VN Ren'Py My Husband's Boss [Ch.2] [SC Stories]

[TonyMurray]

I don't think she should have sex with Marcel. He is already trying to blackmail her. She will never excape that. Not sure if the plot can hold 2 people that have a lever over her. Now, I see no problems if she does the mechanic... He is just laying a path to that in payment for fixing the car. That will be the end of it. The twins.. na... They currently don't have anything to move that forward. Not to mention the dude seems to be a moron. chapter 3 is about Hutch... We know about the dinner party. We know about the purple dress. If it is to be that one of the students get more from her it is on the Cigarette' guy or of something about the preview pic of the room.... which is the purple dress.

Marcel and the mechanic are both "porn logic" conquests if they happen. Without porn logic, there is no need for them to happen because neither man has anything over Vivian. The mechanic isn't owed payment because Rupert did the work himself, stripping the part and cleaning it up rather than getting a new part. He and the mechanic both confirmed that it was all sorted and no payment was required and it was only Vivian's insistance that the mechanic himself was owed something that got him to change his mind and say that he would settle for "a ride".

Marcel doesn't have anything to blackmail Vivian with because all he has is his word and his assumptions (even if they may be mostly right) about what Vivian had been doing when they met that morning. He can't prove anything, and even if he could prove that he gave Vivian a lift and what she was wearing, it means nothing and all she has to do is repeat her initial story of "girls night out, slept on my friend's sofa".

In both instances, Vivian has put herself in a position where she may feel they hold something over her, but in both instances, it is something completely of her making. All she has to do is not return to the garage to see the mechanic (or give him some money for Rupert's use of the workshop, now she has her big pay check from Christian), and reject any attempted blackmail from Marcel. That's where the porn logic comes in though, as what would happen in the real world isn't what we get in games.

 

[xert13]

I think that is because Vivian fears losing Hutch as a husband, not as a lover. Her nightmare shows Hutch and Addison in wedding attire, Hutch and Addison banishing Vivian from her very home. It does not show Hutch and Addison having sex.

I thought that dream sequence really clever by the Dev. It was as if he either anticipated some of the reader’s potential conclusions or wanted to eliminate that possibility many championed on this forum. I think we can say that outcome will NOT happen.

 

[packard1928]

I think that is because Vivian fears losing Hutch as a husband, not as a lover. Her nightmare shows Hutch and Addison in wedding attire, Hutch and Addison banishing Vivian from her very home. It does not show Hutch and Addison having sex.

interesting point....

 

[WhiteSwan1916]

I thought that dream sequence really clever by the Dev. It was as if he either anticipated some of the reader’s potential conclusions or wanted to eliminate that possibility many championed on this forum. I think we can say that outcome will NOT happen.

guilty as charged

 

[TonyMurray]

I thought that dream sequence really clever by the Dev. It was as if he either anticipated some of the reader’s potential conclusions or wanted to eliminate that possibility many championed on this forum. I think we can say that outcome will NOT happen.

Missed opportunity for dev to have released some of the dream sequence renders as previews, just to fuck with people.

 

[xert13]

Marcel and the mechanic are both "porn logic" conquests if they happen. Without porn logic, there is no need for them to happen because neither man has anything over Vivian. The mechanic isn't owed payment because Rupert did the work himself, stripping the part and cleaning it up rather than getting a new part. He and the mechanic both confirmed that it was all sorted and no payment was required and it was only Vivian's insistance that the mechanic himself was owed something that got him to change his mind and say that he would settle for "a ride".

Marcel doesn't have anything to blackmail Vivian with because all he has is his word and his assumptions (even if they may be mostly right) about what Vivian had been doing when they met that morning. He can't prove anything, and even if he could prove that he gave Vivian a lift and what she was wearing, it means nothing and all she has to do is repeat her initial story of "girls night out, slept on my friend's sofa".

In both instances, Vivian has put herself in a position where she may feel they hold something over her, but in both instances, it is something completely of her making. All she has to do is not return to the garage to see the mechanic (or give him some money for Rupert's use of the workshop, now she has her big pay check from Christian), and reject any attempted blackmail from Marcel. That's where the porn logic comes in though, as what would happen in the real world isn't what we get in games.

Possibly or it could demonstrate how far down the rabbit hole she goes. If you go on the assumption that Vivian was a “naughty” girl in the past with a submissive kink you can explain Marcel and the Mechanic. Her true nature has been reborn and nurtured by Christian. Like many middle aged people she has carefully constructed a persona molded by society and how she “should” behave given her age. That has been stripped away. What has been interesting to read is her inner conflict as this carefully crafted image of herself gets peeled away. I do not think she is a victim in the general sense. She is a victim of her true self - the part of her she has buried. She knows what is good for her, what the right and “correct” thing to do is…she now just can’t help herself. In this present state she can still love Hutch while simultaneously betray him. Portraying the complexity of the human condition is where this VN truly shines.

Some take great pains to oversimplify the characters here (not you poster.) Viv-whore, Hutch-simp. Me Tarzan, You Jane. That speaks more to their sense of self and world perception. That’s fair. In literature courses you could always spot the same crew in class discussions. It was easier to distill the motivations of characters into understandable boxes. It makes sense that way. Again, fair enough. Probably a better way to engage in an increasingly complex world. Gotta be less stressful. I am jealous. Yet, some of us simply can’t define Willy Loman as a loser/beta and be done with it.

 

[Adhdclassic]

The mechanic is just porn he makes no impact in the story. The only way he would have any impact in the story is if he is related to Marcel. Other than that if you never see him again its not a loss to the story. Marcel is another character who really doesn't make sense to me he can't blackmail her he doesn't anything. Her open marriage gives her a form of get out of jail free card. Anything that happens outside of the title to me is just pornfare.

 

[noahsombrero]

Some take great pains to oversimplify the characters here (not you poster.) Viv-whore, Hutch-simp. Me Tarzan, You Jane. That speaks more to their sense of self and world perception. That’s fair. In literature courses you could always spot the same crew in class discussions. It was easier to distill the motivations of characters into understandable boxes. It makes sense that way. Again, fair enough. Probably a better way to engage in an increasingly complex world. Gotta be less stressful. I am jealous. Yet, some of us simply can’t define Willy Loman as a loser/beta and be done with it

Excellent point.

 

[packard1928]

The mechanic is just porn he makes no impact in the story. The only way he would have any impact in the story is if he is related to Marcel. Other than that if you never see him again its not a loss to the story. Marcel is another character who really doesn't make sense to me he can't blackmail her he doesn't anything. Her open marriage gives her a form of get out of jail free card. Anything that happens outside of the title to me is just pornfare.

I agree. but the dev said all the current characters will stay in the game somehow... I am not sure about the twins and poss mechanic scoring with Vivian. Marcell right now is the only one that may have an edge... that is blackmail. just some thoughts...

 

[neronwtf]

The only way he would have any impact in the story is if he is related to Marcel

The dev said that the mechanic scene "ties in with another, unrelated, scene that examines her mindset further.", which if I understood correctly would take place in the last update.
And IIRC didn't he said something in the line that the he won't necessarily be the BBC token? but I probably messing up.

er open marriage gives her a form of get out of jail free card

Always related to Christian's work. In this case she was outside this situation, even if her student doesn't know this.

Even if agree with both you and Tony Murray and it will be pure porn cliché. Same or even more for the twins.

 

[GibboBtw]

I thought that dream sequence really clever by the Dev. It was as if he either anticipated some of the reader’s potential conclusions or wanted to eliminate that possibility many championed on this forum. I think we can say that outcome will NOT happen.

Don't you dare try and ruin my dreams of seeing Vivian getting punched in the face by Addison...

 

[TonyMurray]

Always related to Christian's work. In this case she was outside this situation, even if her student doesn't know this.

Because of the way it was/wasn't discussed, the open marriage relating only to Vivian's work with Christian isn't necessarily the case. Some see it differently, but the way I always saw it was that Hutch intended it to refer to Christian, but Vivian took it not to have such boundaries. She speaks of it as "he opened our marriage" as opposed to "he has given me the green light to continue having sex with Christian as part of our 'work meetings'". As far as Vivian understands it (to my mind) she was okay to have her evening with Sunshine and Rain because Hutch had opened the marriage, so it wasn't "outside this situation".

 

[neronwtf]

She speaks of it as "he opened our marriage" as opposed to "he has given me the green light to continue having sex with Christian as part of our 'work meetings'"

You're quoting Sunshine dialogue at the bar? If it is, I think it was just a way of expressing the idea. Otherwise she won't be so conflicted about it. IIRC, in the same scene, didn't she saying something on the line: here I am, seeking to be seduced and cheating on my husband again?

If my memory serves me well, at the end of the first update, when they're talking, I thought it was clear for both that it was only with Christian "missions" and this when she said that she will be always returning home at night, that has sparked a great deal of discussion in here.

 

[noahsombrero]

Because of the way it was/wasn't discussed, the open marriage relating only to Vivian's work with Christian isn't necessarily the case. Some see it differently, but the way I always saw it was that Hutch intended it to refer to Christian, but Vivian took it not to have such boundaries. She speaks of it as "he opened our marriage" as opposed to "he has given me the green light to continue having sex with Christian as part of our 'work meetings'". As far as Vivian understands it (to my mind) she was okay to have her evening with Sunshine and Rain because Hutch had opened the marriage, so it wasn't "outside this situation".

You could also say, it really doesn't matter what Husband meant, she was already fucking Boss, which would suggest that she would also be ok with fucking sunshine/rain without of his permission. Regardless, neither has she embarked on sluttery. I suspect she is relieved a little to hear that it is ok to fuck Boss, which she intends to do in any case.

 

[TonyMurray]

You're quoting Sunshine dialogue at the bar? If it is, I think it was just a way of expressing the idea. Otherwise she won't be so conflicted about it. IIRC, in the same scene, didn't she saying something on the line: here I am, seeking to be seduced and cheating on my husband again?

If my memory serves me well, at the end of the first update, when they're talking, I thought it was clear for both that it was only with Christian "missions" and this when she said that she will be always returning home at night, that has sparked a great deal of discussion in here.

She talks about it a couple of times. Right after Hutch says it, her immediate thought is "Did he just... open our marriage?" and then she mentions it to Christian as well as to Sunshine. The point of the conversation at the end of Ch1 is that they were "talking code", which naturally opens them up for misunderstanding and miscommunication. The "always coming home" part wouldn't change if the marriage was opened "wide" or "narrow".

 

[Adhdclassic]

Open Marriage or not. Vivian wouldn't have stopped with Christian period. She has a delusional personality she believes she is in control and as long as she has that mindset, she would never have given up Christian.

 

[neronwtf]

She talks about it a couple of times. Right after Hutch says it, her immediate thought is "Did he just... open our marriage?" and then she mentions it to Christian as well as to Sunshine. The point of the conversation at the end of Ch1 is that they were "talking code", which naturally opens them up for misunderstanding and miscommunication. The "always coming home" part wouldn't change if the marriage was opened "wide" or "narrow".

Oh, ok. I always thought that Hutch give her "free pass" only to things related to Christian and it was clear for both. That's why she said that she will be always returning, as I way to "compensate" this. It's weird, though, why she feels very bad when she goes to the bar then? When I played the update, I thought it was because she was breaking the "agreement".

 

[noahsombrero]

Open Marriage or not. Vivian wouldn't have stopped with Christian period. She has a delusional personality she believes she is in control and as long as she has that mindset, she would never have given up Christian.

Or given up Husband. She will have to meet an immovable object to be forced to do one or the other.

 

[dylan93]

Possibly or it could demonstrate how far down the rabbit hole she goes. If you go on the assumption that Vivian was a “naughty” girl in the past with a submissive kink you can explain Marcel and the Mechanic. Her true nature has been reborn and nurtured by Christian. Like many middle aged people she has carefully constructed a persona molded by society and how she “should” behave given her age. That has been stripped away. What has been interesting to read is her inner conflict as this carefully crafted image of herself gets peeled away. I do not think she is a victim in the general sense. She is a victim of her true self - the part of her she has buried. She knows what is good for her, what the right and “correct” thing to do is…she now just can’t help herself. In this present state she can still love Hutch while simultaneously betray him. Portraying the complexity of the human condition is where this VN truly shines.

Some take great pains to oversimplify the characters here (not you poster.) Viv-whore, Hutch-simp. Me Tarzan, You Jane. That speaks more to their sense of self and world perception. That’s fair. In literature courses you could always spot the same crew in class discussions. It was easier to distill the motivations of characters into understandable boxes. It makes sense that way. Again, fair enough. Probably a better way to engage in an increasingly complex world. Gotta be less stressful. I am jealous. Yet, some of us simply can’t define Willy Loman as a loser/beta and be done with it.

You can't claim to love someone and openly and so publicly cheat on them at the same time and you can't psychologically justify it, no matter how you ( anyone tries). If a woman goes that far ( as Vivians character is doing with Hutch), it's because she never loved or respected him in the first place, she hates hutch, she settled for him as the safe option ( as alot women marry their 2nd and 3rd choice men and secretly spend the duration of their marriage hating them) then along comes her ideal man in the form of toxic Christian and all the drama that he brings, which is the type of validation cocain that a toxic woman like Vivian needs to feel alive and wanted

Cheating is a simple choice of either yes or no and Vivian chose yes for all the self-serving, self-interested, entitled slag that she is

 

[dylan93]

Open Marriage or not. Vivian wouldn't have stopped with Christian period. She has a delusional personality she believes she is in control and as long as she has that mindset, she would never have given up Christian.

"I Can Change Him" - The toxic mindset of drama queen with DPD delusional personality disorder