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I'm just going to make a comment about the bisexuality of girls.
From my experience, there are several different things that are commonly confused:
A bisexual girl is one who likes to have sex with men or women, together or separately.
There are straight girls who would never sleep with a girl, but in the case of a threesome, they don't mind actively interacting with another girl.
A third group would be straight girls who, in the threesome, will not eat the other girl's pussy, but do not mind if they get eaten by the boy or the girl.

In Spain we have terminology for threesomes that I don't know if it is applicable in English:
Duplex is when the two girls devote themselves exclusively to the guy.
Lesbian threesome is when the girls interact with each other apart from the guy (I know it should be called bisexual threesome, but we Spanish are weird :cool: ).
We don't have a name for a threesome where only one girl interacts with the other (we need that name!).

In the game, there will be duplex, lesbian threesomes (optional), and unnamed threesomes (optional).
Most important thing I got from this was that there will be atleast 3 threesomes... ;) (y)
 
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Someone has asked me at Discord for the family tree of the main characters. Here it is in case it helps anyone to understand this crazy family.
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Clones... really? :ROFLMAO:

In the game, there will be duplex, lesbian threesomes (optional), and unnamed threesomes (optional).
I don't mind the duplex but would not want to walk into a "lesbian threesome" where the girls do stuff without the MC by accident thinking I was just getting the duplex going. If that makes sense. I let the two girls practice kissing, for example, with the expectation that the MC would still be the focus going forward; I hope that hasn't set the stage for walking into the wrong type of threesome.
 
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I shut down the kissing because I never want to see the girls with each other. Honestly being forced to watch them kiss (even poorly) was irritating. In pretty much every harem AVN the devs turn all the girls bi/lesbian. By lesbian I mean they are perfectly happy telling the MC to bugger off while they get it on. Oh but they really luv him of course! :rolleyes:

If the girls in a harem are in love and banging each other as well as the MC it is no longer a harem, it is a polyamorous relationship. I'm pretty much done with threesomes because it almost always ends up with the girls turning lesbian, especially in the larger harems. The higher the number of girls the more likely they end up with each other and the MC becomes the third wheel in their lesbian relationship.

Funny thing is I used to think lesbians were hot. It was how poorly bi/lesbians are implemented in AVNs that killed my interest in them. You play enough games and you start to notice things, and one noticed you can't unnotice them.
 

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Clones... really? :ROFLMAO:


I don't mind the duplex but would not want to walk into a "lesbian threesome" where the girls do stuff without the MC by accident thinking I was just getting the duplex going. If that makes sense. I let the two girls practice kissing, for example, with the expectation that the MC would still be the focus going forward; I hope that hasn't set the stage for walking into the wrong type of threesome.
The girls being clones are only in the non-patched version. If you played the intro (where you rename the characters), it says part of the family had a cloning company, but they died in a plane crash when the MC was 3 years old. Remember Patreon bans games if they have incest.

In v.0.4.5 (already published for Patrons) there's a choice that disables all the interactions between girls from then onwards. You won't walk into that kind of content if you don't want to. The only exceptions are Daphne and Scarlett practice-kissing (they are NOT lesbians) and an image of a wish on the part of one of the characters, not happening in reality.

A lesbian or unnamed threesome, with that choice checked, will become a duplex, as I won't show the images/animations of the girls interacting.
 
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I shut down the kissing because I never want to see the girls with each other. Honestly being forced to watch them kiss (even poorly) was irritating. In pretty much every harem AVN the devs turn all the girls bi/lesbian. By lesbian I mean they are perfectly happy telling the MC to bugger off while they get it on. Oh but they really luv him of course! :rolleyes:

If the girls in a harem are in love and banging each other as well as the MC it is no longer a harem, it is a polyamorous relationship. I'm pretty much done with threesomes because it almost always ends up with the girls turning lesbian, especially in the larger harems. The higher the number of girls the more likely they end up with each other and the MC becomes the third wheel in their lesbian relationship.

Funny thing is I used to think lesbians were hot. It was how poorly bi/lesbians are implemented in AVNs that killed my interest in them. You play enough games and you start to notice things, and one noticed you can't unnotice them.
The girls in this game won't interact with each other if the MC is not present. The MC is the center of the harem, and will be there, participating, every time a girl has sex.
As said in the post above:
In v.0.4.5 (already published for Patrons) there's a choice that disables all the interactions between girls from then onwards.
You won't see the girls having sex with each other (always with the MC present) if you don't want to. The only exceptions are Daphne and Scarlett practice-kissing (they are NOT lesbians) and an image of a wish on the part of one of the characters, not happening in reality.
I know some people don't like to see the kissing practice, so the game has the choice to not teach them together, but do it separately. You'll lose some scenes as if you've refused any girl.
As you say, it's a harem game, not a polyamorous game. And some players can see the girls having sex without the MC as NTR, even if both girls are in a relationship with him.
 
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MC looks like forty something after his haircut.

Also I'm worried about the soldier/girl on bike subplot. I normally don't mind some kind of bigger story behind the romances, whether it is some kind of crime/mafia stuff or some supernatural story, but I don't think this game needed that especially with introducing it this point in the game.
It's still early in the game but quite a lot happened already, introducing such a plotline at this stage means either the story will change into something different or this new element will be so minor that it wasn't necessary at all.
Any such plotline will take the focus away from the romances, at least I can't imagine that "practicing kisses" can stay stay high priority to any sane person while their lives are on the line.
Since the game description didn't have any hint of a dark conspiracy subplot, people might feel cheated if the game turns into something different after an hour gameplay.
Another thing I'm worried about are the incoming tenants. I just realized in this update that each house (MC's and his aunt's) will have 5 or 6 tenant previously I thought there will be 5-6 in total. In my opinion, over 10 additional girls, not to mention the side characters that were introduced is too much for the individual relationships to still stay meaningful in a harem game.
 

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MC looks like forty something after his haircut.

Also I'm worried about the soldier/girl on bike subplot. I normally don't mind some kind of bigger story behind the romances, whether it is some kind of crime/mafia stuff or some supernatural story, but I don't think this game needed that especially with introducing it this point in the game.
It's still early in the game but quite a lot happened already, introducing such a plotline at this stage means either the story will change into something different or this new element will be so minor that it wasn't necessary at all.
Any such plotline will take the focus away from the romances, at least I can't imagine that "practicing kisses" can stay stay high priority to any sane person while their lives are on the line.
Since the game description didn't have any hint of a dark conspiracy subplot, people might feel cheated if the game turns into something different after an hour gameplay.
Another thing I'm worried about are the incoming tenants. I just realized in this update that each house (MC's and his aunt's) will have 5 or 6 tenant previously I thought there will be 5-6 in total. In my opinion, over 10 additional girls, not to mention the side characters that were introduced is too much for the individual relationships to still stay meaningful in a harem game.
That subplot was introduced early on for those who played the intro (where the player can rename the characters). In fact, it's the first thing the player reads about.
The incoming tenants will come in two batches:
The girls at MC's house: 4 girls arrive on Friday (Day 11), we are on Sunday(6) right now and the game began on Tuesday (1), and another girl (the girl with the yellow room) will arrive later.
The 6 girls at Norah's house will arrive in two months
There is enough time to develop the individual relationships.
 

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I'm just going to make a comment about the bisexuality of girls.
From my experience, there are several different things that are commonly confused:
A bisexual girl is one who likes to have sex with men or women, together or separately.
There are straight girls who would never sleep with a girl, but in the case of a threesome, they don't mind actively interacting with another girl.
A third group would be straight girls who, in the threesome, will not eat the other girl's pussy, but do not mind if they get eaten by the boy or the girl.

In Spain we have terminology for threesomes that I don't know if it is applicable in English:
Duplex is when the two girls devote themselves exclusively to the guy.
Lesbian threesome is when the girls interact with each other apart from the guy (I know it should be called bisexual threesome, but we Spanish are weird :cool: ).
We don't have a name for a threesome where only one girl interacts with the other (we need that name!).

In the game, there will be duplex, lesbian threesomes (optional), and unnamed threesomes (optional).
I get what your saying some people view Bisexual in different ways. But if a girl does anything sexual to another girl it is bisexual i mean come on it's the same thing if your having a 3some with 2 dudes and 1 chick and the guy reaches down to suck a guy off or jerk him off or even kissing. Bisexual is bisexual no matter how you look at it. But yeah some people have different views. I have to disagree with you about any straight female would never agree to sexually interact with the other during a 3some unless they are Bi curious and then there you go that still will make the bisexual.
 

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I shut down the kissing because I never want to see the girls with each other. Honestly being forced to watch them kiss (even poorly) was irritating. In pretty much every harem AVN the devs turn all the girls bi/lesbian. By lesbian I mean they are perfectly happy telling the MC to bugger off while they get it on. Oh but they really luv him of course! :rolleyes:

If the girls in a harem are in love and banging each other as well as the MC it is no longer a harem, it is a polyamorous relationship. I'm pretty much done with threesomes because it almost always ends up with the girls turning lesbian, especially in the larger harems. The higher the number of girls the more likely they end up with each other and the MC becomes the third wheel in their lesbian relationship.

Funny thing is I used to think lesbians were hot. It was how poorly bi/lesbians are implemented in AVNs that killed my interest in them. You play enough games and you start to notice things, and one noticed you can't unnotice them.
Same. I hate to reference hentai but they do know how to do harem/ 3somes without women interacting with each other sexually. Bisexual is bisexual no matter how other people want to sugar coat it. and some people don't like to watch it. Some people don't like to see another male screwing there women but don't mind seeing other women screwing there women i don't get it your getting cucked either way. And in a 3some/4some i want to be the center of attention i want the women to focus on me and me alone. It might sound selfesh but that's the way a harem ought to be having a harem is selfish by itself anyway.
 

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Same. I hate to reference hentai but they do know how to do harem/ 3somes without women interacting with each other sexually. Bisexual is bisexual no matter how other people want to sugar coat it. and some people don't like to watch it. Some people don't like to see another male screwing there women but don't mind seeing other women screwing there women i don't get it your getting cucked either way. And in a 3some/4some i want to be the center of attention i want the women to focus on me and me alone. It might sound selfesh but that's the way a harem ought to be having a harem is selfish by itself anyway. I explained this to some one before and they said it's not fair to the women. What is the women supose to do while you screwing another woman lol it's not supose to be fair it's a harem lol to fullfil the MC needs. The point of a harem is fantasy for men not the women. They can make a female progtag game and have a reverse harem if they like lol.
 
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Okay this MC looks between 26-36 and the Milf's look about 28-38 and the younger girls look between 18-26.

Its very hard to understand the hair dresser saying MC could be the child of his aunt when she looks younger that he does.
MyDorm 2022-08-13 11-59-04-93.jpg MyDorm 2022-08-13 11-59-23-38.jpg or close to the same age anyway.
(MC looked even older with his longer hair.)

MC looks like someone who had to do hard labor just to survive and that is how people look like in the real world who has to do hard labor outside to survive.

ADD: And here she looks closer to 24 than 36+. MyDorm 2022-08-13 12-40-00-38.jpg

ADD: And he looks closer to 40 than 21. MyDorm 2022-08-13 13-27-03-92.jpg


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What is up with the sniper cliffhanger?

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For variety sake, the aunt could've been chubby like the intro, I would prefer her that way :p . Mom looks gorgeous, I love brunettes, although she looks young, more like an older sister than a mother of 2 18+ years old.

I don't know where the story is going, but we have quite a bit of girls already and there's more to come, so they will all be attracted to mc like a magnet?

Is always so weird how those gorgeous girls who can have any guy they want (including mom and aunt) they can't never find one and the one that finds he turned out to be a jerk. Then they all fall in love with the mc because... who knows and have to share him like he's the last guy on earth. IRL at least half of the ladies in the game would have boyfriends/husbands and most would not be willing to share her man with another woman, I understand that this is a porn game and it is a fantasy for most guys to have multiple woman at his feet, but I hope one day a dev breaks the norm and make a game with a bit more believability on that aspect, like not all girls need to be romanceable or they already have a heathy relationship with a partner or something like that, not all couples live a miserable life together:coffee:.

Sorry for my mini rant, I didn't mean to sound so negative:unsure:. As for the third paragraph, I was not aiming at TropecitaGames specifically since most games do that.

Can't wait for the next episode. Did I say how gorgeous mom look?
 
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The girls in this game won't interact with each other if the MC is not present. The MC is the center of the harem, and will be there, participating, every time a girl has sex.
As said in the post above:
In v.0.4.5 (already published for Patrons) there's a choice that disables all the interactions between girls from then onwards.
You won't see the girls having sex with each other (always with the MC present) if you don't want to. The only exceptions are Daphne and Scarlett practice-kissing (they are NOT lesbians) and an image of a wish on the part of one of the characters, not happening in reality.
I know some people don't like to see the kissing practice, so the game has the choice to not teach them together, but do it separately. You'll lose some scenes as if you've refused any girl.
As you say, it's a harem game, not a polyamorous game. And some players can see the girls having sex without the MC as NTR, even if both girls are in a relationship with him.
I like this approach, Im also tired of forced lesbian content by other creators, its good to know you take that into account when developing a game. The only think I'm a little dissatisfied with its that mc look too old. Maybe giving him a remake in his face from now on would be amazing. Oh I also liked the pubic hair, Im tired of people believing even milfs who don't have sex shave their vaginas all the time. I'm going to support you from now on in Patreon, keep the good work up!
 

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Lol, man the nitpicking in strong in here today. I guess that’s a sign that the game is pretty solid when the only grips are minor things like, “Main Character looks too old,” or, “Porn game uses porn-logic, why?” Or even, “Aunt is too hot.”

I’m not knocking anyone, just being factious, but it funny what the last few posts have been about. First world problems. :ROFLMAO:
 

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That subplot was introduced early on for those who played the intro (where the player can rename the characters). In fact, it's the first thing the player reads about.
The incoming tenants will come in two batches:
The girls at MC's house: 4 girls arrive on Friday (Day 11), we are on Sunday(6) right now and the game began on Tuesday (1), and another girl (the girl with the yellow room) will arrive later.
The 6 girls at Norah's house will arrive in two months
There is enough time to develop the individual relationships.
Yeah, I also forgot to mention the same thing. Right now the game is amazing and the relationships are really balanced. I think MC already has his hands full with his 5 family members plus Scarlett. I don't really like the indian fuck-buddie or the red-head ex girlfriend to be honest. I would prefer to keep the game balanced as if its now. Romance only shows itself when there is enough time for each girl. I know you can think you can make it work somehow but that would put too much burden on you each update until you cant keep with the same quality.
 

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Okay this MC looks between 26-36 and the Milf's look about 28-38 and the younger girls look between 18-26.

Its very hard to understand the hair dresser saying MC could be the child of his aunt when she looks younger that he does.
View attachment 1982800 View attachment 1982801 or close to the same age anyway.
(MC looked even older with his longer hair.)

MC looks like someone who had to do hard labor just to survive and that is how people look like in the real world who has to do hard labor outside to survive.

ADD: And here she looks closer to 24 than 36+. View attachment 1982814

ADD: And he looks closer to 40 than 21. View attachment 1982867


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Two things about the hairdresser:
She was hitting on him the whole time she was cutting his hair (much to Norah's annoyance) and now she's disappointed. Norah has a (false) reputation as a man-eater (due to envy) and the hairdresser likes to gossip. It's a way to make the hype even bigger by exaggerating it.
Hairdressers lie. My hairdresser tells me every time I go that I look great.

In the scene where you show the image of Norah, I have tried (as always) to make the expressions go with the conversation. In that image I was looking for a helpless look, and that rejuvenates her.
If you look at this image of the same conversation, she looks much older.
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I know that left-hand drive cars drive in the left lane (in Spain we also drive like that). But I was unable to match the car with the right lanes on the HDRI.

I answer you in private about the sniper. Read it at your own risk, because there will be spoilers.
 

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For variety sake, the aunt could've been chubby like the intro, I would prefer her that way :p . Mom looks gorgeous, I love brunettes, although she looks young, more like an older sister than a mother of 2 18+ years old.

I don't know where the story is going, but we have quite a bit of girls already and there's more to come, so they will all be attracted to mc like a magnet?

Is always so weird how those gorgeous girls who can have any guy they want (including mom and aunt) they can't never find one and the one that finds he turned out to be a jerk. Then they all fall in love with the mc because... who knows and have to share him like he's the last guy on earth. IRL at least half of the ladies in the game would have boyfriends/husbands and most would not be willing to share her man with another woman, I understand that this is a porn game and it is a fantasy for most guys to have multiple woman at his feet, but I hope one day a dev breaks the norm and make a game with a bit more believability on that aspect, like not all girls need to be romanceable or they already have a heathy relationship with a partner or something like that, not all couples live a miserable life together:coffee:.

Sorry for my mini rant, I didn't mean to sound so negative:unsure:. As for the third paragraph, I was not aiming at TropecitaGames specifically since most games do that.

Can't wait for the next episode. Did I say how gorgeous mom look?
There will be a chubby girl in the future, but for the plot I needed Norah to slim down. Remember that the MC was fat too until he went off to college, so that's another common ground between two characters who have gone through a lot of depression together due to low self-esteem. Now they can no longer have low self-esteem, although Norah, in her mind, is still a fat girl locked in the body of a porn actress.
Martha is meant to look 32-37. Younger than her actual 40, but still in the MILF category. Apparent age is subjective, I have a friend from Latvia who says that in his country, one day women are 39 and look like they are 20, and the next day they turn 40 and look like they are 70. For this guy to believe the look of a 40-year-old woman, I would have to design her with white hair and full of wrinkles.
About the girls who are attracted to the MC like a magnet, not every woman in town is attracted to him, but I don't bother to show the ones who are not. You can take the waitresses at Twins and the Cave Restaurant as an example. Women with healthy relationships, in love with other men, or not attracted to the MC is not that they don't exist, it's that they don't appear in the game. In a city of 20-30,000 inhabitants, less than 30 women will appear. There are more.
 
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I like this approach, Im also tired of forced lesbian content by other creators, its good to know you take that into account when developing a game. The only think I'm a little dissatisfied with its that mc look too old. Maybe giving him a remake in his face from now on would be amazing. Oh I also liked the pubic hair, Im tired of people believing even milfs who don't have sex shave their vaginas all the time. I'm going to support you from now on in Patreon, keep the good work up!
I believe that a game has to be fun, and that a game for adults has to fulfill the tastes and fantasies of the players. I think I have been honest from the beginning in saying what content would be in the game and what would not. But fetishes are different for each player, someone might get turned on by a lesbian scene and for someone else it might be a libido killer. That's why all content that is not pure vanilla will be optional.
About the MC, I'm not going to remake his look, as he is designed to look older than his age.
About pubic hair, almost all the girls in the game groom their pubes, but they do it for their comfort. Scarlett (who is a brunette) even dyes it.
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