VN Ren'Py My Husband's Boss [Ch.2] [SC Stories]

[88stanford88]

My Addison Theory:

• Addison is aware that Vivian is Hutch’s wife.
• Addison either assumes or is aware that Vivan is cheating on Hutch with Christian.
• Christian is aware of Addison’s affection for Hutch.

In this AVN, Addison is my favorite character so far. I not only like her visually as best-looking female, but especially because she brings light, warmth and kindness to Hutch in his darkest moments during Chapter 1.

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What I find fascinating is how hostile Addison is towards Vivian; from the moment they meet. Vivian stumbles over which name she wants to present, but that is not a likely cause. In fact, the hostilities begin even before Vivian speaks, suggesting a pre-existing cause! Addison could legitimately assume she is a sexual conquest of Christian, but even then, not exactly a reason for hostility crossing the line into being unprofessional. Addison must not only be certain that Vivian is not a legitimate business representative or customer but also have some idea of who Vivian is and have motive to attack her so strongly. (small note in case Dev sees this: minor inconsistency in Addison’s lipstick switching from dark red to pink at the end of the conversation with Vivian).

Next, in Christian’s office, Vivian complains about Addison’s hostile reception (conversation re-capped in the first image). Christan states that not many get close to Addison and briefly looks at Hutch. The scene is clearly deliberate, implying that Christian must be aware that Addison likes Hutch which is a notable achievement. While this is not a ‘game recognizes game’ moment, Christian clearly thinks poorly of Hutch and treats him with malicious intent, but he cannot control whom Addison likes and, unlike Christian, who has snipped himself and cannot (without medical intervention) reproduce, Hutch has already achieved fatherhood and raised a college aged son.

As for Addison, as an administrator in Christian’s company, she must have access to employee files, IRS W4 tax withholding forms and supporting documents, and yes, a marriage certificate must also be on file. If she really has a crush on Hutch, it would be trivial for her to find out, and it would explain why she has pre-existing cause to be hostile to Vivian.

Vivian picks up immediately upon this vibe. She identifies Addison as a legitimate threat, and with good reason. At this point, Hutch’s loyalty is the only real defense Vivan has against Addison, a woman who far outclasses her not only in looks, youth and beauty, but perhaps even more damagingly in attraction to Hutch. That is a risky position for Vivian to be in, and she knows it. in chapter 2 she voices her fear to Hutch AND even has a nightmare in which Hutch marries Addison and Addison punches her in the face (2nd image).

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I don't like to theorize about characters who are currently secondary, especially since SC Stories has already said that the next chapter will focus more on Hutch's perspective. As you can see...

Chapter 3 and beyond
Yes, a good chunk was already rendered but there is still a lot to do. Yes, this still deals a lot more with Hutch and I'm looking forward to tackling a complicated character,

So maybe when CH3 will be ready in the winter we will know more about Addison as well.

 

[Dorothea76]

I wonder who's actually going to be the biggest loser of this AVN by the end?

As of right now, it's obviously Hutch. With the whole, his wife being a selfish lying cheating whore. And then him being made to look like an absolute cuck and a wimp on top of that. But I do wonder if it'll be Vivian by the end instead. I fucking it is. SO MUCH...

With Hutch finally getting rid of the stupid bitch. And then maybe even finding a little comfort in the arms of another, with Addison perhaps?...

Vivian also potentially losing her job as a teacher after she sleeps with a student. Which (IMO) is obviously going to happen with the Token BBC one. And then is HOPEFULLY, caught in some way afterwards. Because as far as I'm aware, teachers getting caught sleeping with their students rarely ends well. From a social ostracizing standpoint at the very least.

And then who knows, maybe even Christian will get bored of her by then, going by how he apparently does this with a lot of married women and will have found another muse at some point. It would be SOOO peak if one of these NTR games actually had the cheating party, the one who suffers the most by the end like they fucking deserve. Instead of just making it the Hutch type character as it usually is. The poor cuck who has nothing and nobody by the ending.

I pray this does not just go the way of becoming the Christian x Vivian love story...With her being the one who "tames" him...And then they fall deeply in love...

I wouldn´t be too surprised if all of them are loosers in the end
If this story will have a very dark ending like Hutch shooting Vivian and Christian while they are having sex and then kills himself, I for my part wouldn´t be disappointed.
Sure there are still three chapters missing, but at this point, how the story went so far, I would like it

 

[noahsombrero]

I wouldn´t be too surprised if all of them are loosers in the end
If this story will have a very dark ending like Hutch shooting Vivian and Christian while they are having sex and then kills himself, I for my part wouldn´t be disappointed.
Sure there are still three chapters missing, but at this point, how the story went so far, I would like it

I don't want Husband to shoot Boss because I don't want him to go to prison. I don't want Wife to die because she is a faulted human. I want her to get better. I don't want Husband to die because he has been the target of a despicable manipulator. I want him to find a way to be happy.

The stereotypical happy ending? No, but not worse than they deserve. The stereotypical bad ending? "The Silence of the Lambs"? I say, let's expect more than that of life, even if it is not offered. Sure, as recent wars around the world show destroyed cities and all, life can be deeply cruel and without mercy. That does not mean that we must expect that or hope for that. But you are right, the agonies of cancer can happen to anybody. Let's not wish that one each other though.

 

[packard1928]

I don't think she should have sex with Marcel. He is already trying to blackmail her. She will never excape that. Not sure if the plot can hold 2 people that have a lever over her. Now, I see no problems if she does the mechanic... He is just laying a path to that in payment for fixing the car. That will be the end of it. The twins.. na... They currently don't have anything to move that forward. Not to mention the dude seems to be a moron. chapter 3 is about Hutch... We know about the dinner party. We know about the purple dress. If it is to be that one of the students get more from her it is on the Cigarette' guy or of something about the preview pic of the room.... which is the purple dress.

 

[Dealbreaker]

I feel like in sunday school rather than on a porn site.

 

[noahsombrero]

I feel like in sunday school rather than on a porn site.

Yes, why are you here? Do you want to see people having sex as part of a story, rather than sex being the story? Or do you want to see people doing wrong things and then being harmed and punished for that? Harmed and punished is a niche porn. You can find that on f95, I suspect. SC has not shown us yet that is the story he intends to tell. So, my wishes are are as likely to be fulfilled as yours. And wishing good things is not necessarily what you will hear in Sunday school. Harm and punishment is a big part of Christianity if you listen to what people say who think they believe. They so often forget about redemption and forgiveness. Not that we need to even think about redemption, forgiveness or Sunday school here, but since you brought it up...

So yes, see it the other way. This is not Sunday school where kids are taught that harm and punishment is what they will deserve if they visit f95 and watch people fuck.

 

[88stanford88]

I feel like in sunday school rather than on a porn site.

For someone who has porn logic tired on his cracked brain, it is normal to think that he was back in school when the teacher threw him out because he had his porn mags under his desk

 

[88stanford88]

So, my wishes are are as likely to be fulfilled as yours.

Do you really believe this shuffle you wrote here?
Have you ever been married?
Do you know women?
Have you ever been in an ongoing relationship lasting more than 10 years?

your wishes in this story are just puerile craps

 

[noahsombrero]

Do you really believe this shuffle you wrote here?
Have you ever been married?
Do you know women?
Have you ever been in an ongoing relationship lasting more than 10 years?

your wishes in this story are just crap

I guess you have no idea what my life has been like. Why should you? Why should you assume that your life is the pattern for everybody else, or even me?

You also have no idea what SC's life has been like, so the story he brings to us very well might also not fit your pattern either. Why again are you talking about me and not the story?

 

[WhiteSwan1916]

The scene with Rebecca serves to give us a better understanding of Vivian's character, and it made me think that Vivian has a past that is not so crystal clear.
Of course, I could be wrong, but I don't think Rebecca and her husband will appear in any other scenes. This is the post where I talk about it. (I quoted myself so if you want you can easily find it and watch it with the images... as always, I don't post the sex scenes, but I quote the scenes that contain the characters' facial expressions.)


I think Viv is hiding something from herself too... and it is realistic... I know women... It often happens that women want to forget their past as high school and college students.

Thanks for your responses and link to your prior post which was an interesting read.

The way how I interpret Vivian's motivations right now is that she has had a wild post, partied and enjoyed single life so to speak, and often went for bad boys and dark triad types, only then to later settle for a stable husband to have a family. Not that it was (or still is) a terrible marriage, far from it, but it lacks genuine desire on her part. Sex is transactional and a reward given to Hutch, and Vivian is shocked when Hutch is so hurt that he refuses a 'treat' at the end of Chapter 1. A moment that shocked Vivan to the core, her primary agency became worthless overnight, a beloved dog denying an A5 Wagyu steak offered by its master.

The conversation with Rebecca in the bar underlines this dynamic. I don't remember her exact words, but paraphrasing Rebecca it was something like it being a woman's curse to be attracted to dominant guys who are not good for longterm relationships. Rebecca's words and Vivian's actions reminded me of the Dual Mating Hypothesis: One set of guys for short term benefits, sexual gratification, good genes for better chances of the offspring in prehistoric terms, versus a stable long-term provider who treats her right. Vivan has chosen (wisely) Hutch as a husband for raising a family and was happy for a long time and still clings to the stability of that marriage, but she settled. She was never crazy with desire for Hutch at any point. Making him wait, being able to leverage her sexuality, hiding her prior experiences, doing much less with him than with prior lovers, etc.

Christian succeeded in re-awakening her old desires for a more 'alpha guy'. Vivian cannot stop herself even while she is regretting the damage she knows is causing to her marriage. She may be reluctant, but never enough to not indulge into her long dormant passions.

Rebecca's solution to this problem is different: She is going full swingers, but in the end, Rebecca is solving for the same problem of having needs than one (type of) man cannot address all by himself. She is more open and upfront about it, and her warning to Vivian in the next morning is foreshadowing (again paraphrasing 'Brian and I took a year between talking and the first threesome, you jumped into the deep right away', with the intended meaning that Vivian could lose her husband).

Coming back to my favorite side character Addison, she seems different from Vivian and Rebecca, not afflicted by the same 'curse' as Rebecca put it. Clearly Addison is interested in Hutch and she does not seem bothered by him being more of a stable, less aggressive kind of man. I can only speculate why, maybe she is so repulsed by the cocky men at work that push for asking her out in such a way that Hutch is refreshingly different, maybe she resents her uncle's lifestyle, whatever it is, it seems she could be content with Hutch as he is. This makes her a serious threat to Vivian, as reflected in Vivian's nightmare and her questioning Hutch's potential interest into Addison to ascertain the level of danger she might be in.

I may have been initially overwhelmed by the raw intensity of how brutal and crushing the story was in Chapter 1 when we focused on Hutch's point of view, but I must say that this level of quality in writing, with plausible motivations, is really enjoyable. Chapter 3 will likely be harder to stomach again going back to Hutch, but I hope that Addison can sweeten the reader experience again. I will definitively stay tuned.

 

[Dealbreaker]

Thanks for your responses and link to your prior post which was an interesting read.

The way how I interpret Vivian's motivations right now is that she has had a wild post, partied and enjoyed single life so to speak, and often went for bad boys and dark triad types, only then to later settle for a stable husband to have a family. Not that it was (or still is) a terrible marriage, far from it, but it lacks genuine desire on her part. Sex is transactional and a reward given to Hutch, and Vivian is shocked when Hutch is so hurt that he refuses a 'treat' at the end of Chapter 1. A moment that shocked Vivan to the core, her primary agency became worthless overnight, a beloved dog denying an A5 Wagyu steak offered by its master.

The conversation with Rebecca in the bar underlines this dynamic. I don't remember her exact words, but paraphrasing Rebecca it was something like it being a woman's curse to be attracted to dominant guys who are not good for longterm relationships. Rebecca's words and Vivian's actions reminded me of the Dual Mating Hypothesis: One set of guys for short term benefits, sexual gratification, good genes for better chances of the offspring in prehistoric terms, versus a stable long-term provider who treats her right. Vivan has chosen (wisely) Hutch as a husband for raising a family and was happy for a long time and still clings to the stability of that marriage, but she settled. She was never crazy with desire for Hutch at any point. Making him wait, being able to leverage her sexuality, hiding her prior experiences, doing much less with him than with prior lovers, etc.

Christian succeeded in re-awakening her old desires for a more 'alpha guy'. Vivian cannot stop herself even while she is regretting the damage she knows is causing to her marriage. She may be reluctant, but never enough to not indulge into her long dormant passions.

Rebecca's solution to this problem is different: She is going full swingers, but in the end, Rebecca is solving for the same problem of having needs than one (type of) man cannot address all by himself. She is more open and upfront about it, and her warning to Vivian in the next morning is foreshadowing (again paraphrasing 'Brian and I took a year between talking and the first threesome, you jumped into the deep right away', with the intended meaning that Vivian could lose her husband).

Coming back to my favorite side character Addison, she seems different from Vivian and Rebecca, not afflicted by the same 'curse' as Rebecca put it. Clearly Addison is interested in Hutch and she does not seem bothered by him being more of a stable, less aggressive kind of man. I can only speculate why, maybe she is so repulsed by the cocky men at work that push for asking her out in such a way that Hutch is refreshingly different, maybe she resents her uncle's lifestyle, whatever it is, she seems to would be content with Hutch. This makes her a serious threat to Vivian, as reflected in Vivian's nightmare and her questioning Hutch's potential interest into Addison to ascertain the level of danger she might be in.

I may have been initially overwhelmed by the raw intensity of how brutal and crushing the story was in Chapter 1 when we focused on Hutch's point of view, but I must say that this level of quality in writing, with plausible motivations, is really enjoyable. Chapter 3 will likely be harder to stomach again going back to Hutch, but I hope that Addison can sweeten the reader experience again. I will definitively stay tuned.

This is mixing a lot of "Red pill"-talking points with the wrong conclusions, namely male capitulation and catering to female mating strategies.

 

[WhiteSwan1916]

This is mixing a lot of "Red pill"-talking points with the wrong conclusions, namely male capitulation and catering to female mating strategies.

I don't recall ever endorsing Vivian's behavior. If this was real life, Hutch would be better off leaving Vivian. He doesn't need to fear child support with his kid is already in college, just losing the house and a good chunk of his retirement, likely lifelong alimony, but that would be worth it for regaining self-respect. His long-term prospects are objectively better than Vivian's. He does not need to fear aging nearly as much as Vivian already does. In the story he might have a real shot with Addison, although it would probably be a bad idea to stay in any way connected to a guy like Christian.

What I do think however is that the story does touch on some real-life dating dilemmas. In an exaggerated fashion, yes, but women valuing men for different things (provisioning & protection versus physical attraction), that is a real thing. It is probably the very root cause of low birth rates considering that women don't need provisioning and protection anymore (for now). But that would go into politics which I'd rather not discuss on a Pr0n forum. Let's just say it is great to see that subject in an AVN.

 

[noahsombrero]

She was never crazy with desire for Hutch at any point. Making him wait, being able to leverage her sexuality, hiding her prior experiences, doing much less with him than with prior lovers, etc.

I think that conflicts with her statement that she cannot bear to think of Husband having sex with another woman. If she thought him so unsatisfying, why would she mind if he fucks somebody else? If he were her security blanket, all she would care about is that he comes home after the fuck.

This is mixing a lot of "Red pill"-talking points with the wrong conclusions, namely male capitulation and catering to female mating strategies.

There is a lot to be said about female mating strategies, which have come to us down the eons from when a strong even abusive man was more likely to be able to bring children to adulthood, given what it took to feed them and defend them from marauders in those times. The fact that those times are long gone have nothing to do with what we now find in our genetic memory.

Feminists have been known to acknowledge that they find themselves fucking exactly the kind of guy they profess to hate.

Regardless, none of that has anything to do with where SC is taking this game. I posit that he has nothing to say about modern feminism or earlier kinds. It feels to me like his topic is how humans deal with the conflicts they find inside themselves. Which might actually have origin in those ancient mating strategies, but that is beside the point, I suspect. SC has yet to make that clear for us.

 

[WhiteSwan1916]

I think that conflicts with her statement that she cannot bear to think of Husband having sex with another woman. If she thought him so unsatisfying, why would she mind if he fucks somebody else? If he were her security blanket, all she would care about is that he comes home after the fuck.

I think that is because Vivian fears losing Hutch as a husband, not as a lover. Her nightmare shows Hutch and Addison in wedding attire, Hutch and Addison banishing Vivian from her very home. It does not show Hutch and Addison having sex.

 

[noahsombrero]

I think that is because Vivian fears losing Hutch as a husband, not as a lover. Her nightmare shows Hutch and Addison in wedding attire, Hutch and Addison banishing her from her very home. It does not show Hutch and Addison having sex.

After 22 years, I suspect she knows that she has little to fear in that regard. And in face of her manifest betrayal, he still hangs on. No, she has no reason to fear him having sex with another woman if she thought him inadequate.

But I do think you put your finger on the reason why she is so attracted to Boss. If it is the ancient pattern, it is not the sex, but it is the likelihood that he will be able to bring children to adulthood, whether she imagines having more, can even physically have more at this point. Instinct cares nothing about current conditions, is completely irrational when confronted with current reality. There was a time, when the persistence of the human line depended on those old ancient patterns, and so the eons favored them in the human genome.

 

[Adhdclassic]

Personally just my opinion. Vivian is at the stage of cake and eat it too. She wants the excitement of Christian and the freedom of freedom and still wants the stability of being in a loving marriage. Sad to say that is routed in reality but it is unattainable. Unless Hutch embraces Cucklife (sorry Tupac) it will not work. The marriage is already broken like a vase Hutch wants to put it together but every time he picks up a piece Vivian not Christian slaps it out his hand. As the viewer we just have to see if she will help pick up the pieces or will he get the broom and dustpan.

 

[Dealbreaker]

I don't recall ever endorsing Vivian's behavior. If this was real life, Hutch would be better off leaving Vivian. He doesn't need to fear child support with his kid is already in college, just losing the house and a good chunk of his retirement, likely lifelong alimony, but that would be worth it for regaining self-respect. His long-term prospects are objectively better than Vivian's. He does not need to fear aging nearly as much as Vivian already does. In the story he might have a real shot with Addison, although it would probably be a bad idea to stay in any way connected to a guy like Christian.

What I do think however is that the story does touch on some real-life dating dilemmas. In an exaggerated fashion, yes, but women valuing men for different things (provisioning & protection versus physical attraction), that is a real thing. It is probably the very root cause of low birth rates considering that women don't need provisioning and protection anymore (for now). But that would go into politics which I'd rather not discuss in a Pr0n forum. Let's just say it is great to see that subject in an AVN.

Alright. What we have here is in ch 1 that Vivian BEHAVES AS IF she needs both types, beta provider and now the alpha fucks in the boss. While it is admittedly tempting to interpret her that way, I would already see that as conceding too much. I don't think that she really has unfulfilled sexual desires, that she has really "settled" (that already is degrading language about Hutch) with her marriage (she is not that much more attractive than her husband) - rather the situation right now is a result of very bad subjective mistakes and neuroses and crises in her, not long-term instincts or needs. Wanting to keep Hutch is just laziness and comfort. In ch 2 now we get in the Sunshine conversion indeed AN INTERPRETATION OF HER BEHAVIOR which legitimizes it by claiming exactly that: that she needs that (like "every woman"), that Hutch couldn't give it to her etc. That's one of the reasons I don't like that episode - it ideologises the story by giving us that ex post-explanation, which is not meant critically (like in red pill) but legitmizes female behavior like this, so it has the function of an ideology.
So I would think it the wrong advise to Hutch or any man to adapt to those "needs" or generally at all to take female needs as starting points of their own mating strategy and self-evaluation. As you said - Allison could possibly be "content" with Hutch - not exactly burning desire anyway, is it?
That doesn't mean that I don't see the general societal relevance of what you (and the red pill) say, but we should be cautious with its application lest it fires back.

 

[noahsombrero]

Personally just my opinion. Vivian is at the stage of cake and eat it too. She wants the excitement of Christian and the freedom of freedom and still wants the stability of being in a loving marriage. Sad to say that is routed in reality but it is unattainable. Unless Hutch embraces Cucklife (sorry Tupac) it will not work. The marriage is already broken like a vase Hutch wants to put it together but every time he picks up a piece Vivian not Christian slaps it out his hand. As the viewer we just have to see if she will help pick up the pieces or will he get the broom and dustpan.

Yes, except that she feels the conflict of her desires in herself. If she cannot make sense of what she does, she is the one who will pay the price, not Husband. cake and eat it too, children learn early that they cannot have both, and usually choose eat. Wife has not chosen to eat yet, but she must. The conflict in herself will insist. She is not a simple child anymore.

 

[noahsombrero]

Alright. What we have here is in ch 1 that Vivian BEHAVES AS IF she needs both types, beta provider and now the alpha fucks in the boss. While it is admittedly tempting to interpret her that way, I would already see that as conceding too much. I don't think that she really has unfulfilled sexual desires, that she has really "settled" (that already is degrading language about Hutch) with her marriage (she is not that much more attractive than her husband) - rather the situation right now is a result of very bad subjective mistakes and neuroses and crises in her, not long-term instincts or needs.

A distinction without a difference, I think. Yes neuroses, absolutely. Mistakes very big mistakes. Intelligence is a measure of being able to change behavior based on outcomes. She has a masters degree. She does have that power.

Wanting to keep Hutch is just laziness and comfort.

You right here, mostly unsay your understanding of the situation you started out with above. It is not neuroses and mistakes, it is just laziness, and desire for comfort on her part.

 

[GibboBtw]

Personally just my opinion. Vivian is at the stage of cake and eat it too. She wants the excitement of Christian and the freedom of freedom and still wants the stability of being in a loving marriage. Sad to say that is routed in reality but it is unattainable. Unless Hutch embraces Cucklife (sorry Tupac) it will not work. The marriage is already broken like a vase Hutch wants to put it together but every time he picks up a piece Vivian not Christian slaps it out his hand. As the viewer we just have to see if she will help pick up the pieces or will he get the broom and dustpan.

Exactly this honestly. And I'm praying that my little boi Hutchy doesn't try and pick up any fucking pieces. She's a disloyal hoe that has dug her own grave and is never gonna learn. Just MOVE ON man, you have prospects and he'll be fine. Have some fucking self respect, and drop her you fucking eggroll...