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Full unlock gallery patch attached, drop it in the game folder, make sure the filename is "zz_ff.rpy".

Should work for all versions of the game unless the gallery changes in a completely incompatible way.

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Last updated: v1.8.
 

madman11122

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Not for nothing but I felt the the game played from the POV of the shota cousin not from the older cousin. It didn't feel like NTR from the players POV. Its a bit of an odd game but SS fans will probably enjoy. I'll watch the development to see how things progress. I hope the Dev gets help with the translation because its not an enjoyable read.
 

fried

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Changing the tags: this is a multiple protagonist game or possibly a female protagonist-only. It's definitely not exclusively male protagonist: all of the player's choices are made as the female character. Even though the boyfriend starts as narrator and sets up the date between his cousin and girlfriend, we quickly play the game from that point as that female character and all choices in this game are when playing from her perspective.

Therefore, the scene with her ex in the men's room is not netorare (NTR tag at this site) because you are playing as her character by that point and willingly cheating on your boyfriend (i.e., netorase).

Likewise, the scenes where you play as the girlfriend and have sex with your boyfriend's cousin are all based on your choices + the boyfriend wanted it to happen - he even set it up.

Removing the NTR tag.
 

yihman1

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I love the visual art style, but that's about it. Much of the rest is bad.

Character build up is too weak. Many of the characters are cringe and annoying.

Micheal: A "Evil Super Powered Cuck" for some reason? It's like he has a "Super Power" to be cucked by his little cousin or something? A completely unnecessary and annoying super power. Little cuz would have hit that on his own. The guy comes off as like a wanna be super villain, but he is just a cuck... It's really weird and cringe as fuck.

A cuck character would be far better written as just a trusting and boring and aloof "blank slate".... Not a "Super Villian Cuck"... Really? wtf is that about? Being a cuck is NOT a superpower... Sorry to tell you dude, but you have no super powers... You are just dating a slut.

Luh: "The Girlfriend" She is gonna get that dick or any dick for that matter EASY... Any choice you pick she is getting dicked up by either the little cousin or some other dude. She is too much of a slut at the start to be properly "Corrupted" If you pick "Romantic Movie" on the 1st choice she goes off and fucks some guy in the bathroom? If Horror she winds up fucking the little cousin every route. Way too easy and slutty without any build up of character.
She is too slutty too soon. Dicks plow through her like a hot knife plows through butter.

Danny: Danny Boy~ The horny lad... Just a hornball not much else to say about him, but at least this sort of character is understandable. I guess he is fine... I mean it's understandable for young lad to be hornball, but he doesn't have any depth beside "I'm horny / pervert". It's not his fault he comes up against no resistance.

All of this leads to very bad pacing, and a complete lack of realism.

The plot if you can call it that has already be stamped with a "Mission Accomplished" at end of the first demo. You could literally slap a "Completed" tag on this right now, and call it a completed game already. There is nothing more to tell. The little cousin already fucked her in various ways in various locations. That is what everything was supposed to be building up to according to the opening dialogue. There is no more story to tell...

What's the continuation gonna be? The little cousin and Luh get married? Well they are already fucking what's the difference? How is marrying her gonna make a difference to anything?

A true waste of some beautiful visual art by combining it with some of the worst story telling I have ever seen. Nothing of value will be lost if you skip 100% of the dialogue.
 

oldstrong

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Just curious. How do you know this? Do you have a source?
Yout just need to check most of the games it's users interaction on forum, with femMC(obviously there are games that had femMC with tons of fans) and compare with games with maleMC.

Its kinda obvious that most of the players out there are man and prefer to play as man.

Or you want a paper published on Nature/Science for it?
 

clowns234

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Yout just need to check most of the games it's users interaction on forum, with femMC(obviously there are games that had femMC with tons of fans) and compare with games with maleMC.

Its kinda obvious that most of the players out there are man and prefer to play as man.

Or you want a paper published on Nature/Science for it?
I agree that most games are geared towards men. Not sure I would agree that most men instantly ignore a game simply because of a female protagonist tag. There are games out there that have that tag and do well.

BTW, as someone who is just getting into developing my own VN, I would find actual data interesting and helpful.
 

oldstrong

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I agree that most games are geared towards men. Not sure I would agree that most men instantly ignore a game simply because of a female protagonist tag. There are games out there that have that tag and do well.

BTW, as someone who is just getting into developing my own VN, I would find actual data interesting and helpful.
If you want a example easy to understand you just need to check Chloe 18 games on forum (3 with femMC and 1 with maleMC).

(MaleMC game is the newer)

Check from it's 4, which one has most interaction, reviews and overall rating.
From it's 4 game, which one do you think, took forum most interest?

(i'm not talking about the game quality as i never played any)
 

clowns234

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If you want a example easy to understand you just need to check Chloe 18 games on forum (3 with femMC and 1 with maleMC).

(MaleMC game is the newer)

Check from it's 4, which one has most interaction, reviews and overall rating.
From it's 4 game, which one do you think, took forum most interest?

(i'm not talking about the game quality as i never played any)
I'm addressing the claim that over half the people would instantly ignore games simply for having an FMC. I don't think the data is there to show that. We could debate further but it will probably end up being deleted, so maybe it's best to agree to disagree. :)
 

oldstrong

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I'm addressing the claim that over half the people would instantly ignore games simply for having an FMC. I don't think the data is there to show that. We could debate further but it will probably end up being deleted, so maybe it's best to agree to disagree. :)
I think you have a really bad reading problem, it's the second time you read things I didn't wrote.

I said MOST, not HALF.

And now we can finally end up discussion, I've just posted here because I found funny how people get triggered by a question. I'm not playing the game and I don't belong to it's discussion.

For the creator my best wishes.
 
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