- Thread starter Muff Diver
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- Nov 20, 2017
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Level cap increased between versions :
v2.41 (Aka Part 2) -> Level Cap at 70
v3.00 Demo (Aka Part 3 Demo) -> Level Cap at 80
v3.00 and later (Aka Part 3) -> Level Cap at 9999
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Yeah unless he adds an insane way to level in fourth route that cap is impossible without cheating, I leveled fairly my Luka thinking max was 999 then I reached 1002 now, and it took like 6h of grinding (from 300-1002 with a 500% xp boost item and one shotting all the mobs) the best current leveling spot in the game and that's barely 1/10 from max with xp getting higher and higher each level it's easy to assume that at the current rate it would take 500h+ xD
The real problem with the game's balancing is that they made the stat growth exponential. Big numbers are fine when you get to them roughly linearly, but exponential growth has huge problems with game balance - in particular, because the growth is exponential, it kills the viability of mixed builds (a mixed build will be something like 1/1000 as tanky as a tanky build and do 1/1000 as much damage as a DPS build.. which makes it kind of pointless ever using it - 2 mixed builds are worse than using 1 tanky and 1 DPS build in every situation), and it means that boss fights will almost always be either "you kill it in 1 hit" or "you need 1000 attacks to be able to kill it" and very little inbetween.
Also, there's almost no "in combat strategy". All of the strategy in this game is done outside of combat. If you built your characters properly, the fight will be so easy that it can't even be considered a fight. If you didn't, then it will be nearly impossible. There's almost no decision making in the fight - as soon as you've entered the fight you've usually already pretty much won or lost and the decision you make are barely anything more than a rounding error.
- Oct 7, 2017
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Lime will stay in my active roster of characters until the end cuz she's my waifuwth is lime doing there
There's a possibilty that the lack of morals will be answered in the fourth route, im not hopeful, but at the same time kinda am, because it would solve a major hole in the writing (not a plot hole, im reffering to the lacking writing of the game itself) of luka.
Given that it's obvious what the 4th route will entail, i'm really curious what TT is going to pull of, this is his last chance to fix issues which have existed since part 1 and 2, not sure what light dark and chaos routes entailed but given the angst of the writing and previous track record im not hopeful that is improved that much
Companions with recruitment increase abilities, also prayer
- Oct 7, 2017
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level 999? those are level 9999 lmao
and part 3 removed the level cap, so........
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indeed, if I play normally, I wont be able to finish translation per route for around a month or so after all, proofreading all those jumbled dialogues are HELL if I still need to be good at the game to progress, good thing there's also demon ward bracelet item in-game to basically skip most fights to get to the main story dialogues
that's why I warned them about my save files because 50% of my units are level 9999 with billions of stats, basically making the game as EX mode where you one shot everything lol
- Nov 25, 2020
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Fair point, so that's why i'd make the claim the only way its actually fixable is complete metagaming.
They can pull a shrift if they want to, not only is the connection between 'our world' and the expanded porn game universe canon but so is the existence of higher forces which can use the power of intervention
If you didn't play shrift that's fine, that was just a (half) joke anyway, as much as a i like meta narratives (not shrift though), a switch like that would be very hard to pull off.
There are 2 possibilites in which it can go
Shitty plot twist: If we simply go by track record and expectations from people like you or me, we'll get a very shitty justification, it was mind control by amira (
), or it was because luka is literally a child born between a recreation of his father made by chaos itself, or anything you can think would make you audibly groan about the fact you played this game for so long.The totally not gonna happen but so help us god, if you are are there: If we hold onto the possiblity that TT will hear our pleading voices, something good might actually happen.
Luka's garbage life is acknowledged (bonafide deadbeat mother, jobber dimensional travelling father, "send the minor" aunt, literal god of light itself great great great great..... great grandmother), the numerous deaths and rewinds, luka is actually given agency as a character, if only there are unicorns in this world
Even as a cynic i believe the game can be turned over and finished off on a good note without it being forced or weird if it's actually done well, a route is more than enough time for actual character development.
2 side notes, do you guys think that the fourth route will be a case where you dont choose between illias and alice and you just take both? And second, the reason i think metagame is possible is entirely cause of the new game plus feature, because you can easily use it as a justification for why there are so many shitty timelines, or even why luka acts so clueless and bonafide cruel compared to his counterpart. Basically some kind of project moon or black souls type shit.
It's been infalted since part 2, now we're just going all the way
Are you kidding?
65% regen and possilby more below? What ths fucking point of a support or items at that point.
We already don't choose between Alice or Ilias in the 3rd route, so I don't know why you're even talking about the 4th route.
There a 4th one but not sure what it about yet
Highly that we will now get all the ruination to be our team tho
- Sep 29, 2017
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did you add the patch.rb files inside the folder too ? I mean the updated patch files ?
try this one. Work for me on 3.01
- Nov 25, 2020
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Oh really? I wasn't aware as i didn't play the game yet (and not planning on it), and not sure what your question means, are you not aware it exists or you don't see a point in the topic? Cause it has plenty of points, given that it's the actual last last and likely cannonical ending to this franchise, TT cannot revive it afterwards in the slightest without ruining the already bad story even more
- Sep 29, 2017
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When people are speaking about the 20% life crisis Luka build, they spoke about a way to get him to 20% each fight with an accessory. What is the accessory or the way to get him to these 20% ?
chapter 3 already out but still in japanese i will take time to get english translation
- Sep 29, 2017
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"full"
Not translated by human but translated by machine
https://f95zone.to/threads/monster-...-v3-00-torotoro-resistance.1766/post-15329559
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the max is full health, full mana, full sp regen each turn, I have that oneView attachment 4252917
Are you kidding?
65% regen and possilby more below? What ths fucking point of a support or items at that point.
And there is also a revive every turn Passive, so yeah kinda bonkers
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Sooo you are bitching about "bad writing" but did not play? Whut? I'm confused x)