was upset over someone writing monster girls being harmed in that author's story. I'm sure he has no limitations within text. Jesus, dude. Stop sucking his dick so hard.

Believe it or not the average person can jerk off to nothing and still orgasm.
Yes, Not some common occurence that happens to everyone. Did you even bother to do the most basic research before replying? Methinks not.

I do not understand how you wrote an essay over a relatively short and mild comment, nor do I understand how a disagreement over a porn game can make you so upset, but alas, here we are.
I'm hardly upset, but nice try. Maybe if you spent less time talking out your butt, you'd manage to learn something for once. Also, if you're going to say things that are just objectively incorrect, calling you stupid and walking away does nothing to address the reasons why you're wrong. If nothing else, taking the time to detail why you are wrong helps inform people on two things: 1) you're an idiot who doesn't know what they're talking about, and 2) there is other media out there in a similar niche to MGE that might appeal to them.

To everyone else: if you dislike linear games, then maybe this is not for you. Considering there's plenty of people coping in this thread, evidently the game has a fanbase.
I don't see anyone coping. I fundamentally dislike MGE as a property and I think the author is an entitled crybaby who can't handle criticism or other people creating content around his work. Torotoro Resistance didn't pick a fight with 4chan over the memes and crap. You don't see Scott Cawthon running around filing C/D notices on itch.io and here over the surplus of parody games. He also of his work (I posted the original 1d4chan post detailing everything, but it's dead now so I'm just using the ulmf post as a reference point instead. Unsaid can corroborate it) and blamed his western audience for not understanding the Japanese salaryman mindset. He's a whiny child who can't handle any form of deviation or criticism around his work.

I'm gonna throw in this as well, I won't bother responding to a second rant.

If you disagree and I disagree, whatever, who cares.
In other words, you can't handle being wrong. Gotcha.
 
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