Ren'Py My Early Life [Ep. 12] [CeLaVie Group]

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Ahchi

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Its not like the banned person can again join as another silver member with a fake id. is it?
It will have to be full fake ID,
with a new means of payment NOT linked to the old ID ,
i.e. A new (permanent) credit card tried to another Address, Not so easy to get/create these days.
 

Epicuren

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Hi all
When I briefly go through the last messages here I can see that some complaints about bugs.
First of all the game is not bug free and I doubt that I'll never be able to make it bug free as the game is huge with endless numbers of combinations and I'm not able to test all of them.
Someone else mentioned it, and I tend to agree that it appears your testers are not very good. I understand missing some obscure bugs (event X dependent on event Y, etc.) but way too many obvious bugs are missed. I'm a paid subscriber and only play the versions you send me directly. Just a couple examples.
1. In episode 9 there is a scene that makes no sense based on something that happened in 8. Hard to miss if you're reading all the text as you tell us to do.
2. I don't like your automatic page changes, one reason being that in 9 as well as earlier episodes have seen scenes where the page jumps happen with no delay. Again hard to miss.
 

dffdfsdfsdf

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What's all the hate about, I like the game. And sure the grind for the arousal wasnt fun + it wasn't clear if it was necessary for an event, or that you just missed a different event. But if he fixed/changed those things in the next episode, I don't see why everyone is so fussed. The art is good, the story is okay, there are alot of events. I personally like that there's no branching. It makes it feel like a simple visual novel, but without the tedium of just holding ctrl and watching the events.
 

MickeyRat

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Episode 7 74/77 0830 Eves Room What is the trigger? Also trigger for final 2000 TV room?

Any help will be appreciated.
 

Jack_Smythe

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dunno if you found your answer, but good luck, I didn't get mine.
It's a progression game. There will be sex...eventually. the length of the "foreplay" is up to the Dev.

We have cunninglingus and felatio. I have a feeling full on harem will be ep10. Ep9 may be side chick filler with Jenny and the other girls that run the shops.

But there will.be sex. This dev does actually complete games.
 

Jack_Smythe

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And they strip you of money every day.... I don't want to give ideas, but surely this is a hint to add a store with "loot boxes" of coins. I already believe everything when I see the diamond membership. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
Don't even jest! You will bring the evil spirit of EA Sports down upon this forum!
 
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And they strip you of money every day.... I don't want to give ideas, but surely this is a hint to add a store with "loot boxes" of coins. I already believe everything when I see the diamond membership. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
Aha yeah, dont joke.

I get that it's here to help pace progression, but personally,I already dont like all the payments. Using some cash for coercion sometimes is a usefu ldevice, but right now it just feels like prostitution. I like the other CLV games better where there were gifts, but MC remains in control, not just a cash cow
 
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Aha yeah, dont joke.

I get that it's here to help pace progression, but personally,I already dont like all the payments. Using some cash for coercion sometimes is a usefu ldevice, but right now it just feels like prostitution. I like the other CLV games better where there were gifts, but MC remains in control, not just a cash cow
Thank you for articulating exactly what it was that's been bothering me about the current game (which I still really like overall). It's the issue of control/agency, and I'm grateful to see it articulated to where the light bulb went off over my head.

Although some of it is contrived to the point of being porn cliche (I am learning massage therapy . . . okay), the "self defense" lessons and gambling with a loaded die are things the MC does to manipulate the game forward, and so there's at least a veneer of cleverness to the actions with the MC retaining a role of master of puppets.

That said, the straight up exchange of money to move the plot forward (especially if it's some kind of sexual progression) basically turns the LIs into prostitutes and the MC into a john. It hasn't been sitting right with me and I appreciate you making what should have been obvious to me so crystal clear.
 
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Celaviegroup

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Someone else mentioned it, and I tend to agree that it appears your testers are not very good. I understand missing some obscure bugs (event X dependent on event Y, etc.) but way too many obvious bugs are missed. I'm a paid subscriber and only play the versions you send me directly. Just a couple examples.
1. In episode 9 there is a scene that makes no sense based on something that happened in 8. Hard to miss if you're reading all the text as you tell us to do.
2. I don't like your automatic page changes, one reason being that in 9 as well as earlier episodes have seen scenes where the page jumps happen with no delay. Again hard to miss.
First of all - thanks for your support. I really apreciate it and my supporters are the reason why I'm able to make these games.
As a supporter please contact me directly on Patreon or Discord. Concerning my alpha team - please be aware that they only have the gamefor 48 hours. Within these 48 hours they need to test several releases and proof read the game. Sometimes I'm forced to make changes that are nottested before the very first release. My team and I do our utmost to maintain each episode in the time between each releases. Please keep in mind that I make new releases every month with a huge amount of contents and most of the time with new functions in the engine too. Everything takes time. Please do not blame my alpha team but me as I decide when the game is ready to be released.
Have a great day
 
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dbala81

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It will have to be full fake ID,
with a new means of payment NOT linked to the old ID ,
i.e. A new (permanent) credit card tried to another Address, Not so easy to get/create these days.
What are you saying dude. He is just a member of the patreon site. Doesn't own the site. He cannot verify if two accounts use the same card or same address.

Or are you saying we cannot create two account with same card in patreon.
 

Ahchi

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What are you saying dude. He is just a member of the patreon site. Doesn't own the site. He cannot verify if two accounts use the same card or same address.

Or are you saying we cannot create two account with same card in patreon.
There can/have Banned the "Card" as well as the Person.
When you ban a Card you not only ban the "Number",
but also other Information that is normally used to Verify the transaction.
This can include the address,
 

Celaviegroup

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What are you saying dude. He is just a member of the patreon site. Doesn't own the site. He cannot verify if two accounts use the same card or same address.

Or are you saying we cannot create two account with same card in patreon.
Why are you so keen to destroy my games? If you really are so keen to get my game some weeks before it gets public, why don't you sign up? As public player (version) you have a much better chance that most of the bugs have been fixed and you'll get the game with exact same time interval as the diamond member - just some weeks later. By leaking the game you'll probably get a more buggy version with no support and the risk that I'm forced to stop because I can't afford to make these games are much higher. In case I didn't offer a public release I would have had a better understanding of your behaviour but as long as I offer public versions I have absolutely no respect for such destroying behaviour..... and by blocking a supporter will also block his credit card.
 

dbala81

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Why are you so keen to destroy my games? If you really are so keen to get my game some weeks before it gets public, why don't you sign up? As public player (version) you have a much better chance that most of the bugs have been fixed and you'll get the game with exact same time interval as the diamond member - just some weeks later. By leaking the game you'll probably get a more buggy version with no support and the risk that I'm forced to stop because I can't afford to make these games are much higher. In case I didn't offer a public release I would have had a better understanding of your behaviour but as long as I offer public versions I have absolutely no respect for such destroying behaviour..... and by blocking a supporter will also block his credit card.
Cool dude. I can wait for a public version. What i'm saying is, people not releasing because they afraid of getting banned is a myth. No one release something which they paid for, unless if they enjoyed it and want to share or maybe they didnt enjoy it.
 
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J_M

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Why are you so keen to destroy my games? If you really are so keen to get my game some weeks before it gets public, why don't you sign up? As public player (version) you have a much better chance that most of the bugs have been fixed and you'll get the game with exact same time interval as the diamond member - just some weeks later. By leaking the game you'll probably get a more buggy version with no support and the risk that I'm forced to stop because I can't afford to make these games are much higher. In case I didn't offer a public release I would have had a better understanding of your behaviour but as long as I offer public versions I have absolutely no respect for such destroying behaviour..... and by blocking a supporter will also block his credit card.
Nobody is "destroying" your game. Worst case scenario is just a reduction on the number your paying supporters - less cash for you.

But again, I don't think your supporters are paying for the early release - in other words for the "privilege" of being the alpha testers of your.. ok, let's call this, game - I think they simply like your work and want to see the end of the story. In this case, your income will remain consistent as long as you provide them with regular updates and the whatever else you promised them in terms of content.

I am not to getting a side in this, content leaking story, in fact I don't care at all about that, it's your dramatic attitude that made me replying to your post.
 

Xenix22

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- The English in Episode 8 was significantly more polished than previous releases. I don't recall any major noticeable typos like the "foot" for "food" in Episode 7. There were still some clunker unnatural sounding dialogue here and there, but overall most of it flowed closer to English than previous chapters from what I can recall.

- There were still the lazy dialogue mistakes, for instance copy pasting the dialogue from the morning of Lynn repeatedly saying she is making "Breakfast" at 19:30 in the kitchen when she is normally washing dishes after dinner. Seriously? How does shit like this get missed by testers? And it would take literally 5 seconds to fix it...

- Also on the good side, progress is definitely made with the girls. Plenty of hot scenes and good renders. I don't recall seeing any clipping issues this time.

- Event progression seemed backwards some of the time.
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- Once again there are mislabeled events in the guide. For example Lynn's 8:00 Bathroom scene at some point drops off and gets incorrectly labeled as being the 10:30 Kitchen event
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- What's up with the "This is an error" at 21:00 in Lynn's room. I assume it's because she has no event scheduled at that time, but then why not either give her a "get out" scene like Eve, have a locked door sequence, or put her out somewhere?

- There is an event at 22:30 where Lina and Lynn both appear in Lynn's room but neither of their room indicators is shown on that room... And in fact Lina is shown to be in the TV Room at the same time (and she actually is available for event there at the same time)? This kind of thing makes the game impossible without using the guide to tell you where you need to be, which I dunno if that is intentional?

- I don't understand the available/unavailable events system. For example take grocery events 14:30 and 15:30. Both always appear as available, however from playing the game you find out in fact that you can't trigger the 15:30 without first triggering the 14:30 first? So that means 15:30 is showing at times it should be unavailable? Pretty sure there were more dependent events like this where multiple steps show as available when only one step at a time is? Makes it harder to follow the guide IMHO.

Events go from unavailable to just gone far too often. The biggest one I noticed though was the end of the game. You end up with everything done except just 2 unavailable events left. No hints at all that you have to watch a movie with Lynn one last time to trigger the end. And then you get a black screen for end of episode....but the sleep icon is still there and you have to hit that to then get the actual final end of episode screen again. Doh!

- What's up with "Read about Self Defence" still being in the menu? I mean looking at the code it doesn't look like "self_defence" is an actual stat anymore...hence why there is no progress bar? So reading about self defense doesn't increase a variable and literally does nothing? I actually didn't look at the code before doing my first playthough so I dunno how many times I wasted my time "reading" instead of "studying" or "texting" thinking it could be a requirement to trigger the next lesson. Not cool...

- I think I saw this in Episode 7 too, but once again Lina was referred to as being the younger that Lynn? (Lynn referred to Lina as her little sis during the game) Previously it's been stated that Lynn is 18, Lina is 19 in earlier chapters. That also matches with the Bio information that gives their ages and states Lynn is the youngest.. (Although I'm also not sure why the Bio indicates Bob is older than Eve when he has refered to her as his big sister several times and she's also called him little brother once?)

- What possible logic is there to kissing Winnie resetting your progress in that event to the beginning? I mean it would be one thing if she at least showed visible agitation or something and shot your ass down. But no she seems to like it but it still prevents/resets your progress?
 
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steelsmiter

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It's a progression game. There will be sex...eventually. the length of the "foreplay" is up to the Dev.

We have cunninglingus and felatio. I have a feeling full on harem will be ep10. Ep9 may be side chick filler with Jenny and the other girls that run the shops.

But there will.be sex. This dev does actually complete games.
You answered the wrong person. Mine was whether that stupid quotations/arguments about relations bullshit would go away at some point.
 
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