To hell with their TOS. Leave it up until they find it. Better still, simply tell patrons to go to SS if they want the dl links and screw Patreon out of their 8% cut while he's at it (anything that screws censorship out of it's funding is a + to me). Alot of devs (ie Mr Dot) have simply removed dl links on Patreon for the AVNs they don't like, but kept the free advertising.
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Porn without plot, no thanks. No matter how cute these girls are I'm not interested in mindless sex, you got pornhub for that. Also the talk about ntr and bestiality is a turn off for me.
Shame, this game could be good if the dev would add an actual story to it. oh well ...
Shame, this game could be good if the dev would add an actual story to it. oh well ...
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I'm guessing that was put there as kind of a joke. I've played through it and there's definitely a storyline and the characters are pretty well written. And, yeah, I defintiely hope some fetishes like beastiality can be ignored.
Yeah, cause no one in the history of rebelling against their parents ever did the opposite of what's been drummed into them their entire lives. Yup yup. I was raised 7th Day Adventist. Clearly that means I NEVER smoked, drank, (takes hit from bong) did drugs (cough cough,wheeze. good shit), ate 'unclean' foods, or, yup yup, got a MASSIVE tattoo that covers half of my back. :s
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Sorry if I was unclear.
What I meant is that it seems out of place for the MC to have that tattoo at the beginning of the game, just as they move out.
If we'd been treated to him going to a tattoo shop the day after the move in, sure it'd make perfect sense in a further rebellion against the tight restrictions they've grown up in. But something that size took some work and possibly more than one visit to the tattoo artist, so it doesn't seem like something he'd have gotten before they were free.
It being vaguely swastika shaped makes me less than comfortable as well.
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Then maybe the dev shouldn't mislead their audience. Just asking people to skip their game … Kinda shooting yourself in the foot …
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Would be a great payback, if she cockblocked him all this time, might be for a reason. e.g. her wanting him for herself... would also give reason to the mentioned cockblocking.In the first release you'll get to see her. My plans with her wasn't for her to be on the table for the MC, but we will see action with her through other means. However plans can always change depending on what people would like to see
And about the other stuf folks seem to have a hangup about, you do you, but if you want to appease the masses, put it behind a choice so they can avoid it, or just tell them if they don't like it, there's a gadzillion other games they can go play. You make what you want, not what they want, and if that steps on someone's toes, let them build their own game...
I agree on the second part to a degree. What many people, myself included, hate and never should be done by a dev, is wrong advertising and misleading your fans/supporters by keeping important infos to yourself. Especially if the potential fans and supporters ask about upcoming controversial fetishes like bestiality, netorare (gender doesn't matter at all), sharing, swinging and incest. And lets face it, telling in the overview it would be a harem game and then throwing content into the game, that is the complete opposite, is a shit move. Not many devs are really able to make a game work with both, harem and NTR, and I pretty much doubt, that it would be the case here.
I suggest that ApaGod clearifies, what his game will contain by updating the OP, and maybe answering some of the posts of the users. Otherwise the game will end on many ignore lists and ends up with a very low to no funding.
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It's understandable people will be disappointed. I don't know what the fuck i'm doing, but it wasn't supposed to be a bait.
My tagging is the main problem, and i'll try to fix that. I understand now that people get very upset if i tag it wrong, but i didn't quite know what harem and NTR entailed. Now i can tell that it's basically impossible to have them together
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To everyone here.
Sorry for the misleading tagging, not my intention to bait y'all into something you don't like.
I don't mind any tags really (Except gay, but even trans shit like in "Apartment 69" i gladly watch), so i didn't think people took it so personally.
But cheers for the criticism. Now i know
Sorry for the misleading tagging, not my intention to bait y'all into something you don't like.
I don't mind any tags really (Except gay, but even trans shit like in "Apartment 69" i gladly watch), so i didn't think people took it so personally.
But cheers for the criticism. Now i know
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I recommend that for the more controversial fetishes, like bestiality and NTR, you create a button in options (and a choice at the beginning of the game) to avoid them. With the button on the player can choose whether to play them or not, with the button off the player doesn't have to worry about them.Sorry you had to see that, messed up the whole tagging thing from what i can tell
I'll make it more clearer what choices leads to what scene in the future, as i probably like a lot of things that other people don't.
Another way would be to clearly indicate which choices lead to certain fetishes.
Personally, if I get to an NTR scene by choosing wrong or find a dog fucking one of the LIs (a more humiliating type of NTR), I would be very upset.
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It's not worth formalizing on tags, write the story according to your tendencies, it's not possible to please everyone even if you have loopholes in the pipeline to make some paths avoidable.To everyone here.
Sorry for the misleading tagging, not my intention to bait y'all into something you don't like.
I don't mind any tags really (Except gay, but even trans shit like in "Apartment 69" i gladly watch), so i didn't think people took it so personally.
But cheers for the criticism. Now i know
I remain of the opinion, as I have written in other threads, that if a story is well written it will be successful regardless of the tags that characterize it.
The various discussions on tags are useless to me, they concern baseless preconceptions which, if they involve the dev, serve more than others to hinder him from creating an original project if it has been designed and prepared to be such.
It seems a bit early to express an opinion on the project, we'll see. Anyway, I really appreciate your way of interacting with users, thanks for game and good luck.
Yeah, "loli" tag is questionable/debateable, but to me loli is when they are actually meant to be prebubescent (not just look like it) with story to back it up and not just appearance (ie One Summer In Loliwood, no ages to set, most of the LIs are 7-10 by default and ages stated as such in dialogs). Most real loli AVN's are banned on F95 thanks to their Rule 7 crap, even though the tag still exists. This would probably get a "hebe" (teens but <18) tag if it existed. "Incest" tag most fans of that kink are going to expect more than just teasing between blood relatives at some point, probably actual sex and maybe even possible creampies and pregnancies (that both have their own tags) though for silly reasons F95 counts even a handjob or fingerbang between step-relatives as incest. As far as people bitching about underaged when they are not, that's on them as sometimes how old a character or even a real girl looks is a matter of opinion (wearing braces is a clue, as those are usually done between 9-14yo). Appearance alone doesn't mean much without story to back it up (ie. how many <18's are in college? How likely are they to be 18 when their MC dad is only 28? etc). While the 2 sisters could maybe pass for 15 (making them look exactly 18 when they are supposed to be a 20yo MC's younger sisters is a tall order) the story situation makes that less likely (ie allowed to move out with their bro but not 18 yet or runaways but no secret basement to hide in when cops come knocking).I'll get on it... My "tagging" is terrible to say the least
Sorry man don't take it personally. It's my first game, and thought the end with the goth sister grabbing the dick would constitute as incest.
Somebody suggested that i added an age setter, but i think i'll remove it again... They are not supposed to be underaged, which is why i changed their sizes for the future. I like small tits, but it doesn't look right if the girl is 6 ft tall. I'm trying to distinguish their age further on by making their hips fuller and asses bigger.
The issue is, if i add the loli tag, then people will come expecting loli's... and if i remove it, then people will yell at me for "They are obviously underaged; weirdo", so it's kind of a lose/lose.
Point taken, i suck at the whole tagging thing
Noooo... that wasn't what i was thinking at all!
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Finally think and write in the dev' note if you have trouble with tags.
Harem or not
Ntr and animals? Avoidable Or Just not visible but still happens?
Future plans
Kinetic?
You want to expose your fetish ok but give the CHOICE! You will get more sub' and avoid being class in the category"Much to watch A porn" A very good example is the game Myriam which has a lot of choice
Good luck.
Harem or not
Ntr and animals? Avoidable Or Just not visible but still happens?
Future plans
Kinetic?
You want to expose your fetish ok but give the CHOICE! You will get more sub' and avoid being class in the category"Much to watch A porn" A very good example is the game Myriam which has a lot of choice
Good luck.
1st off I think its a great starting point! Everything beyond this is just opinion of a 1st time player to the game.
Just discovered this so never saw the sandbox version but I really think you have a great start here. The characters are are well thought out individually and diverse enough they dont seem "copy and paste" both in looks and attitude. I think the main take away on the fetishes is to make choices obvious to the player and also make it so the choices are actual choices that impact the story unlike some games that have you make a choice then 2 scenes later go through with something you didn't want. I know that adds branching story possibilities but you could mainly avoid this by just making each choice skip a scene or add a scene. I get that everyone has their own fetishes so they want to see them included in the game and want ones they don't like excluded but really as long as the choice is up to the player to skip say a golden shower scene then they never have to see the scene they dont like where people that do like it can watch scene.
Example here is MC is taking a shower when Luna walks in on him (later in the relationship obviously) and you provide the player with few options |Shower sex|Golden shower|Get out of shower| etc.
I hope you aren't beating yourself up on anything so far because it really has a ton of potential and what is already here is good. I really hope to see this game take off with plenty of updates to come and a long run of it.
Just discovered this so never saw the sandbox version but I really think you have a great start here. The characters are are well thought out individually and diverse enough they dont seem "copy and paste" both in looks and attitude. I think the main take away on the fetishes is to make choices obvious to the player and also make it so the choices are actual choices that impact the story unlike some games that have you make a choice then 2 scenes later go through with something you didn't want. I know that adds branching story possibilities but you could mainly avoid this by just making each choice skip a scene or add a scene. I get that everyone has their own fetishes so they want to see them included in the game and want ones they don't like excluded but really as long as the choice is up to the player to skip say a golden shower scene then they never have to see the scene they dont like where people that do like it can watch scene.
Example here is MC is taking a shower when Luna walks in on him (later in the relationship obviously) and you provide the player with few options |Shower sex|Golden shower|Get out of shower| etc.
I hope you aren't beating yourself up on anything so far because it really has a ton of potential and what is already here is good. I really hope to see this game take off with plenty of updates to come and a long run of it.
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See and that's an issue too... Where i live, you can get braces for free up until you're 18 for free (So Europe...), so having braces in the ages 18-21 is completely normal. Meaning a thing people would interprete as young, is here not as much associated with <18.
One of my favourite games on here. Never a scene that disappoints me from there. I would like to make a game with that much choice, but i guessed it was too much of a burden to start out with.
Stuff may very well happen soon to the poor woman.
My hobby is 3d modeling, so i thought why not. Means i'm still new to the VN stuff and need all the input i can get.
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Hi !
Very nice game so far !
If you don't mind the feedback APA :
- I would create an "unofficial" patch for the "nicest" stuff. Otherwise, Patreon will hate you and bann you It's only a matter of time...
- MC's dick is not big enough ! Just kidding I'm a simple guy and I love when MCs have big dick in those kind of game. The bigger, the better! I hope you don't let anyone from the "realistic sect" talk you out of it
Question regarding the tags :
- Looks like [Bestiality] will appear in the future tags? I wouldn't mind it, as long as there is a "panic button" for the casual players
- As for [ntr], making it avoidable in-game is the good way to do it (like... if you fuck up, it might happen)... but just making it skippable/off-screen is the WORST way to do it as it still happens, right?
I predict your game will do very well ! Best wishes for the future
Very nice game so far !
If you don't mind the feedback APA :
- I would create an "unofficial" patch for the "nicest" stuff. Otherwise, Patreon will hate you and bann you
It's only a matter of time...- MC's dick is not big enough ! Just kidding I'm a simple guy and I love when MCs have big dick in those kind of game. The bigger, the better! I hope you don't let anyone from the "realistic sect" talk you out of it
Question regarding the tags :
- Looks like [Bestiality] will appear in the future tags? I wouldn't mind it, as long as there is a "panic button" for the casual players
- As for [ntr], making it avoidable in-game is the good way to do it (like... if you fuck up, it might happen)... but just making it skippable/off-screen is the WORST way to do it as it still happens, right?
I predict your game will do very well ! Best wishes for the future