VN Ren'Py My Husband's Boss [Ch.2] [SC Stories]

[noahsombrero]

Rather here: love and psychological addiction to external recognition out of own deficits are easily confused.

Addiction to boss being the the confuser.

 

[chrispool]

Because He opened up the marriage he theoretically can't be humiliated about it unless he gets angry and everyone sees it.

I disagree on this. Opening the marriage to Christian, it's private. Only Hutch, Vivian and Christian are involved. If this "arrangement" goes public, it's totally different : he will have to face the judgement of his family, friends, colleagues, neighbours,... Public humiliation will be devastating.

 

[Luc77]

and you sorrows are still talking about the same thing ?


simple - she loves Hutch, such a permanent love, 22 years old, but she is in love with Christian who gives everything he does not have at home. The two are not mutually exclusive. And this is not about alpha beta sigma. It's simply life. She would like to have everything, but it's difficult. Someone has to let go. The question is why does Hutch let go from the beginning? - Either he's already tired of the relationship, he doesn't feel that fire anymore, or it's the guilt of the fact that because of his mistake she has muddled through the arrangement. Or additionally, Chris may be blackmailing him with something (which we don't see). Some incident at work (such as with Addison who very easily enters Hutch's immediate comfort zone or or showed how easily some footage can be leaked to the interent).

How much can we brandish about this ?

 

[Dealbreaker]

Honest question: How sensual a woman is Vivian actually? Case in point: This orgasm-counting always got on my nerves - that a guy like the boss does it, ok, it's this performance thing, it's the finalization of the sexual conquest. I understand that. But she?

 

[Chaoticjustice]

Not sure what is the set up of the garden party. You are right about Vivian. We are torn by her actions and her words at this point.. When she was talking to Sunshine ... she said it has been 2 days and she missed him... Sunshine thought she meant her Husband... Then she said Ohhh ! She understood Vivian meant Christian. I was bumed. I am pulling for Hutch.

The impression I get from her is that she has the mindset that hutch will constantly be her "safety net" eg: do what she wants cry a few tears and it will all blow over in the morning in regards to her and hutch , it's almost like she thinks she's untouchable at the moment

But I'm not convinced as hutch is definitely getting more distant with her , how she hasn't put 2 and 2 together that it's because of her actions I don't know

 

[_YD__]

I disagree on this. Opening the marriage to Christian, it's private. Only Hutch, Vivian and Christian are involved. If this "arrangement" goes public, it's totally different : he will have to face the judgement of his family, friends, colleagues, neighbours,... Public humiliation will be devastating.

sorry but no. It is true that you don't tell people unless you are confronted with it but you will not lose face if you just tell them you know and you agreed to have that kind of relationship. Do the swingers tell everybody? no, but if asked they have no problem telling the story. Do you tell what your fetishes are to everybody?

 

[chrispool]

Honest question: How sensual a woman is Vivian actually? Case in point: This orgasm-counting always got on my nerves - that a guy like the boss does it, ok, it's this performance thing, it's the finalization of the sexual conquest. I understand that. But she?

To me she has never really loved Hutch. She thinks she has (had ?), she continually tries to convince herself and the others of her love, but she loved to be considered a decent housewife, as opposition as her young self. And I doubt she really has a real sexual connection with him, reason why she has always been very conservative in the bedroom. So she is rediscovering her sexual desire for a man, reason why she is counting her orgasm like a teenager.

 

[Dealbreaker]

but you will not lose face if you just tell them you know and you agreed to have that kind of relationship

But for sure you will!

 

[chrispool]

sorry but no. It is true that you don't tell people unless you are confronted with it but you will not lose face if you just tell them you know and you agreed to have that kind of relationship. Do the swingers tell everybody? no, but if asked they have no problem telling the story. Do you tell what your fetishes are to everybody?

I hear you, but here we miss Hutch point of view of the situation. How is he coping with that ? How important to him is his reputation ? Chapter 3 will bring some answers.

 

[Chaoticjustice]

I disagree on this. Opening the marriage to Christian, it's private. Only Hutch, Vivian and Christian are involved. If this "arrangement" goes public, it's totally different : he will have to face the judgement of his family, friends, colleagues, neighbours,... Public humiliation will be devastating.

The opening of the marriage I have always seen/viewed it as a test from hutch to see if she would actually act on it or not

 

[_YD__]

But for sure you will!

seriously no you won't.

 

[chrispool]

The opening of the marriage I have always seen/viewed it as a test from hutch to see if she would actually act on it or not

Maybe. To me, he was devastated after the bathroom sex, in which Vivian has been more honest to Christian that she has never been with him, total deloyalty against him. He realized that he has never been able to sexually satisfy her, and he loved her so much that he agrees to the pass.
Again here, Hutch point of view is missing.

 

[chrispool]

seriously no you won't.

I'm with Dealbreaker here. Personally I will be humiliated and ashamed to confess something like that to friends and family.

 

[_YD__]

I'm with Dealbreaker here. Personally I will be humiliated and ashamed to confess something like that to friends and family.

ashamed maybe but not humiliated and keep in mind you are keeping things private unless you have no other option then confess. Or you tell it to a good friend that you know will not judge you.

 

[chrispool]

ashamed maybe but not humiliated.

Could you imagine your wife kissed and groped and maybe worse by another man in front of your parents ? And her saying I love you, I belong to you to him ? If that's not humiliation...

 

[GibboBtw]

and you sorrows are still talking about the same thing ?


simple - she loves Hutch, such a permanent love, 22 years old, but she is in love with Christian who gives everything he does not have at home. The two are not mutually exclusive. And this is not about alpha beta sigma. It's simply life. She would like to have everything, but it's difficult. Someone has to let go. The question is why does Hutch let go from the beginning? - Either he's already tired of the relationship, he doesn't feel that fire anymore, or it's the guilt of the fact that because of his mistake she has muddled through the arrangement. Or additionally, Chris may be blackmailing him with something (which we don't see). Some incident at work (such as with Addison who very easily enters Hutch's immediate comfort zone or or showed how easily some footage can be leaked to the interent).

How much can we brandish about this ?

I disagree, I don't think she's in love with Hutch at all, maybe I did after CH1. But her actions in CH2 do not reflect the actions of somebody in love with her husband at all. She knows what she's doing is affecting Hutch, she 100% knows. But does she ever take any action to stop herself? not for more than a minute or so. Like, the dinner "Just dinner, nothing else will happen" proceeds to come onto Christian all by her self, and then fuck him in their driveway. Then she's left alone for 3-days. Does she try and reign in what she's doing? Put her husband, whom she loves so much first? No... Goes out attempting to have a one-night stand, because she just has to know if her feelings are just for Christian. Finds out, they are in fact only for him...proceeds to then cheat anyway again. Just to make sure or some shit lmao.

But hey! after this she realises in her mind, that she actually DOES need to put some effort into her husband if she wants to retain him, and to do that she needs to reign in her bullshit somewhat. Only to then be manipulated or however the fuck you wanna call it by Christian, to go into a Hotel Room (while her husband is waiting downstairs to go out with her) and allow herself to be SAed by some fucking random old cunt...

Okay! but now that's over with, she can still go and put some effort into her love right?...

Oh wait, she shouts at him to get out, goes straight to Christian again, and proceeds to get him to make nice slow love to her...And to cap off this lovely evening, tells him straight up, "It's over, you won. I'm with you and I won't pretend I'm not anymore."

She's not in love with Hutch at all, she just wanted to feel like a loyal "decent" housewife for most of her life. She sees him as a safety net, something that she can just always run back too. That's all IMO.

I think she has now realised this as well, as of that ending. And that "you won" is her finally admitting it to herself, note the stupid ass "smiles" she does throughout that scene. She's a dumb fucking hoe who thinks she's in love, I pray that this doesn't turn out to be a VivianXChristian love story. And that we get to see something cool from my main "cuck" himself Hutch next Chapter. But I'm not holding my breath... NTR games don't really ever have the MCs do anything relevant or interesting in the story, a part from getting cucked that is.

At the very least, let me see Christian drop Vivian like a bag of rocks at some point after he's had his fun. That would at least make a little happy...

 

[_YD__]

Could you imagine your wife kissed and groped and maybe worse by another man in front of your parents ? And her saying I love you, I belong to you to him ? If that's not humiliation...

I never said in front of parents and saying that she belongs to him in public is a total no go. Lets be clear about that. then yes you are right.

 

[chrispool]

ashamed maybe but not humiliated and keep in mind you are keeping things private unless you have no other option then confess. Or you tell it to a good friend that you know will not judge you.

Not so sure. You know, everybody judges everybody...

 

[noahsombrero]

and you sorrows are still talking about the same thing ?


simple - she loves Hutch, such a permanent love, 22 years old, but she is in love with Christian who gives everything he does not have at home. The two are not mutually exclusive. And this is not about alpha beta sigma. It's simply life. She would like to have everything, but it's difficult. Someone has to let go. The question is why does Hutch let go from the beginning? - Either he's already tired of the relationship, he doesn't feel that fire anymore, or it's the guilt of the fact that because of his mistake she has muddled through the arrangement.

None of those reasons. Try to be a touch more generous in your appraisals. It might be that husband is not dominated by short sighted motivations.

Or additionally, Chris may be blackmailing him with something (which we don't see). Some incident at work (such as with Addison who very easily enters Hutch's immediate comfort zone or or showed how easily some footage can be leaked to the interent).

How much can we brandish about this ?

Sunshine told her she will not be able to have both, she has not reconciled herself to that yet, cannot bear to let husband go, keeps trying to reach out to him for love.

If she decides that she wants the fierce lover type, she needs to realize that boss is exactly the wrong guy to have that with. Very serious bad bet in the realm of prospective lovers, given the history he has admitted to.

 

[TonyMurray]

It seemed pretty clear to me, that the implication of that dialogue about missing "him" was that she was missing Christian, and not her Husband. And then you couple that with the fact, that later on that night she also confides in her, that she just knows she's going to have to give Christian Anal at some point as well, So she lets herself be talked into doing it first with them, to make it easier and test the waters for when she does give it to him. All points to her mind being 90% on Christian now.

She enjoys being his plaything, she was just coming to terms with it. And by the end of the Chapter, she has...

It's 100% clear, Vivian's expression when Sunshine says "I'm sure your husband misses you too" and then the lack of a correction when the penny drops with Sunshine saying "OOOHHH!"

I think the telling part is more the bit the next morning:

 Vivian: “~ Sigh ~ ... 'come home to each other'..."
 Vivian: “~ Softly ~ That's exactly what my husband made me promise him."
 Vivian: “But that's not possible with Christian... not any more..."

To me she has never really loved Hutch. She thinks she has (had ?), she continually tries to convince herself and the others of her love, but she loved to be considered a decent housewife, as opposition as her young self. And I doubt she really has a real sexual connection with him, reason why she has always been very conservative in the bedroom. So she is rediscovering her sexual desire for a man, reason why she is counting her orgasm like a teenager.

I think she genuinely loved Hutch, and still does. She just has conflicting love interests now, and they are like chalk and cheese in terms of her feelings towards each of them. Has Vivian been counting orgasms though, specifically? I don't think it's a case of her counting, but more that Christian counted their individual finishes and calls it six times that night, which is something that sticks in the head (he does bring it up a few times after as well).

I'm with Dealbreaker here. Personally I will be humiliated and ashamed to confess something like that to friends and family.

It would 100% be humiliating as well as shaming for most people to be in this position.