poipoi

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Can anyone explain how the fuck you play this game? It just goes back to the main menu after you follow the WT, you can't progress anywhere.

After completing a chapter you should see the next one after it comes back to the title screen.
 

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I heard there is hypnosis of some kind in the game. Can anyone confirm?
None of it, but it has some psychological manipulation.
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was she though? or was she more not mentally strong?
I want to discuss this. Would she, from the blackmail, eventually show a break, or completely break. It could be refused to do anymore, or straight up tell her husband everything. A mental break somewhere
Then, I like that there is a bit (A small bit, that my mind inflates-) affection between her and the blackmailer. However, the Author does nothing with it, it just becomes "She becomes LEWDER" Like the scene on MC's Computer, she is Fucking the guy next to him saying "I can't believe you are making me cheat" BITCH you have been doing that FOR MONTHS. EIGHT MONTHS> .....and then its her having orgasms.
 

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I dont like this kind of games that u need to find a route, game over, start over find a new route, game over and repeat.
quite annoying. why not just a normal vn with choices and thats it.
also, it seems to be focused on cheating and mc allowing it to happen. not my cup of tea.
 

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I want to discuss this. Would she, from the blackmail, eventually show a break, or completely break. It could be refused to do anymore, or straight up tell her husband everything. A mental break somewhere
Then, I like that there is a bit (A small bit, that my mind inflates-) affection between her and the blackmailer. However, the Author does nothing with it, it just becomes "She becomes LEWDER" Like the scene on MC's Computer, she is Fucking the guy next to him saying "I can't believe you are making me cheat" BITCH you have been doing that FOR MONTHS. EIGHT MONTHS> .....and then its her having orgasms.
These kind of games wouldn't exist if people in them acted logically, husbands not doing anything to stop it when they find out, wives not telling their husbands from the start.
I mean it makes no sense most of the time. Which is why most NTR is shit. At least when it's written like this, Blackmail NTR is the lowest effort story wise if you think about it.
The female characters are almost always very poorly written.
It is what it is really, but NTR shouldn't ever happen because of stuff like in this game. Doing that to someone is vile, so you can't love them if you do. It doesn't work that way. IF you love your partner you will never do what this girl did in this game. You just don't. The second ending when the MC grills her, you can tell how little thought she had given her situation, her thought process was, as long as my husband never finds out it's fine.
meanwhile she fucked the guy over 100 times in a period over 4 years. After the first time she should have stopped. She was raped. her Husband wouldn't have left her for that I'm pretty sure. I mean most people wouldn't.
It's a lesson for everyone who gets blackmailed, if they ask you to do something for them, you will just give them more to blackmail you with. It will never stop until you stop it yourself.
What do you think is worse, her husband finding out she was raped and now the guy is attempting to blackmail her with it.
Or finding out she fucked him over a 100 times for years.
What's worse?
That's why I say these games don't make sense and the NTR in them is shit.
 

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Generally I agree, it's not realistic at all. But it's a matter of suspension of disbelief, if you can overlook that part you can enjoy the rest. And as you've said, if the writers didn't use such devices the genre wouldn't exist.
 

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These kind of games wouldn't exist if people in them acted logically, husbands not doing anything to stop it when they find out, wives not telling their husbands from the start.
Are you sure already finished all the route?
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I dont like this kind of games that u need to find a route, game over, start over find a new route, game over and repeat.
quite annoying. why not just a normal vn with choices and thats it.
also, it seems to be focused on cheating and mc allowing it to happen. not my cup of tea.
LOL i remember the first time playing this game without walkthrough. One of the annoying part of this game was you need a walktrough or you got bad ending that need to play from previous part. Luckily it only happened in part 2. But this ruin the pacing for me. Fortunately for Japanese speaker , the hints was hard to miss. But for non-speaker it was pain in the butt. The secret ending also need you to playing previous part after finishing one story part.

tl:dr without walktrough, completing this game is pretty hard.
 
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Generally I agree, it's not realistic at all. But it's a matter of suspension of disbelief, if you can overlook that part you can enjoy the rest. And as you've said, if the writers didn't use such devices the genre wouldn't exist.
Speaking of not realistic . I find the fin 1 route is the most non-sense route of all routes in this game. But the ero scenes from this route was the best haha. But i really can't stand Shiobara guy, dude is creepy as hell. But i only accept Shiobara manipulation to Masashi could works just because he was not in mentally stable , and shock after Misaki cheating. His manipulation to Misaki that looks awkward, but he use Masashi as proxy, so... kinda works i think? Fin1 route could works better if they didn't do time skip six month later. But i think the writer acknowledge this part is awkward and more focusing Misaki with Kurokawa . (Also what happened with Aida on this route!?!?!?)
 

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I would prefer the series "Maro no Kanja wa Gatenkei" :rolleyes: but of course I will be happy with anything ;-)
Sorry, I won't be doing this one. But maybe somebody else will pick it up, I've posted my tool in the translation thread so almost no technical knowledge is required to translate:

Unless you can settle for DeepL MTL, then I can do it pretty quickly.
 
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For those who don't know—this is a legendary game among netorare fans. It's not just porn, but a plot-heavy game that will require some serious investment (it's 20+ hours of reading). If you're not prepared, it will crush your soul and perhaps awaken something dark inside it.

You were warned.
 

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Sorry, I won't be doing this one. But maybe somebody else will pick it up, I've posted my tool in the translation thread so almost no technical knowledge is required to translate:

Unless you can settle for DeepL MTL, then I can do it pretty quickly.
Nah, it's ok - for now trying to avoid MTL because I have so many games on my hard drive that I don't have the time to play them all, and besides, this space is starting to run out and I prefer to leave it for full translations. ;-)
 

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Ah yes! Gatenkei translated at last.
Great day.
the japanese would need to get over their NTR fetish first or develop a taste and masculinity to entertain the idea then the product.
afaik there's only a single yaoi vn that has revenge for ntr as the plot.
Look up on the ntr vns by lilim darkness.
They always have revenge option, and in gruesome ways.
Too bad all are untranslated.
 
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