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RPGM Completed Monster Girl Quest: Paradox [Part 3 v3.01] [Torotoro Resistance]

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Yoloswagking

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it should be in the op think someone updated it while i was asleep
The version in the op is 3.01 with translation ported from 2.41 with some mtool files inside but without the mtool folder so pretty strange because it seems that the folder should have mtool. Of course people are free to find mtool and use translation files that you can find on this forum (https://f95zone.to/threads/monster-...-v3-01-torotoro-resistance.1766/post-15329559) but the fact that mtool has been removed from the op link is strange.

Maybe the op could have link to my post that explain how to use mtool in order to translate part 3 because most people are probably wanting to download the link in the first page to play part 3 content. Like the link for the unscensor mod.
 
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Qibing0

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Hey guys! Suddenly my Mtool stopped translating files correctly and now it only translates half of them, do you have any idea what could be the problem and how to fix it? It happened out of the blue, I don't remember doing anything to the files. I tried starting the translation again, but nothing.

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lolistomper69

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Hey guys! Suddenly my Mtool stopped translating files correctly and now it only translates half of them, do you have any idea what could be the problem and how to fix it? It happened out of the blue, I don't remember doing anything to the files. I tried starting the translation again, but nothing.

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Use bobmtl, its for 3.01 though, it doesnt use MTool so it doesnt crash or lag and is compatible with joiplay. Better translation quality too.
 

circuit

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He did care, the story just fell into the same trap a lot of stories that try to deal with morality fall into. The game assumes you're also a human for obvious reasons and thus understand his perspective of being pro-human. It's being anti-human, or in other words a misanthrope, that usually needs to be explained because it's the unnatural perspective for most.

The actual idea that's being played with is that monster girls preying on humans are no more evil than a wolf preying on a wounded deer calf. Nature is just nature, but from the perspective of an empathetic sapient species, it can only be defined as cruel. And oh boy, is it worse than many think. There are species that eat their own kids. Sea otters will hold theirs ransom to force mothers to give up their food, and they also rape baby seals. If the seals resist, they drown them first, then continue raping them.

What throws a wrench in this is that despite acting on their instincts, monsters in this game are mostly sapient too. That's why it's hard to feel sorry for them, but what Luka is doing is saying that acting on their instincts isn't inherently evil and that it would be to their benefit if they worked alongside humans to prevent needing to, then punish those that continue to hurt people justly the way we do with humans. Kinda of the vampire problem, with it being unrealistic for modern vampires to need to kill or really even harm humans, they could very easily coexist in the modern world if all they need is blood.

It's just really badly written, especially when it comes to kinks like vore which indicate an especially cruel monster (or angel) because it shouldn't be necessary for them. Luka definitely shouldn't be letting these monsters go. In a more realistic setting (which this isn't trying to be), Luka's realization that monsters are no different than humans would inherently also mean that they can choose to be just as heartlessly cruel and thus need to be stopped and punished.

Kind of long winded, but IMO the point is that Luka does care about humans. His whole thing is stopping the monsters after all. He just doesn't want to kill them, even if he should in some cases. From the perspective of other monsters though, his reluctance to see monsters as lesser beings and outright murder them says a lot of good things about him.

This contrasts with the traditional RPG "red is dead" where you kill enemies presented to you without question without stopping to consider you murdered people just because they were in the way. Maybe they were wronged, maybe the bandits were just starving civilians abandoned by their lords who are trying to survive (like many bandits historically were), and yes, they were criminals, but maybe not you-have-the-objective-right-to-apathetically-execute-them criminals.

But we don't think about that normally for good reason. Monster Girl Quest isn't a game meant to be taken all that seriously, obviously, but as-written Luka definitely does care about humans, even if it isn't always portrayed well in the attempt to 'humanize' monsters, literally and figuratively.
The main issue in the writing is the monster girls that kill humans en masse are not public enemy number one for both humans and monsters even in the originals several monster girl types didn't have to kill or eat you, but they did anyway, and the other species were often just kind of ok with it. Logistically speaking if one monster kills a hundred men during their lifespan than several species doing the same would quickly depopulate humanity this is an unacceptable outcome for both humanity and any species that requires sustenance from them even the ones killing them.
 

JakeMSG

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The main issue in the writing is the monster girls that kill humans en masse are not public enemy number one for both humans and monsters even in the originals several monster girl types didn't have to kill or eat you, but they did anyway, and the other species were often just kind of ok with it. Logistically speaking if one monster kills a hundred men during their lifespan than several species doing the same would quickly depopulate humanity this is an unacceptable outcome for both humanity and any species that requires sustenance from them even the ones killing them.
Interesting point, but you have to keep in mind that even this would be hard to enforce. You'd normally attempt to introduce laws to prevent wanton murder (and for species requiring such sacrificial sustenance, find alternatives; such as sufficient meat products for similar proteins as in actual humans), however a counter-argument from Pro-Monsters would be that "It's in their instinct / genes, much like it is for humans to breathe, eat, blink or shit".

It would be quite hard (not impossible) to establish a common system for all races, and it would have to take into consideration all sorts of such situations/exceptions.
 

circuit

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Interesting point, but you have to keep in mind that even this would be hard to enforce. You'd normally attempt to introduce laws to prevent wanton murder (and for species requiring such sacrificial sustenance, find alternatives; such as sufficient meat products for similar proteins as in actual humans), however a counter-argument from Pro-Monsters would be that "It's in their instinct / genes, much like it is for humans to breathe, eat, blink or shit".

It would be quite hard (not impossible) to establish a common system for all races, and it would have to take into consideration all sorts of such situations/exceptions.
I was more thinking there isn't anything stopping the extermination of species that need to kill to survive take the leech for example it kills not just for reproduction but just to eat as well, there's nothing stopping its neighbors who are quite friendly to humans deciding they need to go for everyone's sake and while that's not as possible with species like succubi laws no matter how ineffective should already have been put in place to cull how much killing happens because it's in no one's interest for humanities population to decline
 

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The version in the op is 3.01 with translation ported from 2.41 with some mtool files inside but without the mtool folder so pretty strange because it seems that the folder should have mtool. Of course people are free to find mtool and use translation files that you can find on this forum (https://f95zone.to/threads/monster-...-v3-01-torotoro-resistance.1766/post-15329559) but the fact that mtool has been removed from the op link is strange.

Maybe the op could have link to my post that explain how to use mtool in order to translate part 3 because most people are probably wanting to download the link in the first page to play part 3 content. Like the link for the unscensor mod.
will ask someone to replace link in op with your pixeldrain and extra mirrors one then am heading back to bed as i've got a cold been fighting it for a few days then it got a lot worse yesterday
 
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Zeyla

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For the dolls:
1. Dark Goddess Alipheese (not a Doll and don't need her for the quest)
2. Saja (not a doll and she'll join to help when you have the others)
3. She is where you give Lacroix the notebook at the end of part 2, the little destroyed place below the shrine of the divine bird.
4. Monster Lord Castle close to last room
5. The cave that goes to Yamatai has her somewhere inside
6. Mount Horai has one towards the end, it's the mountain above Yamatai
7. The Fort below Goddard has one inside
8. Black Alice (Story locked joins automatically just keep playing)
9. Black Mansion (Story locked, technically last one you get unless you missed others)
10. Ghost Ship (Story Locked)
11. Go to Monte Carlo she's at the very bottom of the dungeon you go through to reach the doll maker tower (turns into 2 of them)
12. Same as Above
13. Mountains in snow region, backtrack from the Snow Heaven flight point into the cave
14. Hellgond Shrine (have to go through the cave southn cause the entrance is blocked (Believe this one is story locked though)
15. Alice's mom she is story locked too, can't miss her
16. Alice Herself

They both get their bodies back at the very end of the game you can recruit them post game, so don't be in a hurry :)
 
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SirKhajiit

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For the dolls I don't remember all of them but I'll list the ones I remember from the top of my head
1-2. go to Monte Carlo she's at the very bottom of the dungeon you go through to reach the doll maker tower (turns into 2 of them)
3. The cave that goes to Yamatai has one somewhere inside
4. Mount Horai has one towards the end, it's the mountain above Yamatai
5. The Fort below Goddard has one inside
6. Monster Lord castle has one last room.
7. Black Alice Herself (Story so can't miss her you probably have her)
8. Black Mansion has one this is the last one you can find Story locked
9. Alice's mom she is story locked too, can't miss her
10. Saja Can't miss either
11. One is the mountains in snow region, backtrack from the Snow Heaven flight point into the cave
12. Hellgond Shrine (have to go through the cave south cause the entrance is blocked (Believe this one is story locked though)
13. Ghost Ship Story locked pretty sure too (lots are story locked so annoying )
14. Alice ! Already in your team since forever :p
15. Can't remember this one, last one btw xD Hopefully you got her.

I'll update if I remember


They both get their bodies back at the very end of the game you can recruit them post game, so don't be in a hurry :)
THANK YOU so much, i was only missing the ones in puppetiers cave, coincidentally it was where i missed one randolph too, so i got my hero, dark and light equipment, i forgot that place existed so this saved me ages of wandering
 
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lolistomper69

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will ask someone to replace link in op with your pixeldrain and extra mirrors one then am heading back to bed as i've got a cold been fighting it for a few days then it got a lot worse yesterday
just put both patchers and let people decide which to use
 

uchihafabio

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From ArzorX's translation team:

The translation is now merged with Version 3.02.
Redownload the repository and set up the One-Click Patcher in the new version's directory.

**Do not keep the previous version's scripts,** as one of the plug-ins (289+16 - BetterJobChangeWindow.rb) was removed in the version merge due to incompatibility with changes done to the jobchange system in 3.02. If your game freezes when loading the job change interface, it's because you still have that plug-in.
Perfect. When I am back from work I will patch my game and test it. Then if it works I will update my link.

Then it will be full game + latest version + arzor x translation + mtool + uncensor mod
 
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Zeyla

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Perfect. When I am back from work I will patch my game and test it. Then if it works I will update my link.

Then it will be full game + latest version + arzor x translation + mtool + uncensor mod
is the uncensor mod any good, or is it some sloppy toppy barely acceptable? Cause a lot of uncensor mods seems to be that x)
 

Steel105

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Perfect. When I am back from work I will patch my game and test it. Then if it works I will update my link.

Then it will be full game + latest version + arzor x translation + mtool + uncensor mod
Sounds good. Also, is it possible to compress it?
 
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