Include a gratuitous scene that might not fit completely with the main story?


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JoeBlogs

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I think and I imagine an scenario where hutch and Vivian remain together but he would know that she would still cheat on him and she will know that she can't not stop and they would live like nothing would ever happen. As example
Yeah, my fear is this is what's going to happen. Just a massive rug sweep, with both of them still not talking about events and not admitting to anything that has happened even though they both know. A big don't ask - don't tell living arrangement. This would suck donkey ass as an ending.

Did another go at the backyard and bedroom scene to see if i could spot any clues since Dev said his whole story started 1st at backyard and bedroom scene and then he created the ending. I noticed this little frame although it may seem like it's just him heading back to the living room could it also mean he was starting at the knife on the counter? Perhaps a little premonition to the ending?...
Interesting... kind of links up to my dark ending scenario I posted previously.
 
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Is this the post you are referring to? It says here that the ending will definitely be surprising, but nothing about it being overly dark. Maybe It's mentioned in another post?

To address the issue of the 'unseen' seduction of the female lead by the antagonist, it was obviously intentional to leave you wondering what happened. Why could just a devote wife succumb so quickly, so easily? Did he really just threaten his job? Is she just a slut who drops panties for any alpha male? Others are just disappointed they didn't get to see a sexy scene. There is lots of story left and these are addressed in time.

Just a little background, the entire story arc is defined and the whole script is complete save for some polish. I do not like epically long stories with a sudden weak, rushed ending that doesn't do the rest of the game justice. The ending is fantastic in my mind, will make half of you happy, will make half of you pissed off, but will surprise everyone. It's just a matter of about 20k more renders to complete so bear with me.

This is also my second game but I've yet to publish the first (called Standing Guard). It is complete except for one scene I just can't seem to make myself finish. It is much shorter(about 1.5-2hrs total if you actually read the dialog). It's also a romance (no NTR). MHB is more polished because of the learning curve on my first game(it's a lot rougher in every measure). I'll publish it some day.

I want to thank all the reviewers and the kind remarks so far.

Thank you.
 

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Dark Finale, quiet, Hutch kills himself after being mocked by the city, his colleagues and his wife with Chris, the aim of the game, humiliate him, humiliate him, to make him commit suicide.
My ending is a bit darker, I agree that Hutch will top himself, and Christian will provide support to Viv and get her warmed up by fingering both holes under a dress he has provided. Someone mentioned a gangbang and rape tag and these will both happen on Hutch’s grave after the service after the aforementioned warm up. Incoming critique from all is welcome and I know some of you will be shocked that someone could envision this plot end. Cheers btw it is just a theory because there is a render in the game of a male and female at a cemetery with ladies leg raised as if she is kissing the male. I know I have drawn a disturbing scenario but Christian is about control, humiliation and eventually degradation.
 

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If the official v0.4 update is coming in 4 months, it would be great if the developer released a patch for the no sound bug now :love:
 

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If the official v0.4 update is coming in 4 months, it would be great if the developer released a patch for the no sound bug now :love:
You might be right about the 0.4. The 0.2 version was about 5k images, and then in another post he goes all that's needed is another 20k images. So, in the future, he might aim to do 0.2 jumps, and there'll be four more.

But, if that is the case, it means that we could expect to play through 6 days of content each time the game is updated. That that would be great. I love playing through that amount of content.
 

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You might be right about the 0.4. The 0.2 version was about 5k images, and then in another post he goes all that's needed is another 20k images. So, in the future, he might aim to do 0.2 jumps, and there'll be four more.

But, if that is the case, it means that we could expect to play through 6 days of content each time the game is updated. That that would be great. I love playing through that amount of content.
But let's say that each update will last 4 month each will finish this game next year or end of the next year of we are lucky.
 

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But let's say that each update will last 4 month each will finish this game next year or end of the next year of we are lucky.
Yeah, I get what you're saying. But, two years for a project is still great. If the schedule is maintained, and there aren't any long breaks from it, or unforseen holdups, I'd love updates to my favorite game like that.

I wouldn't be opposed to seeing 0.1 updates though. But, in terms of what it takes to finish, I wouldn't think 2 years is that bad.

Edit: Oh, and if you take those headings in the game files someone found, there are four of them, so that would coincide for four theme-based updates. But, that's just how it is now. There' s no telling how things might change.
 

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My ending is a bit darker, I agree that Hutch will top himself, and Christian will provide support to Viv and get her warmed up by fingering both holes under a dress he has provided. Someone mentioned a gangbang and rape tag and these will both happen on Hutch’s grave after the service after the aforementioned warm up. Incoming critique from all is welcome and I know some of you will be shocked that someone could envision this plot end. Cheers btw it is just a theory because there is a render in the game of a male and female at a cemetery with ladies leg raised as if she is kissing the male. I know I have drawn a disturbing scenario but Christian is about control, humiliation and eventually degradation.
I also have a scenario for a better ending because I do cheer for the underdog - it is Christian's funeral, after all the GB and rape stuff, Viv is kissing Hutch her Saviour and all the jilted husbands gather around Christians' grave and proceed to piss on it.
 

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Still think it's going to come down to Hutch protecting Vivian if it is emotionally or physically. In the end he loves his wife. Just another theory amongst hundreds.
 

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Still think it's going to come down to Hutch protecting Vivian if it is emotionally or physically. In the end he loves his wife. Just another theory amongst hundreds.
The big surprise would be if she ends with the black guy who wants to ride "her car" when you know what I mean ride her and pregnancy.
that's what I call a big surprise
 

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Yeah, I had taken special note of this too, that Hutch almost interceded when he heard Vivian say to let her go...but then Christian said he wasn't done yet and roughly pulled her back in, which Vivian played right into by enjoying it, much to Christian's satisfaction and ego. This is another reason that makes me feel Vivian is acting like a fool. By succumbing to Christian in this instance, she is rewarding his use of physical force to continue sex. Maybe she has rape fantasies?
i think she has an office sex fantasy or public sex with risk of getting caught and maybe will see some or atleast in her dream, something like this
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or while shes talking to hubby on the phone christian doesnt stop plowing her
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and if she goes on a limo ride with some clients
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)What if the MC planned this whole thing with Vivien and Addison. There was only one thing they were not aware of, how much mental pain MC and Vivien were causing each other. I think this can also be a surprise at the end, since we don't know anything about the couple's life, except that they have been married for 22 years and have a child together who is going to university. Addison's look is also telling when she looks at Mc and seems too protective. Together, they want to destroy Christ and acquire the company. Chris has a lot going on, he's ruined families. It could be stupid, my brain is just clicking.
 
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Wining and dining clients are eligible tactics when you wanna "charm" a client, meaning it's very hard to get. Most seen in cases the client got so many choices : choice of an attorney, investment banker, etc.
exactly what my thoughts.
Something tells me its going to be Vivian who will want to return to marriage. Hutch is going to shut it down and give her a full recap of her escapades, as well as why he allowed her to do what she wanted to do. He'll most likely tell her he gave her a pass for his boss, he did not expect her to take this opportunity to fuck the town. Also he will blow up her spot about her doing something with the guys at her sons school and embarrassed her son now he wants to transfer schools because he is being bullied and harrased about how much to fuck your mom. She will lose her job because pictures will show up of her. Hutch and his son will move away to get some distance. Addison will not be with Hutch.
this is a dark path for vivian not hutch so it can be considered dark in a way that the dev describes as having a bad ending.since she is the 1st of the 2 protagonists in the vn.
We don't know that Hutch has never lost clients before.
we know that hutch has a stable marriage without any problems for 22 years so we can speculate that he was quite good until now.
Her husband has been doing this for 6 years, so he must have been good at sales ( espcially considering the first times he has lost clients ,his job is in jeopardy)
in relation to my above point. hutch worked for christian for 6 years. and in the open part of the vn see the animations and the corresponding script. the dev is clearly showing the hutch was sure of his clients. and we may know later on about where hutch might have worked in future updates ... hence my theory is that its not hutch's fault but christian trying to find a scapegoat which happens to be hutch since christian is a manipulator and has got all he can from hutch. in context of 6 years working with hutch christian never knew about vivian so he was sure he would be able to let hutch and getaway clean from his screwup.
Wining and dining and trying to charm a prospective client is no less important when there are just two options available than when there are dozens. In fact, it's probably more important when the options are limited.
people keep saying wining and dining ... but in most cases this only happens after a deal is done not to get clients... thats for those who didn't know how most sales execs do it.... dunno about the rest of you in the chat but in my experience that's how we did it... and this is a avn so yes i will let it be that any one can just google and any one can do it... but there are some real life logic slipped into that between those extreme logic breaks that make us theorise and talk about it so much.. which is a major+ for me. tips hat to the dev. and to your 2nd point in a 2 company market it has no value its the profit margins that come into play. if you think that it's not they its you choice but we'll leave it at that.
i find it troubling Huctch lost the very clients Christian warned him about.
The wine & dine plan has nothing to do with convincing the clients. This wine & dine plan was Vivian's idea to persuade Christian to keep Hutch in the company Christian owns.
it has everything to do with the clients ... chrisitan is just the first they try the wine and dine strategy. and another logic break is vivian going to talk with christian and saying hutch will come and invite you to dinner is in itself never happens dunno if anyone can relate to this. vivian saying so shows that its something they are experimenting with and dunno how to execute that game plan. and chrisitan would have seen through that.
Oh and why did he lost two important clients without even knowing? Why did those clients not inform Hutch who should be their contact person?
From my pov because he's not very committed to this job. Only good for numbers but to handle clients is sth that is a little out of his reach.
we know for sure that there are only 2 competing companies in that market. hence its usually the profit margin what decides the loss and acquisition of clients. and hutch has has worked in this company for 6 years....and most companies they dont and never use long term plans so as to have a bargaining chip for improving their returns. im sorry i maybe going down the rabbit hole a bit but people comenting about managing clients is all about the numbers in a 2 company market and 2nd the head of the company's head namely chrisitan.so real world logic aside just in terms of the avn the dev just give us bare minimum info and with a health dose of porn logic. and in regards to y the clients didnt inform hutch .... its a obvious answer. or else read my comment again.
Dev told us his story will have a heavy dark end and all you guys come up with is that Hutch reaches a level of self confident out of nowhere and can cope with everything and anyone. That's just not going to happen. This story is not about Hutch!
yes he did when was referencing to the post about a render he made for his previous game or something similar. there are many ways that it can be dark from the pov of the protatgonists like in the a hutch being confident scenario its vivians dark path as she will lose it all.which she realizes after being caught and talks about it in the parking lot with christian. no directly talking and calling her husband.that in itself is dark for the husband who has known about her infedility since start.
Christian told him to shore up all of his customers, not just the two who then left.

We don't know how big the company is, just that the sales office is the original office before they expanded. It could be really big - we just don't know what service they provide. Maybe they don't need a huge office, it doesn't mean they aren't really successful (successful doesn't automatically mean physically huge).
we know christian is a manipulator player and all round ahole you think he will say i messed up and you have to wipe my ass as i made a shit of things by loosing the best clients by fucking around with their wives. we know the company has 6 offices each for different division from the game dialogue. and chrisitan also mentions moving hutch to accounting which can be a different location... this is real world logic now some companies who are mid size and above compartmentalise their operations. so having different offices for defferent roles in very effecient. and being the only 2 compience in the sector/field/area that they are in they have high profit margins to have multiple offices which inturn implies they have good accountants who in this case in hutch. hence wine and dine isnt requireed here. and the reason no one know about hutch's 10/10 wifi. and since the big accounts are lost the boss know that he can kick hutch as he can nothing more to gain from him. which maxwell might have seen more than once and jumps to that conclusion as does hutch.
Wine&dine is not for the customers/clients, it was only planed to persuade Christian.
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nope christian was the first they would try the wine and dine plan on and vivian going to talk to hutch's boss about it that it self show she didnt read the whole plan that she googled and or she has only1 or maybe no brain cells.
 

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You might be right about the 0.4. The 0.2 version was about 5k images, and then in another post he goes all that's needed is another 20k images. So, in the future, he might aim to do 0.2 jumps, and there'll be four more.

But, if that is the case, it means that we could expect to play through 6 days of content each time the game is updated. That that would be great. I love playing through that amount of content.
There are a lot of scenes without sound which is really unfortunate, for example the first scene when Hutch approaches the door and hears the groaning sound is great. But it seems that the developer has no plans to fix this scene soon, what a pity
 

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A dark heavy end is fine. Having written quite a bit myself, I believe readers, to be truly engaged, there needs to be someone or something to root for. In that scenario, I can absolutely see Hutch gaining the upper hand "eventually." After all, every person has a limit from which they rise or spiral into oblivion.

Obviously, Christian is the "evil" in the story. Vivian, while complicit, is manipulated by Christian. Christian is also manipulating Hutch (duh!), and I hope the author doesn't just leave it at surface level and have Hutch continue to be manipulated to the end. That would be WAY too shallow. I'm hoping (praying even) that we get a more complicated Hutch, one that, over time, begins to twist the circumstances to his benefit.

Christian's niece, the one who's nice to him (I believe it's his niece, I'm not sure typing this, so forgive me if I'm wrong), is a good way to start. Hutch mentioned that he's "open" to a different relationship. The word "open" is weighted in the way he brought it up out of nowhere. Now, the question is, will the game move toward "scorched earth" where Hutch destroys both Vivan and Christian? Will it end with revenge on Christian and forgiveness for Vivan? Or heaven forbid, Hutch is destroyed.

I would be disappointed if Hutch remains a cuck to the end. Shallow story, and honestly, a failed ending. It has to have some depth for Hutch to make it anywhere near believable. A dark heavy end, like I mentioned, is fine, but if it's Hutch that goes down, it will be a failed attempt at writing. If I wanted that, I would rewatch Uncut Jems. What a waste of time that movie was.
nice summary and i have to say those three endings were the ones i see as most likely happening and if its the 3rd then i will hate it. any way to read your works. ty.
 
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