VN Ren'Py My Husband's Boss [Ch.2] [SC Stories]

[TheDuke9999]

Okie dokie. Not going to argue with you if that was your takeaway. Cannot dissect the emotional Complexities at play in this KN for you. Either you get it or not. No judgements.

its all good brother . i get the inner turmoil stuff but at the end of the day , regardless of your mental state, your actions dictate your future regardless of the reason or emotion. emotions may drive us but again its all a choice.. do the right thing or do the wrong thing .. and thats why i love vivian so much cause she is the dumbest chick around and always does the wrong thing.. god i love that woman.

 

[TheDuke9999]

Although that's a bit of a shame - sometimes I would wish for a strong, detailed, forceful and articulate "defense" of Vivian beyond the notion that all is complicated (which I and others are more than willing to concede and have said so!). I would like to know more about her feelings, why she cannot or will not say no to Christian. I think about that myself, but I think the debate would profit from someone who is really convinced (though in a nuanced way) of the jusitifiability of that posiition...

 

[Sparta VI]

so in your opinion - there can by only Chris !?
then it wouldn't be an NTR story but a story about love and betrayal - yes it is possible, but SC sometimes brings us down to earth, saying that it is in a sense a completely ordinary story ntr

You've got that right. According to my definition and that of wiki, ntr can only refer to one person. I know that this is rarely practiced and seen here.

 

[link18]

so in your opinion - there can by only Chris !?
then it wouldn't be an NTR story but a story about love and betrayal - yes it is possible, but SC sometimes brings us down to earth, saying that it is in a sense a completely ordinary story ntr

If we have only Fmc's pov ONLY then yes but we have mc's too, then its a netorare type B she does not have to fuck multiple dicks for it to be ntr she just need to be stolen phisically or emotionally in this AVN its probably both

 

[packard1928]

I agree with Duke on some things . I do not think she is a smart as she thinks. She got caught by a trap by Christian. I do not think she is a whore yet. I see she is trying to use her sexy wilds to ( In her mind) Keep Hutch Job safe. By she forgets that ...it put her marriage in jeopardy... She did not think he would find out.... Not sure what she thought when she spent thenight with Christian.... that was Christians in your face Hutch.

 

[Luc77]

You've got that right. According to my definition and that of wiki, ntr can only refer to one person. I know that this is rarely practiced and seen here.

SC showed too many dicks at the start to end with just one
I am very far from considering Vivian cum-slut-all-around-whore, however, she has very busy days ahead of her, which will seriously damage her dignity.

 

[TheDuke9999]

SC showed too many dicks at the start to end with just one
I am very far from considering Vivian cum-slut-all-around-whore, however, she has very busy days ahead of her, which will seriously damage her dignity.

i agree but as far as her an hutch dignity i think that flew out the window after the boss house and woman toilet at hutchy job lol next episode she will be telling boss she loves him while hutchy listens on the phone lol .. suffer hutch feel the burn , the boss has only just began to destroy you an take your slut wife so he can use her to seal the deals on his "projects" an negotiations.. the boss is a genius.

 

[Hattyrulz]

[maybe it was after a restaurant evening that lasted into the night ]

the cigaretteman render would most probably be in update 4 and the dev titled that as climax.

eee
"to much on Vivian sex" ?
but how?
someone is fucking her in purple night - you think it's Hutch? [it's an interesting interpretation to consider]

at that moment - someone takes her from behind - or she does gymnastics

you can see the reflection of the overhead light in the eyes so she is probably handstanding or in a similar gymnastic pose.

condoms so they can get refreshed and keep going until morning .

they dont need condoms... chris says he is sniped... but maybe he wants to get vivian pregnant... who knows.

Yes, quite a lot, but if that is how you filter complexities then there’s not much I could write to disabuse you of that perception. Hey, everyone processes things differently. In my opinion - and it is an opinion - this situation and the husband and wife’s actions are not so simplistic. The emotional depth the Dev has given to the characters and their relationship - which at first seemed pretty vanilla - is what sets this KN apart for many of us. Again though, opinions may vary.

xert you are right in saying that. there are different way to react to each situation both the husband and wife react to. like a typical example would be vivian's happy reaction at the end of the code talk... it can be take as a reference to her dialogue in the bathroom scene where she says she will convince her husband to let her go. contradicting this is vivian is happy that hutch just loves her even after all that she did. and to counter this again... there is one secret she didnt tell hutch and that is the first meeting with the boss and the dress she wore for the fuckfest. until the next two updates are done and the story having no branching paths will automatically elimiate the variables for us(the readers). so for now opinions vary but going forward the option will be narrowed down by story progression.

You're going to make Hatty cream with talk like that!

you are finally seeing the light ... , that's possibly a better of the worst ending for hutch and the cigarette man theories most if not all have hutch getting revenge which is nice.

Although that's a bit of a shame - sometimes I would wish for a strong, detailed, forceful and articulate "defense" of Vivian beyond the notion that all is complicated (which I and others are more than willing to concede and have said so!). I would like to know more about her feelings, why she cannot or will not say no to Christian. I think about that myself, but I think the debate would profit from someone who is really convinced (though in a nuanced way) of the jusitifiability of that posiition...

as much as i want to defend vivian for now i only see the flaws every way you look. either its totally her fault or hutch is partially to blame. there is no scenario where she can be defended in the current update. and what's more the way she interacts with the side interests just goes against her caring personality that the dev wants to convey.(that's how i see it)
luc made a nice theory on how vivian is changing from a loving wife and mother due to christian and some of my thoughts were posted as well. when you look the full update from vivians point of view at first she is sacrifising herself for the family but later in the dinner night she is just doing it for herself as she enjoys what is going on. there are instance through out that show the change in vivian. im just stating what i think is vivian thoughts from how the dev depicts and portrays her in this update.

its all good brother . i get the inner turmoil stuff but at the end of the day , regardless of your mental state, your actions dictate your future regardless of the reason or emotion. emotions may drive us but again its all a choice.. do the right thing or do the wrong thing .. and thats why i love vivian so much cause she is the dumbest chick around and always does the wrong thing.. god i love that woman.

only one thing i have to argue with in the above quote there is no right and wrong in a relationship(if you love your spouse and its reciprocated anyone would go the extra mile to make the relationship work)... it's just their respective views. we can say that hutch opening the marriage is him viewing vivians actions as moment of weakness in their 22 year relationship. yes have to agree vivian is the dumbest fmc. can't debate that. that just makes it harder to go nuclear on her.

you got her model almost perfect... this level of detail should be enough for fan fic... any more attention to detail and your will model will look just like vivian. keep it up

 

[TheDuke9999]

the cigaretteman render would most probably be in update 4 and the dev titled that as climax.

you can see the reflection of the overhead light in the eyes so she is probably handstanding or in a similar gymnastic pose.

they dont need condoms... chris says he is sniped... but maybe he wants to get vivian pregnant... who knows.

xert you are right in saying that. there are different way to react to each situation both the husband and wife react to. like a typical example would be vivian's happy reaction at the end of the code talk... it can be take as a reference to her dialogue in the bathroom scene where she says she will convince her husband to let her go. contradicting this is vivian is happy that hutch just loves her even after all that she did. and to counter this again... there is one secret she didnt tell hutch and that is the first meeting with the boss and the dress she wore for the fuckfest. until the next two updates are done and the story having no branching paths will automatically elimiate the variables for us(the readers). so for now opinions vary but going forward the option will be narrowed down by story progression.

you are finally seeing the light ... , that's possibly a better of the worst ending for hutch and the cigarette man theories most if not all have hutch getting revenge which is nice.

as much as i want to defend vivian for now i only see the flaws every way you look. either its totally her fault or hutch is partially to blame. there is no scenario where she can be defended in the current update. and what's more the way she interacts with the side interests just goes against her caring personality that the dev wants to convey.(that's how i see it)
luc made a nice theory on how vivian is changing from a loving wife and mother due to christian and some of my thoughts were posted as well. when you look the full update from vivians point of view at first she is sacrifising herself for the family but later in the dinner night she is just doing it for herself as she enjoys what is going on. there are instance through out that show the change in vivian. im just stating what i think is vivian thoughts from how the dev depicts and portrays her in this update.

only one thing i have to argue with in the above quote there is no right and wrong in a relationship(if you love your spouse and its reciprocated anyone would go the extra mile to make the relationship work)... it's just their respective views. we can say that hutch opening the marriage is him viewing vivians actions as moment of weakness in their 22 year relationship. yes have to agree vivian is the dumbest fmc. can't debate that. that just makes it harder to go nuclear on her.

first off let me just say for the record i love that woman. vivian is perfect. if all women could be loose an dumb like vivian this world would be in such a better place. if vivian ran for president i would vote for her seriously..

 

[Hattyrulz]

first off let me just say for the record i love that woman. vivian is perfect. if all women could be loose an dumb like vivian this world would be in such a better place. if vivian ran for president i would vote for her seriously..

if all the women were like vivian the there would be as many men who are christian and hutch... and i can never accept that as its just a cause and effect or in the worlds of the matrix... causality. i for one still can't come to liking vivian just cos of personal views and reasons. and yes most would but i will not as she can be manipulated by a hypothetical christian.

If we have only Fmc's pov ONLY then yes but we have mc's too, then its a netorare type B she does not have to fuck multiple dicks for it to be ntr she just need to be stolen phisically or emotionally in this AVN its probably both

Dealbreaker there are various type of ntr as link posted. it's just the the common or overused ntr troupe is what you have described below in your post.

 

[Dealbreaker]

It's maybe less an NTR-story than a turbo-corruption story. I know, not mutually exclusive, but a more precise locataion of the narrative center of gravity. NTR in the sense of cheating would imo center more around secrecy, detection etc. Here this is not the point but the following transformation within Vivian.

 

[TheDuke9999]

if all the women were like vivian the there would be as many men who are christian and hutch... and i can never accept that as its just a cause and effect or in the worlds of the matrix... causality. i for one still can't come to liking vivian just cos of personal views and reasons. and yes most would but i will not as she can be manipulated by a hypothetical christian.

Dealbreaker there are various type of ntr as link posted. it's just the the common or overused ntr troupe is what you have described below in your post.

im curious in making this VN what do you feel the real vision is that the dev has? honestly?

 

[BlenderGuy]

I think the wife is a real woman with sexual experience who found herself an old fashioned decent man to settle down with. They've built a family and life together. The husband has become feminised by his shitty office job.

The boss recognises how hot the wife is and wants to have some fun.

She's clearly doing this more for the hubby but is prepared to be a slut when the need arises.
She enjoys sex, as all women should and is more than happy to take a huge cock.

Just so long as the husband gets to keep his shitty job, of course.

 

[TheDuke9999]

I think the wife is a real woman with sexual experience who found herself an old fashioned decent man to settle down with. They've built a family and life together. The husband has become feminised by his shitty office job.

The boss recognises how hot the wife is and wants to have some fun.

She's clearly doing this more for the hubby but is prepared to be a slut when the need arises.
She enjoys sex, as all women should and is more than happy to take a huge cock.

Just so long as the husband gets to keep his shitty job, of course.

 

[Luc77]

I'm not a fan of discussing characters' motivations - convincing anyone of my rightness.
However, the vast majority of (long-term or not so long) relationships have gone through a stage of betrayal by one of the partners. It ended differently - but there are specific studies that say that betrayal is not the main cause of divorce - but the lack of understanding between partners.
Christian also undoubtedly has a huge hold over Vivian. That happens too - it's inexplicable (biochemistry/hormones?) - but it hit her.
I don't want to analyze it.
I have a buddy who put his 20+ relationship on the edge of a knife because he let a common slut fuck him in the toilet while his wife was sitting at the table.


I prefer to play with what we have.

 

[Dealbreaker]

@Dealbreaker there are various type of ntr as link posted. it's just the the common or overused ntr troupe is what you have described below in your post.

This is irrelevant to my post. All sorts of NTR games are different in character from corruption games, and that was my point. And I don't know what you mean by "overused". I don't find cheating to be overused.

 

[Hattyrulz]

im curious in making this VN what do you feel the real vision is that the dev has? honestly?

if you are asking about the dev's thoughts and the vision for this story its too early to tell... as for the cause for making this project... he did say he was making this for himself and was sharing it... and i'll not dig further as i tend to be quite curious and which leads to gossip or unnecessary talk. and i respect this dev too much to do that.

I'm not a fan of discussing characters' motivations - convincing anyone of my rightness.
However, the vast majority of (long-term or not so long) relationships have gone through a stage of betrayal by one of the partners. It ended differently - but there are specific studies that say that betrayal is not the main cause of divorce - but the lack of understanding between partners.
Christian also undoubtedly has a huge hold over Vivian. That happens too - it's inexplicable (biochemistry/hormones?) - but it hit her.
I don't want to analyze it.
I have a buddy who put his 20+ relationship on the edge of a knife because he let a common slut fuck him in the toilet while his wife was sitting at the table.


I prefer to play with what we have.

we always appreciate the views of others if they extreme(case in point duke ). i dunno if 10 years is considered a long relationship but in my experience communication and honesty leads to trust which i joe and smoothers believe they are a must in a good relationship. as you said lack of understanding is just a basic piece of the larger puzzle which leads to cheating is what i think. christian definitely has control over vivian its clearly shown by the way vivian reacts to the first meeting. the weakness in the legs. the prolonged eye contact and flirty interactions and even going for a 2nd kiss. no denying that. thinking she can do better than her husband without understanding why hutch didn't want vivian to meet his coworkers of 6 years and especially the boss that's a flaw. and then going behind his back and liking the kiss and then accepting the dress sent by christian all have to have some sort of red flags. then again none of the happens and as duke said vivian being the dumbest fmc ever is why we have this story.

This is irrelevant to my post. All sorts of NTR games are different in character from corruption games, and that was my point. And I don't know what you mean by "overused". I don't find cheating to be overused.

as its the common ntr story where wife gets into a unusual situation and ends up having a prolonged sexual relationship with someone she doesn't like and at the end destroy her marriage and in some cases end ups with the lover. this is quite common in ntr and thats y i said the term overused. there are variation of the ntr term unlike cheating in english which covers almost all ntr variants.(excuse me if i'm wrong), the first update is basic ntr but later on maynot be a ntr story but one of corruption like you said. for now anything is possible.

 

[Luc77]

And we have 24 pictures form future.
inventory:
6 photos directly related to purple (Uber, string&ass,bobs&chocker, gimnastic, dress on chair, morning by the car)
5 photos related with transparency restaurant - Viv in Audi, in Kitchen, a farewell look, Viv in Rover, order at rest
4 photos form garden party - entrance to the party, fuck when phone, fly and tights, hold our hands (and this is the most powerful scene)
2 photos from go-go Hutch - big hall & private room
2 photos - cigarrete smoking man
2 photos - SMS play - in bed & against the wall
1 - pub girl&girl
1 - pool
1 - basket hall/boy

I forgot something?

its possible: picture SMS in bed and basket hall they combine with purple night
pool - if it occurs it will be after purple but before transparency
pub g&g is after restaurant or garden party.
only SMS against the wall I can't assign it now
smoking man - it's possible that it's Hutch or Mayor
go-go Hutch - I wonder who he went there with, because there are two glasses at the table...


these are specifics that can be discussed

there are two more photos that are not related to the game: wedd-ring od table & mercedes-fuck

 

[Hattyrulz]

only SMS against the wall I can't assign it now

the person in the background is probably sawyer at this point as hutch doesn't even want to know what vivian is upto and the way she is the sneak peeks she is most probably talking to sawyer's roommates. the other sneak peeks she is more free and not stressed. i'm not completely sure but that sounds reasonable to me.

 

[link18]

This is irrelevant to my post. All sorts of NTR games are different in character from corruption games, and that was my point. And I don't know what you mean by "overused". I don't find cheating to be overused.

The rare in NTR western AVNs is the presence of the emotional aspect. What I like in this one is that the antagonist is better in every way possible, from personality and social status to sexual desirability
Not just the simple answer that he hase a big dick
With that in mind, I won't rule out that she will fall for him in the long run, not just for the D but also for him. Whether he will do too is highly probable
that's why if she fucks others that will tarnish the love triangle unless if Christian encourages it which i wont bet my money on
cuz he will not be better than her cuck hubby
That's just my opinion