Ren'Py My Early Life [Ep. 11] [CeLaVie Group]

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smokey5144

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On episode one, I've managed to trigger all events but "22:00 in TV room". I've tried just about everything I can think of, and this just won't trigger. I have chips, she's in a good mood, I've talked to her about everything she's willing to talk about and taken about a million pictures of her - swimming pool, panties, etc... But every night Lynn just takes the chips and goes to bed.

Anybody have some guidance here? Is there something I need to have done with her earlier the same day? A particular day of the week? Some other prerequisite I'm not thinking of? The tips for getting closer still says something about buying her clothes, is there something I'm supposed to with that?
 

gopherino

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No.

Sorry, if this dude has been making games for 6 years, you'd figure they'd know how to code stuff like an event system that's not as unhelpful as crap, showing events that are currently unavailable as able to be completed.

You'd think they'd know to make it obvious when progressing an event, be it through new dialogue, or by the event viewer telling you so.

You'd think they'd have dialogue explaining why a certain stat is important to train, and what exactly it does.

You'd think they'd have the good sense to listen to citique.

these ideas are not difficult to impliment into any game, in fact, most of them are available in any number of renpy games, even games from first time creators, so for someone with a claimed 6 years experience? Give over.

The creator is stubbornly digging their heels in, and refusing to polish blatantly clunky aspects of their game, purely cos some dude on the internet called their game clunky.

Also, irony is calling for someone to be humble on a thread where a creator goes "I'M NOT LISTENING TO YOU BECAUSE YOU WERE RUDE ABOUT MY GAME WAAAAH" and arrogantly points out that they're ignoring calls for polish out of spite.
Take a deep breath and cool down. We all here have the same goal, that of improving the games that CLVG produces. You seem to be an intelligent person and so you should be able to figure out some better ways of accomplishing that goal. Screeching is not one of them. It invokes a corresponding reaction, which means nothing gets improved. As I said, be humble.
The event system seems to have been invented by CLVG, or maybe they were just an early adopter of it from a game that has long disappeared; I wasn't around that many years ago. The hint system is virtually brand new, and you should be confident that it will be improved as CLVG gains some more experience with it. Same for the stats, they are new, too.
Perhaps you don't also appeciate what CLVG is trying to do with these games. They are supposed to be challenges, and therefore giving players all this information would eliminate the need to figure it out on their own. You have a good brain, and perhaps putting it to work on the challenges would be fun.
They certainly do listen to 'critique' as I have noticed they listen to things I and others say, not necessarily doing any of them, but at least listening. And they work their tails off getting updates monthly, as no other dev does, so they are necessarily quite busy without the leisure time to lengthily consider comments, especially repetitive ones. So please be kind -- I don't want them to get frustrated and slow down the production schedule -- the games are too enjoyable as is.
 

MRMIdAS2k

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you should be able to figure out some better ways of accomplishing that goal. Screeching is not one of them. It invokes a corresponding reaction, which means nothing gets improved. As I said, be humble.
Ah yes, because, of course, I'm the one posting
Your inputs are extremely valuable for me and I do my utmost to follow your advises ....NOT

Here is a little service information: Before you start yielding about my games - please read this on first page:
IF YOU WANT TO SCROLL THE PICTURES ONLY AND HATE GRIND - THIS GAME IS NOT FOR YOU.
IF YOU DON'T LIKE CHALLENGES - THIS GAME IS NOT FOR YOU.
BE PREPARED - EACH EPISODES TAKES MANY HOURS TO PLAY THROUGH .
BE PREPARED TO PLAY A GAME WHERE STRATEGY IS IMPORTANT - OTHERWISE YOU'LL NOT BE ABLE TO PLAY THROUGH THE GAME.
IN ORDER TO AVOID GRIND FOLLOW THE DIALOGS CAREFULLY AND FOLLOW THE GAME RULES.
THIS GAME HAS A LOT OF CHALLENGES SO PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO PLAY IT AS IT HAS TO BE PLAYED.
in block capitals and saying I'm gonna ignore feedback. I'm not the one screeching, the Dev is.

The event system seems to have been invented by CLVG, or maybe they were just an early adopter of it from a game that has long disappeared; I wasn't around that many years ago.
Mate, fuckin Cure My Addiction did it better, with a better hint/"walkthrough" system, and that started out in fuckin 2018.

The hint system is virtually brand new, and you should be confident that it will be improved as CLVG gains some more experience with it. Same for the stats, they are new, too.
They are poor and need polish. I'm aware that some stuff needs testing and stuff, but given the dev is
Your inputs are extremely valuable for me and I do my utmost to follow your advises ....NOT
So very open to feedback, I'd be amazed if any work gets done on either system.

Perhaps you don't also appeciate what CLVG is trying to do with these games. They are supposed to be challenges, and therefore giving players all this information would eliminate the need to figure it out on their own. You have a good brain, and perhaps putting it to work on the challenges would be fun.
Give over.
Repeating an event over and over and over and over with ZERO change or hint is not a "Challenge" or a "puzzle" it is BULLSHIT. Imagine how fucking slated OG Resident Evil 2 would be if you HAD to do the "Weskers Desk" easter egg to progress.

They certainly do listen to 'critique' as I have noticed they listen to things I and others say, not necessarily doing any of them, but at least listening.
Your inputs are extremely valuable for me and I do my utmost to follow your advises ....NOT
:unsure:

And they work their tails off getting updates monthly, as no other dev does, so they are necessarily quite busy without the leisure time to lengthily consider comments, especially repetitive ones. So please be kind -- I don't want them to get frustrated and slow down the production schedule -- the games are too enjoyable as is.
If you ain't the dev on an alt, then jesus christ you have issues. If my critique can slow development of updates, then I'll quite happily post here every day until the heat death of the universe, or til the game is decent, one or the other.
 
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thanks. i played through the first 3 episodes and really liked it. but the mindless clicking ended up being too much. even with the hints and cheat it was still pretty tedious to get certain bookmarks. i enjoyed my time with it though
For some of the episodes I just went ahead and skipped to the next chapter if the last handful of markers were feeling too onerous to achieve (I saved at that point in case I wanted to go back and wrestle with it later). That might have helped me avoid the feeling that the game was overly grindy because I wasn't getting too OCD with the last few unseen elements.

The mod that gives you a cash boost and the girls an arousal boost definitely helped top off the tank in chapter 7.

The only thing that really rubs me the wrong way about this game (which as I said before is one of the half dozen or so games I really look forward to seeing updates from) is that progression in some scenes that don't involve getting the girls to be more daring models basically involve giving them progressively larger sums of money.

Having the girls like you more because you are pulling your weight around the house and are able to give them gifts is one thing, and having the girls express their appreciation with some intimacy/affection is another, but some of the interactions feel pretty close to paying for sex. Maybe that's just me.
 
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skipaway

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Repeating an event over and over and over and over with ZERO change or hint is not a "Challenge" or a "puzzle" it is BULLSHIT. .
Isn't this kind of typical for many Japanese games? I think it's just a taste issue. I think you just haven't played enough variety of games and are not aware of the vast difference in taste people have.
 
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Goeroebo

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When I try to play episode 7, I can play the first day but when I sleep, I wake up at 6:50 and I can't do anytghing, I'm alone in the house. Anyone got a fix for this?
 
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MRMIdAS2k

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Isn't this kind of typical for many Japanese games? I think it's just a taste issue. I think you just haven't played enough variety of games and are not aware of the vast difference in taste people have.
No.

I've played plenty of Japanese games, and while yes, SOME sidequests, easter eggs, or NON MANDATORY content can be hidden behind obscure or not clear mechanics, from the afformentioned Wesker desk, to that one quest in FF9 that took people YEARS to find, THIS is LITERALLY hiding progress in the main quest of the game behind these mechanics. It's not like someone goes "Oh, that was obscure, I missed that on my first run through" it's literally "Oh, the ENTIRE GODDAMN GAME is hidden behind these mechanics".
 
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When I try to play episode 7, I can play the first day but when I sleep, I wake up at 6:50 and I can't do anytghing, I'm alone in the house. Anyone got a fix for this?

The same thing happens to me as you, I can't find anyone, at any time of the day, even if I skip the day, this is my save.
 

MRMIdAS2k

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The same thing happens to me as you, I can't find anyone, at any time of the day, even if I skip the day, this is my save.
You forgot to finger your asshole on Day 1, did you not get the hint? it's obscure, you'd only understand it if you played Japanese games.....

Yes I'm taking the piss. you're stuck because the game is badly coded and shit. wave to the fans, you're about to be ignored because you pointed out a flaw in glorious leaders game, you're not allowed to do that.
 

Celaviegroup

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You forgot to finger your asshole on Day 1, did you not get the hint? it's obscure, you'd only understand it if you played Japanese games.....

Yes I'm taking the piss. you're stuck because the game is badly coded and shit. wave to the fans, you're about to be ignored because you pointed out a flaw in glorious leaders game, you're not allowed to do that.
Hmm - or it might be related to the cheats....
 

Celaviegroup

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I finnished the game going through 1 or 2 minor confusions. As developer said a millon times, it is not really difficult to make progress if you pay attention to what the girls tell you in every conversation.

But I really think it may work better for all of us if in the event list is displayed, for every remaining event a small list of things we must reach to get it, or at least some clues or suggestions.
I mean, beside places and hours, for example, previous events connected to this, or items, or girls mood needed.
An example: I couldn't make progress with "tv room at 20:00" and tried been there the whole week. And all that was because I didn't read all the conversation at dinner time. I ended searching here in the forum what other players did about it.
Game is great, story is great, girls are gorgeous.
Thanks a lot - the hint system is in progress and will be improved from episode to episode
 

Celaviegroup

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Hi all
When I briefly go through the last messages here I can see that some complaints about bugs.
First of all the game is not bug free and I doubt that I'll never be able to make it bug free as the game is huge with endless numbers of combinations and I'm not able to test all of them.
In order to get as less buggy version as possible please make sure to play the full episode with the public version from the end of episode 6. If you have played some part of episode 7 with the leaked version you'll for sure run into problems.
I have not made the cheat so I can't/ will guarantee that it doesn't have any effect on the game. Please be aware that the cheat that is floating around here is made for the leaked version. If you want to avoid bugs you need to be careful.
Have a great day out there
 
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Chapter 3
Was looking up event 50, seems its dependent on event[36].progress but its impossible to progress looking at this code...
View attachment 3400066


event[36].progress=14 will enter the " if EVENTS[36].Progress >= 13:" condition first then exit, thus all the code below is unreachable.
Going back, the babydoll and progress get set to 13 together so its impossible to reach the code to get event 50 done.

Simplest correction I can think it it should have been
EVENTS[36].Progress == 13:
EVENTS[36].Progress == 14:
else
$ EVENTS[50].SetDone() since we can raise progress to 15
Thanks a lot - fixed in next update.
 

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The walkthrough and the saves are not (yet) in the new update. Will this still be made available? :unsure:
 

skipaway

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No.

I've played plenty of Japanese games, and while yes, SOME sidequests, easter eggs, or NON MANDATORY content can be hidden behind obscure or not clear mechanics, from the afformentioned Wesker desk, to that one quest in FF9 that took people YEARS to find, THIS is LITERALLY hiding progress in the main quest of the game behind these mechanics. It's not like someone goes "Oh, that was obscure, I missed that on my first run through" it's literally "Oh, the ENTIRE GODDAMN GAME is hidden behind these mechanics".
Actually quite a lot of porn games on DLSite have nothing but repetitive and obscure mechanics. People are just more used to it and understand they are not buying studio games. Some people just outright like that, therefore so many of them on DLSite. I think you are just annoyed that this specific game has elements you like and the elements you are not used to are getting in the way. I don't think you'd be so emotional about other games with worst mechanisms simply because they don't have elements you like as much.

I think your complain is kind of like how some people got pissed with tattoos on glamour girl porn.
 
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MRMIdAS2k

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Actually quite a lot of porn games on DLSite have nothing but repetitive and obscure mechanics. People are just more used to it and understand they are not buying studio games. Some people just outright like that, therefore so many of them on DLSite. I think you are just annoyed that this specific game has elements you like and the elements you are not used to are getting in the way. I don't think you'd be so emotional about other games with worst mechanisms simply because they don't have elements you like as much.

I think your complain is kind of like how some people got pissed with tattoos on glamour girl porn.
"Lots of crap porn games do a thing so you shouldn't call a thing crap" is not quite the world beating argument you think it is mate.

Once again, because repeating things seems to be a thing of yours. REPEATING EVENTS IS NOT MY ISSUE. READ AGAIN. NOT. MY. ISSUE.

REPEATING EVENTS WITH NO HINT OF PROGRESS IS MY ISSUE. NO. HINT. OF. PROGRESS.

WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO DRAW THIS IN CRAYON FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND IT?
 

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"Lots of crap porn games do a thing so you shouldn't call a thing crap" is not quite the world beating argument you think it is mate.

Once again, because repeating things seems to be a thing of yours. REPEATING EVENTS IS NOT MY ISSUE. READ AGAIN. NOT. MY. ISSUE.

REPEATING EVENTS WITH NO HINT OF PROGRESS IS MY ISSUE. NO. HINT. OF. PROGRESS.

WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO DRAW THIS IN CRAYON FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND IT?
Some people do like hints, other don`t there is a whole genre of games out there that are build around NO HINTS.

If you can imagine it or not some people actually prefer to figuring out some stuff on their own.

You clearly don`t which is fine!
but how can you be so ignorant and arrogant to make it a problem if it`s the other way around?

You sound like a big Karen here.

Anyways, I can only tell you to stop crying if things don`t go your way.

It`s annoying like your writing style all in caps.

Now take from that what ever you can or like but you better get used to it. Because that`s how it is, some games are not meant for your kind of audience. Your bitching about it won`t change a thing.
 
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